Sternberger

[PackinMSP]

Any news on him?
.what are the odds he plays this year?


Would like to see if he can match the Kelce comparison hype

 

[elcid]

Matching the hype is gonna be difficult (for reasons I am not going to delve into right now ), but I'd love to see him out there as well this year. I feel like it's going to be a lost season for him though. Better to evaluate him next year

 

[Poppa San]

He was brought back from IR so he can practice [stupid rule]. I expect him to get some garbage time play later in the season after the 1st round bye is clinched.

 

[greengold]

Well, considering they only have the 2 designations to return from IR, and they used one of them on Sternberger, I would imagine the kid is going to be playing a lot. Why would they waste that?

I think he is going to make some very big plays for us down the stretch. Just a feeling I've had since we drafted him, knowing fully rookie TEs don't normally produce straight out of the gate. Seriously, I've envisioned him making clutch plays for us from the moment we drafted him, and I've considered him as much a draft day steal as Savage, Jenkins, Keke... Summers... we'll see.

He's wearing the 87... he's got great hands - best in his draft class at TE (better than Hock, Fant, Smith, etc), runs great routes, is actually quite a good blocker too - not so much in-line, but in the open field, especially on run plays. All the stuff Rodgers loves in one of his receivers. Maybe he winds up becoming a bigger part of the offense than we might have thought.

Sternberger is versatile too. Lines up outside, in the slot, in-line and out of the backfield. He's got better quicks than his 4.75 timed 40, smooth in his routes, gets necessary separation. Monster catch radius. Great YAC. Elusive after the catch... he's really solid running with the ball. He played in a pro-style offense at Texas A&M, which should help him moving forward.

I think he will become a big part of this offense, eventually - maybe not straight away but through a steady incremental increase in reps, and may preclude any other WR additions via trade. Just my take on him.

Did I mention he's wearing the 87?

 

[Dantés]

He will play. But don't expect much. Tight end is a notoriously slow developing position.

 

[PackinMSP]

we've needed a guy like him for years... frankly all throughout AR's career.

Finley was great but he still had a lot of drops.

I always wondered if we had like a Kelce/Olsen/Graham(when he was younger) type of TE with AR/Favre

 

[PackinMSP]

He will play. But don't expect much. Tight end is a notoriously slow developing position.

not necessarily.

All of the REALLY, REALLY good ones. Kelce, Gronk, Olsen, Rudolph, etc were all contributing and producing VERY WELL by their 2nd years if not their 1st

 

[Dantés]

Sternberger isn't an athlete on the level of those other guys.

 

[Dantés]

not necessarily.

All of the REALLY, REALLY good ones. Kelce, Gronk, Olsen, Rudolph, etc were all contributing and producing VERY WELL by their 2nd years if not their 1st

Not necessarily, but typically. Especially considering that Sternberger, as a prospect, is not on the level of those other guys.

 

[PackinMSP]

Not necessarily, but typically. Especially considering that Sternberger, as a prospect, is not on the level of those other guys.

Kelce and Graham were both 3rd round picks.

Gronk was a 2nd round pick...

Sternberger was a 3rd...

 

[Dantés]

Kelce and Graham were both 3rd round picks.

Gronk was a 2nd round pick...

Sternberger was a 3rd...

Yes... and I could give you a gigantic list of 2nd and 3rd round tight ends who took time or who never panned out at all.

To pluck the exceptions, all of whom were better athletes and prospects than Sternberger, and then use that to form expectations makes no sense.

Gronk went 2nd Rd because of concerns over his back. Kelce went 3rd over character concerns. Graham went 3rd because he barely played in college.

 

[GleefulGary]

Any news on him?
.what are the odds he plays this year?


Would like to see if he can match the Kelce comparison hype

Odds are that he's not going to match the comparison to a top 3 TE.

 

[Dantés]

This is like saying that Ka'dar Hollman is bound to be a stud corner sooner rather than later because Jason McCourty was a 6th rounder...

 

[PackinMSP]

Yes... and I could give you a gigantic list of 2nd and 3rd round tight ends who took time or who never panned out at all.

To pluck the exceptions, all of whom were better athletes and prospects than Sternberger, and then use that to form expectations makes no sense.

Gronk went 2nd Rd because of concerns over his back. Kelce went 3rd over character concerns. Graham went 3rd because he barely played in college.

cool story bro

 

[Mondio]

and this guy thinks he serves a vital function to society LOL

 

[HardRightEdge]

He missed time in camp, he missed the first 3 preseason games, he's missed 6 weeks of in-season practice, and he was a developmental guy to begin with, an oversized WR who needed to add strength. The plus in his college scouting reports was his route running which could get him some snaps before the year is out. Any contribution should be viewed as a bonus.

