Setting up 2025....A Cap Situation Discussion...

[Pokerbrat2000]

My sneaky place is with the Rams too as an option...

I could see that too, for his family. Davante and his wife have 3 young kids, one just born in August. At this stage of his career, I think his wife and kids might be his top priority and playing where ever they want to put down roots may determine what team he signs with.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Yea most assume that 22-28 million figure is a lock to be the range we likely have.

The one interesting thing and Ken has even discussed this some on his Twitter/X account is the Packers outside of forcing restructures to play the shifting game or pushing void there really isn't a ton of things to be done personnel wise in the realm of extensions for the first time in a long time.

Really the only veterans that would offer a cap savings which anyone likely will bring forth is Jaire ($6.8M) and Jenkins ($8M).

Nixon would save only like $2M....

I had to laugh the other day. I saw an article titled "Great news for the Packers, they will have more money to spend in 2025 as the Salary Cap is predicted to increase in 2025."

Come on! How stupid do you think we are?

First, how does that actually help the Packers competitively? Every team gets the same increase.

Second, it just means the Packers will pay players more, as will other teams and the effect is nothing but more money in more pockets.

Finally. "More money to spend"? It isn't a question of having the money, it's just a question of how much goes to the players and how much goes into the Packers coffers to spend on ........


A better and more honest headline would be: "NFL Fans prepare for a 10% increase in ticket, merchandise and media prices for the privilege to watch the NFL."

 

[thequick12]

I would welcome him, as long as all parties understand its 1-2 year situation. And Doubs doesn't get bent out of shape--he and Devante are probably the most similar type (not quality) of receiver and is thus most likely to share snaps.

History repeating itself aside, I can't see Minnesota doing that deal. Adams possibly, Rodgers no, and there is a chance they let Jones go. The man continues to get older. Either they hand the reins over to McCarthy or they extend Darnold. Rodgers is net-new, a short timer, and would be more expensive than Darnold. Too much risk for too little reward. I also don't know their cap situation. It might be impossible.

Id rather pay Rodgers than Darnold for sure. Imo Darnold is garbage or at least certainly not worth 45m per

 

[OldSchool101]

I just now caught up on reading so apologies for the delay...that 2021 class is the definition of a decently deep but nothing top shelf across the board came from it. 7 of them are still active out of the 9 which is solid, but really only Myers appears likely a lock at a second starting contract somewhere...

There is a world where TJ Slaton and/or McDuffie are resigned. I see it being a case where GB let's them hit market after hearing where we are and if market isn't there we sign them to a cheap one or two year deal. I think Slaton likely might have a market more so than McDuffie because Slaton for his role is above average. McDuffie is that type of off ball LB I want around my team but always as a depth guy. Numerous folks have said no one will ever out effort Isaiah and that type of stuff is contagious.

Yeah. I’m going to wishy washy. I don’t know what I was thinking when I said that. Myers on a medium to smaller contract also McDuffie is a good for 4th LB $$. We do have Hopper in the Wings and I really like Eric Wilson on a 1yr deal.

Myers will depend how our FO deems Monk. I think he’d be fine if Myers leaves but they know better than me.

 

[Sanguine camper]

Gute let Runyan walk after his rookie contract. Myers may be viewed similarly. Given that he's hit on some remarkable day 3 O line draft picks, I would be inclined to think that Gute will attempt to replace Myers in the draft and let him walk. Is Monk a replacement at center or guard if Jenkins moves over? Not based on his rookie season. We'll see. Rasheed Walker took a year to develop but spending a high draft pick on a center or guard makes sense since depth is an issue, especially if Myers leaves.

 

[OldSchool101]

We should have 2-3 guys competing at both Center and Guard (if Elgton slides over) next year. I have absolutely no problem drafting another interior Center. Although I don’t think it’s must situation at all.
I will say GB likes versatility though. Monk wins in that department. He has 12 starts at Tackle, 12 starts at Center to back his RG experience. No one in this draft had more raw experience than Jacob Monk. He started as a True Freshman (1st time across 12 years of program history) Take a look at his snap counts in college (4,777). That’s just highly unusual you get a guy that starts 5 full seasons.
Apparently the Packers FO values that versatility. They spent not 1, but 2 draft selections on him.

Positional Versatility, Experience, Draft Capital and Athleticism (an astounding 9.76 RAS score) are 4 good combined reasons Monk will be on this Roster next season. If he’s on the Roster he’s competing for a spot. Great thing is we can draft at OG or OC and he can roll either way. Better thing is if he gets beat out again by
Walker-Morgan-Jenkins-Rhyan-Tom

 

[thequick12]

Is Davante dropping them or is the media and fans dropping them?

I love the guy, but I would absolutely not trade for him. He has 2 years left on his contract and it calls for $35.64M/year.

That contract will probably force the Jets to just cut him, unless they are willing to pick-up a large part of his contract, in exchange for a mid round pick.

If DA becomes a free agent, I don't see him coming back to GB. I see him signing with the Chiefs, Vikings or Lions.

He just talked glowingly about the organization and...which is no surprise considering his most recent experience with the Raiders and Jets, probably the two most dysfunctional organizations in the league

He's likely to be traded and then given a new contract or released, it is the jets. But either way he's getting a new deal

I dont see the Lions as an option, and the Vikings are only an option if Rodgers goes there. The Chiefs seem like a great fit, I dont think Mahomes has ever had a receiver of Davantae's caliber. Hill is really good but he's not a traditional wr

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

He just talked glowingly about the organization

Oh I would never expect to hear Davante trash talk the Packers. One, it isn't his style and two he the Packers are the reason he is where he is at today in the NFL.

