SMH! Superbowl Bound?? I don't think so

[armand34]

I had my "Packer-Goggles" on after the nice start of the season. I'm sure a lot of you did. The defense seemed much better then the previous few years. The offense has been SO bad though. Lacy isn't 100% and/or playing well. I would like to think TT had built a better team where by losing one WR wouldn't CRIPPLE us offensively. Yes, Jordy is awesome...but he is ONE guy.

I'd like to think Aaron Rodgers is enough to fill the void, the O-LINE looked pretty below average last night so I can't really blame him for last night.

I know this is a bit of a knee-jerk reaction...Packers are 6-1...awesome! That's better then most.

Does Devante Adams look like a lazy route runner? or is just me? thought he was a 100% back from injury.

I just don't see enough firepower on both sides of the ball to really make a run to the Superbowl. I was just watching an ESPN video and they brought up a crazy stat.

Rodgers is 0-5 against top 5 teams on the Road, with 3 TD's & 5 Interceptions. 4 of those games with Jordy Nelson.

Trade deadline came and went and as expected, Packers take no risks.

At the Halfway Point, will an embarassing-post-bye-week-nationally-televised-game be enough to fire up this team.

Will the Packer's make playoffs, I'm sure they will, will they get to the Superbowl....highly unlikely! I am not on this forum often, but when I am, I'm usually fired up on something.

Ok Rant over

 

[easyk83]

I think it's very doable, but significant changes need to be made.

1) Admit that the spread iso is a bad overall approach and start scheming separation.
2) Get Datone Jones playing more and play him out wide atleast until Nick Perry is full go. This will liberate Matthews again.

Simple changes which should yield big results.

 

[azrsx05]

What this team needs is an attitude adjustment. Besides 2 starters I would bench, the talent is certainly there to be SB contenders. R. Rodgers is dead weight. He can't block, it's ok at catching and a gust of wind knocks him over. Heyward on the defense is there just to let teams gain a bunch of yards on us.

I'm hoping this butt whooping is a good attitude adjustment and they stop overlooking the glaring issues we have all seen, but they decided to overlook because we were 6-0 against mediocre teams. Offense issues can be fixed by scheme adjustments. Trips formation, create confusion in the middle that will create separation and rodgers needs to take what the defense gives him instead of trying to go for a long ball and taking the sack.

I think we will have a few growing pain weeks coming up. But this team will find itself and use this adversity to help in the playoffs

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Admit that the spread iso is a bad overall approach and start scheming separation.

I think that´s the most important adjustment that has to be made. In addition Rodgers has to buy into not looking for the big play on every single down.

 

[desertdog55]

It all starts up front....the O line....the two tackles are just not cutting it. Guards are OK. Lacy is not right. We need an above average TE that can block AND catch, that would have made a world of difference in the Broncos game for the offense...someone Rodgers could count on as a "hot" receiver. Our receivers are good/not great..... As far as Defense, I like our D line, I think it is improving, but our secondary (safeties and CBs) have been atrocious lately. I do understand we have injuries, but come on.... I think the team as a whole needs to play more "physical"... I think they will right the ship eventually, at least I hope so...I am staying positive and hoping this loss opens some eyes.

 

[azrsx05]

It all starts up front....the O line....the two tackles are just not cutting it. Guards are OK. Lacy is not right. We need an above average TE that can block AND catch, that would have made a world of difference in the Broncos game for the offense...someone Rodgers could count on as a "hot" receiver. Our receivers are good/not great..... As far as Defense, I like our D line, I think it is improving, but our secondary (safeties and CBs) have been atrocious lately. I do understand we have injuries, but come on.... I think the team as a whole needs to play more "physical"... I think they will right the ship eventually, at least I hope so...I am staying positive and hoping this loss opens some eyes.

I do think LT needs an improvement. But several times rodgers had great coverage. Even up to like 8 secs to throw the ball, even to the damn stands at least. He decided to take the sack instead. Its a combination of Rodgers hanging on too long and looking for the deep play and coverage sacks. Our Oline is above average.

 

[Vrill]

Our problems are fixable.

 

[Packerlover]

R-E-L-A-X It's only one loss. Granted, it was the poorest performance of the season but I have faith in MM and Aaron Rodgers. Everyone thought the Patriots and Tom Brady were finished after that shellacking in Miami last season and they won the Super Bowl.

I believe the Pack will get things fixed and go into Carolina with a chip on their shoulder and win that game. I don't think it will some huge win. probably 24 to 20 something like that.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

R-E-L-A-X It's only one loss.