 

[GleefulGary]

He missed time in camp, he missed the first 3 preseason games, he's missed 6 weeks of in-season practice, and he was a developmental guy to begin with, an oversized WR who needed to add strength. The plus in his college scouting reports was his route running which could get him some snaps before the year is out. Any contribution should be viewed as a bonus.

It's almost like playing in the NFL is really hard, and some people/positions need more time to develop even in ideal situations. And this is less than ideal!

Just for perspective:

TJ Hockenson: 18/219/2

Noah Fant: 15/159/1

Hock was the most complete TE in the draft. He's better in every facet of the game compared to Sternberger. He's starting. He's been healthy, played all of camp, pre-season, etc. Plays with a good QB. And still, 18 catches.

Don't expect a lot from rookie TE's, especially ones who have missed a lot of time. He still has 3 veterans ahead of him on the depth chart. Any kind of contribution will be a pleasant surprise.

 

[sschind]

IF the Packers expect Sternberger to do much next year it is very important for him to get some game action this season. He is already playing catch up with the time lost and not playing at all this year would set him back even further. Half a year is better than none when it comes to development and I think that is a big reason they brought him back. Also, if you drafted a guy expecting him to be available all season why not bring him back if he is available for only half. You don't spend a 3rd rounder on a pick without without expecting him to contribute sooner rather than later (maybe not so much in year 1 but by year two)

Since they only have 2 designations it is somewhat of a gamble to use one on Jace but with any new injured players would need to miss 8 weeks before they can come back it makes sense to take the gamble. I don't know how much he will be able to contribute but he will get his feet wet and that is very important.

 

[mradtke66]

Well, considering they only have the 2 designations to return from IR, and they used one of them on Sternberger, I would imagine the kid is going to be playing a lot. Why would they waste that?

Quite simply--how else from IR is available to return?

He's a draft pick and you want him practicing and hopefully playing. At this time, who is on IR that is eligible to return? And that you'd want to return. Spriggs? Raven Greene? I though Spriggs went on IR before making the 53 and Greene likely won't be healthy.

For everyone else, we're in week 8. At some point, there isn't enough time for a player to go onto IR before they have a chance to return from it.

In short, excluding post-season, anyone we put on IR this year going forward won't be able to come back.

They're bringing him back to get value out of the designated to return slots. If they don't, they might use them on anyone.

 

[OldSchool101]

I think GB is very much planning on getting him involved. Yes this year. You don’t go pick a top 75 overall receiver with the notion of thinking he’s going to play timid or you’re afraid to get him involved. They sure didn’t feel that way about Terry McLaurin. Having a great QB doesn’t hurt either.

He needs seasoning and he needs it now. His injury was an unfortunate setback, but He’s likely going to be vying for the front runner for 2020 at TE and he’ll be seeing increased playing time by the this years playoffs. He’ll have to earn the trust of #12, but I believe Jace is up to the task. Until proven otherwise.
He’s going to be itching to play.

Keep the gas pedal down

 

[jetfixer]

I think the biggest factor in him playing is injury’s to other players. I’m a big fan of drafting him, and picked him in our draft contest. There are only so many spaces to put these guys coming back.

 

[PackinMSP]

Well the thing is i don't think we've ever really had that true full package TE.

Finely could get open but he wasn't a consistent enough catcher, lots of drops
Rodgers had great hands but couldn't get open lol
Cook was a little bit of both but wasn't really consistent enough in his only season with us
Graham is past his prime

It would really be awesome if Sternberger could come in and be a consistent 60/700/8 type of guy for us for years

 

[GleefulGary]

Well the thing is i don't think we've ever really had that true full package TE.

Finely could get open but he wasn't a consistent enough catcher, lots of drops
Rodgers had great hands but couldn't get open lol
Cook was a little bit of both but wasn't really consistent enough in his only season with us
Graham is past his prime

It would really be awesome if Sternberger could come in and be a consistent 60/700/8 type of guy for us for years

How do you talk about a full package TE, and neglect to mention blocking?

 

[Dantés]

How do you talk about a full package TE, and neglect to mention blocking?

I can handle this one for @PackinMSP.

See, Sternberger is white. So that 1) makes him better and more driven, and 2) means that anti-white racism is responsible for the slander that he's a poor blocker.

Or at least, that's in line with the nasty ******** that he spewed out today.

 

[PackinMSP]

Someone sounds mad