I just don't see the Packers wanting to bring him back. The receiving group is young and productive, they don't need to bring in a veteran to change that.

 

[tynimiller]

Oh I would never expect to hear Davante trash talk the Packers. One, it isn't his style and two he the Packers are the reason he is where he is at today in the NFL.

I just don't see the Packers wanting to bring him back. The receiving group is young and productive, they don't need to bring in a veteran to change that.

I think it's a year early is all if this next season. With impending contract decisions of Watson and Doubs - arguably this team can do one of those two decisions before this next season ends (which doesn't mean one is gone, but they could resign one of them and let the other play out 2025 and walk)....I think after the 2025 season is when a veteran type guy coming in might be likely. I could and would even embrace a MVS back in GB to replace a Watson departure IF that is the direction they headed. He cannot duplicate all Watson does but he is a better blocker than Melton and still has that ability to get behind defenses at times with his feet.

Of course all of this type of hypotheticals can wait till after the season and some possibly during/after next.

 

[OldSchool101]

I think it's a year early is all if this next season. With impending contract decisions of Watson and Doubs - arguably this team can do one of those two decisions before this next season ends (which doesn't mean one is gone, but they could resign one of them and let the other play out 2025 and walk)....I think after the 2025 season is when a veteran type guy coming in might be likely. I could and would even embrace a MVS back in GB to replace a Watson departure IF that is the direction they headed. He cannot duplicate all Watson does but he is a better blocker than Melton and still has that ability to get behind defenses at times with his feet.

Of course all of this type of hypotheticals can wait till after the season and some possibly during/after next.

Yeah that’s the point I made. We’re in no hurry let it play out.

Logically I’d expect our group to continue ascending. Our most experienced are still in their Junior Rookie contract area. We still have 19 regular season games, plus potentially 2 Playoffs with Doubs and Watson under contract.

I’m still very curious to see what becomes of Musgrave. He really impressed 2023 and all through Camp 2024. Then he had Week 1 in Brazil. From there a Running QB2 with limited looks, then an injury to open Week 4. Then he’s out. Then he’s gradual being worked back in. He has 8 targets in 6 starts. Not complaining but to the contrary, he’s about to get his chance to pick up where he left off. He could be very well be that 600+ yards, 5TD+ type as a receiver and that would be a significant factor in making decisions. We didn’t spend a 45 overall to have him play Teams (not suggesting you inferred that) if that makes sense?

We’ve got a 2nd Rounder about to pop back on stage. I think that he’s still has top 3 TE potential from his Draft Class.

 

[milani]

Speaking of 2025...

Davantae Adams is now dropping hints that he might be into a reunion with the Packers.

What are people's thoughts on this?

Personally I think it's obviously a longshot. The alternative however doesnt seem very good for the Packers.

I think there's a decent chance both Aaron Rodgers and Davantae Adams end up reuniting with Aaron Jones in Minnesota

That would be a scary offense with Rodgers, Adams, Jones, Jefferson, Hockenson, and Addison

Adams had his time here. Now we have a new generation of Packer offensive players. And the Vikings probably do not feel any different. They do not need either one of them. The Lions, Vikings, and Packers are preparing for a good run by managing their caps and making smart draft decisions. Out with the old, in with the new.

 

[milani]

My sneaky place is with the Rams too as an option...

I would say the Rams. Good choice. The Chargers ORRR the 9ers! Remember Adams is someone who is always California Dreamin!

 

[Poppa San]

I would say the Rams. Good choice. The Chargers ORRR the 9ers! Remember Adams is someone who is always California Dreamin!

Isn't he from California which was part of the lure of the Raiders?

 

[tynimiller]

Isn't he from California which was part of the lure of the Raiders?

Yea

 

[milani]

Isn't he from California which was part of the lure of the Raiders?

You know it. Especially Sittin' on the Dock of the Bay.

 

[PackerDNA]

Why don't we sign cornerback Xavian Howard?
Not knowing if we can count on Alexander going forward, Howard could be a very solid vet edition for the stretch run

 

[thequick12]

Adams had his time here. Now we have a new generation of Packer offensive players. And the Vikings probably do not feel any different. They do not need either one of them. The Lions, Vikings, and Packers are preparing for a good run by managing their caps and making smart draft decisions. Out with the old, in with the new.

With Sam Darnold the Vikings are not scaring anyone...I expect the Packers to go into Minneapolis and handle the Vikings

Now maybe JJ McCarthy will turn out to be the real deal but there's no way you can pay Sam Darnold 50 milion a year on a long term deal

Do the Packers need Adams? Nope..but is Adams better than any wr the Packers have, absolutely. And they aren't going to be able to keep both Doubs and Watson I dont think

 

[milani]

With Sam Darnold the Vikings are not scaring anyone...I expect the Packers to go into Minneapolis and handle the Vikings

Now maybe JJ McCarthy will turn out to be the real deal but there's no way you can pay Sam Darnold 50 milion a year on a long term deal

Do the Packers need Adams? Nope..but is Adams better than any wr the Packers have, absolutely. And they aren't going to be able to keep both Doubs and Watson I dont think

Playing the Vikings in their building would mean we would have to have all hands on deck and they would have to be missing the big cards in the deck. They are just too experienced and too well coached to fall apart as in previous years. It would take a tremendous pass rush and a stout run defense to shut down their offense. And they still have a defense that can win games.