It's true that it's only one loss but the offense has struggled for the better parts of three games and the defense has given up over 1,000 yards in the last two contests.

I don't think it's time to relax but to get to work on those issues.

 

[thisisnate]

the "r-e-l-a-x" is for fans, not the team. team's gotta go apesh*t.

 

[Lex Luger]

It may be only one game, but have you looked at the schedule lately. All the upcoming teams have good defenses. In fact all our upcoming opponents are built around hitting the QB.

The biggest disappointment by far this year has been the offensive line, specifically their inability to run block at all. I don't care how well they were rated last year, they cant run block for crap. Having Aaron Rodgers consistently force the other team's safeties back should lead to a 1200+ yard rusher every year with decent OL. Eddie Lacy when healthy is still one of the best RB in the league, but OL is just too weak, slow and small.

Having a sub 300 pound LT isn't going to anchor a consistent run game. There is no answer on the roster that's for sure. The only way this team is going to SB this year is if Ted trades future high round draft picks which isn't going to happen.

Move Bahktiari to LG
Move Sitton to RG
Keep Linsley where he's at
Bench Lang
Bench Bulaga

Go get a real LT and a real RT
Also a good MLB wouldn't hurt.

These are all things a GOOD GM could have done in the offseason, not sit there with 10+ million in cap and give NO help whatsoever to one of the best QB's ever in a QB driven league.

Ted should be drafting one OL in the first two rounds every year. A smart GM would do everything he can to prolong the career of Rodgers and make sure he makes it to 40 in 1 piece.

If Ted had passed on Rodgers, do you honestly think Mike McCarthy or Ted would still be a GM or head coach in this league? They both grossly overrated, especially Ted.

 

[C-Lee]

Our problems are fixable.

This. The overreaction has been insane. We will get better.

 

[Bridcarper]

No shame in losing to the Broncos at Mile High. It could probably turn out to be a blessing in disguise. Get rid of the unbeaten monkey off the teams back - which inevitably would have brought a pressure of its own had we carried on the unbeaten run. I haven't watched the game yet - watching after the wife has watched her soaps tonight!
There are some hard games coming up but the division will be ours and in the postseason knockouts the Packers will be the team everyone wants to avoid.
We have the personnel to reach Superbowl 50 - no doubt about it.

 

[DMANDTM]

I don't think it's time to relax but to get to work on those issues.

Yes. My biggest fear is that we will get to the Bears, Lions, Vikings and cruise through, declaring everything is in order. Then when we get to the playoffs, have it show up again.

 

[armand34]

This feels similar to when we got our butt's kicked against Seattle in the opener last year. I was feeling high on the team, then they get destroyed...lost my confidence...they improved and than the heartbreaking loss in the NFC game. I hope this loss makes them better in some way, ha, I'm just crossing fingers, but I don't have anywhere near the confidence I had before this game. Playoffs, yes (Vikes only one game behind us FYI)...SB....I don't know..

 

[ThePerfectBeard]

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It may be only one game, but have you looked at the schedule lately. All the upcoming teams have good defenses. In fact all our upcoming opponents are built around hitting the QB.

The biggest disappointment by far this year has been the offensive line, specifically their inability to run block at all. I don't care how well they were rated last year, they cant run block for crap. Having Aaron Rodgers consistently force the other team's safeties back should lead to a 1200+ yard rusher every year with decent OL. Eddie Lacy when healthy is still one of the best RB in the league, but OL is just too weak, slow and small.

Having a sub 300 pound LT isn't going to anchor a consistent run game. There is no answer on the roster that's for sure. The only way this team is going to SB this year is if Ted trades future high round draft picks which isn't going to happen.

Move Bahktiari to LG
Move Sitton to RG
Keep Linsley where he's at
Bench Lang
Bench Bulaga

Go get a real LT and a real RT
Also a good MLB wouldn't hurt.

These are all things a GOOD GM could have done in the offseason, not sit there with 10+ million in cap and give NO help whatsoever to one of the best QB's ever in a QB driven league.

Ted should be drafting one OL in the first two rounds every year. A smart GM would do everything he can to prolong the career of Rodgers and make sure he makes it to 40 in 1 piece.

If Ted had passed on Rodgers, do you honestly think Mike McCarthy or Ted would still be a GM or head coach in this league? They both grossly overrated, especially Ted.

Bak at LG, you can't be serious...

 

[AKCheese]

I think Green Bay is very capable of GETTING to the Super Bowl out of the NFC. (This week will yield a clearer answer there). WINNING the Super Bowl will take significant improvement which is very doable.

 

[easyk83]

It may be only one game, but have you looked at the schedule lately. All the upcoming teams have good defenses. In fact all our upcoming opponents are built around hitting the QB.

The biggest disappointment by far this year has been the offensive line, specifically their inability to run block at all. I don't care how well they were rated last year, they cant run block for crap. Having Aaron Rodgers consistently force the other team's safeties back should lead to a 1200+ yard rusher every year with decent OL. Eddie Lacy when healthy is still one of the best RB in the league, but OL is just too weak, slow and small.

Having a sub 300 pound LT isn't going to anchor a consistent run game. There is no answer on the roster that's for sure. The only way this team is going to SB this year is if Ted trades future high round draft picks which isn't going to happen.

Move Bahktiari to LG
Move Sitton to RG
Keep Linsley where he's at
Bench Lang
Bench Bulaga

Go get a real LT and a real RT
Also a good MLB wouldn't hurt.

These are all things a GOOD GM could have done in the offseason, not sit there with 10+ million in cap and give NO help whatsoever to one of the best QB's ever in a QB driven league.

Ted should be drafting one OL in the first two rounds every year. A smart GM would do everything he can to prolong the career of Rodgers and make sure he makes it to 40 in 1 piece.

If Ted had passed on Rodgers, do you honestly think Mike McCarthy or Ted would still be a GM or head coach in this league? They both grossly overrated, especially Ted.

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[adambr2]

Here's a question: Even after Sunday, who in the NFC is head and shoulders better? Carolina? Arizona? I don't think so. How's Atlanta feeling? They just lost at home to Tampa Bay. And it would be unrealistic to assume that we're going to be at our worst every week like we were in Denver.

We're still well in position to get a top 2 seed in the NFC and then we'll see where we're at and go from there. It's not even midseason. We were averaging 32 PPG after 3 games. So it's not that they can't do it, they just aren't right now. There's plenty of time for them to get things back on track this season.

 

[adambr2]

Move Bahktiari to LG
Bench Lang
Bench Bulaga

Let me know where you get your doob.

You do realize this is the exact same offensive line that was a top 3 line in football last year, right? The exact...same...line.

 

[easyk83]

Here's a question: Even after Sunday, who in the NFC is head and shoulders better? Carolina? Arizona? I don't think so. How's Atlanta feeling? They just lost at home to Tampa Bay. And it would be unrealistic to assume that we're going to be at our worst every week like we were in Denver.

We're still well in position to get a top 2 seed in the NFC and then we'll see where we're at and go from there. It's not even midseason. We were averaging 32 PPG after 3 games. So it's not that they can't do it, they just aren't right now. There's plenty of time for them to get things back on track this season.

I think the big question in my mind is will the Packers make the necessary changes to prevent this sort of thing from happening again? Will we adjust the scheme or will we continue with this failed Spread ISO concept?

 

[adambr2]

I think the big question in my mind is will the Packers make the necessary changes to prevent this sort of thing from happening again? Will we adjust the scheme or will we continue with this failed Spread ISO concept?

This being his first OC gig there's a little bit of worry in my mind that Edgar Bennett is in over his head right now. The offensive coaching changes have not taken us forward, at least not yet.

 

[easyk83]

This being his first OC gig there's a little bit of worry in my mind that Edgar Bennett is in over his head right now. The offensive coaching changes have not taken us forward, at least not yet.

But that's the thing, this is not really a fresh problem. It's just that in the past better receiver talent masked this deficiency against most teams and cropped up against better secondaries. It's not so much the play caller in my mind as inherent problems with the scheme. Don't get me wrong I'm sure it would be a great scheme if we had Jordy Nelson and Michael Irvin on the boundaries and prime Sterling Sharpe in the slot and Rob Gronkowski at the TE spot. But against physical top flight secondary talent it's a bad scheme and it plays into the strengths of good bump n run defenses. This isn't that complicated NE and NO have scorching these types of defenses for years and have been doing it with arguably less talented quarterbacks and arguably comparable talent at wide receiver.

 

[Half Empty]

Our problems are fixable.

I think I've heard "we'll get that fixed" before.

 

[thisisnate]

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Bak at LG, you can't be serious...

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Let me know where you get your doob.

You do realize this is the exact same offensive line that was a top 3 line in football last year, right? The exact...same...line.

Thanks, men. I couldn't find an appropriate rating for that comment, so I just left the thread.