Roster turnover 2019

[rodell330]

I mentioned this earlier in the year about how different the team will look going into 2019. I do believe that unless MM makes a deep playoff run he will be out as HC, which will be the biggest Green Bay off season move since Favre was traded to the Jets. I think that the team has been as healthy as it has been going into week 7 as it’s been in years. So the injury excuse won’t save MM this off season.

Key Departures:
Clay Matthews
Randall Cobb
Bryan Bulaga
HCD
Kentrell Brice
Ty Montgomery
Tramon Williams
Geronimo Allison
Justin McCray

All these guys start or have been starters at some point this season.

I think they try and bring Cobb back on a cap friendly deal?? But I think everyone else is as good as gone.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I mentioned this earlier in the year about how different the team will look going into 2019. I do believe that unless MM makes a deep playoff run he will be out as HC, which will be the biggest Green Bay off season move since Favre was traded to the Jets. I think that the team has been as healthy as it has been going into week 7 as it’s been in years. So the injury excuse won’t save MM this off season.

Key Departures:
Clay Matthews
Randall Cobb
Bryan Bulaga
HCD
Kentrell Brice
Ty Montgomery
Tramon Williams
Geronimo Allison
Justin McCray

All these guys start or have been starters at some point this season.

I think they try and bring Cobb back on a cap friendly deal?? But I think everyone else is as good as gone.

Once again, it would be extremely surprising if the Packers don't bring back Allison. The team letting walk Clinton-Dix away in free agency might turn out to be a huge mistake.

 

[rodell330]

Once again, it would be extremely surprising if the Packers don't bring back Allison. The team letting walk Clinton-Dix away in free agency might turn out to be a huge mistake.

Allison doesn’t scare anyone...yes he’s solid but replaceable. I see two faster, bigger, more athletic guys in St.Brown and MVS who can step in for Allison and Cobb and with experience be just as good under Rodgers.

As for HCD?? Just depends on what version of HCD you’re evaluating. I think it would make more sense to franchise tag him than pay him a huge contract. But they really need to go hard after Landon Collins.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Allison doesn’t scare anyone...yes he’s solid but replaceable. I see two faster, bigger, more athletic guys in St.Brown and MVS who can step in for Allison and Cobb and with experience be just as good under Rodgers.

As for HCD?? Just depends on what version of HCD you’re evaluating. I think it would make more sense to franchise tag him than pay him a huge contract. But they really need to go hard after Landon Collins.

With Allison being a restricted free agent the Packers could bring him back for cheap next season providing decent depth at the position.

The franchise tag was set at $11.3 million for safeties this season. There's no way I would feel comfortable with paying that kind of mone to Clinton-Dix.

 

[rodell330]

With Allison being a restricted free agent the Packers could bring him back for cheap next season providing decent depth at the position.

The franchise tag was set at $11.3 million for safeties this season. There's no way I would feel comfortable with paying that kind of mone to Clinton-Dix.

So what do you think the guy is going to want a year if he resigns? He’s going to want 10 mil plus per season I guarantee it. Matthews and Perry got those type of deals and they weren’t even that good in their contract seasons either. Hopefully Gute is smart in this situation. But I’d rather give him 11 for a season than 11 per season over 4-5 yrs. UNLESS you draft a FS in the first rd or get Landon Collins.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

So what do you think the guy is going to want a year if he resigns? He’s going to want 10 mil plus per season I guarantee it. Matthews and Perry got those type of deals and they weren’t even that good in their contract seasons either.

I wouldn't be in favor of paying Clinton-Dix $10 million a season on a long term deal. If he's asking for that kind of money I'm fine with letting him walk away.

Matthews and Perry had a combined 24 sacks during their respective contract seasons.

 

[PackAttack12]

Letting Allison go makes little sense, in my opinion.

 

[Arod2gjdd]

Wtf? Why would Allison be gone....

 

[Dantés]

Allison and Brice are RFA's who can be tendered on the cheap and will likely be back. I know in a world where everyone is either great or the worst, it's hard to understand this, but Brice would be a good keep as depth even though he needs to be replaced in the starting lineup.

McCray is an ERFA-- he will be back. Like Brice, he needs to be replaced as the starter. However, in a league starved for OL depth there is no reason to let him go.

Bulaga will likely come back for the last year of his deal while they draft an heir apparent. Spriggs hasn't made his release suitable and he's still playing fairly well.

I don't see why they would cut Tramon Williams early. He's played well and is exactly the type of player you want around young DB's. His cap hit is totally manageable, especially given that Alexander, King, and Jackson are on rookie contracts.

It's a toss up as to whether Clinton-Dix is resigned.

Matthews, Cobb, and Montgomery are the only guys on that list that are as good as gone.

 

[Jerellh528]

From that list, the only players I’d want back are Clay on a good deal, and HaHa. As for Geronimo, Mvs and St. Brown will be ready to start by next season, and Geronimo can be replaced by either Moore or another rookie for cheaper. Geronimo isn’t an essential player and it seems like he’s already being a bit phased out to get MVS more action. He had 1 catch for 14 yards yesterday and we didn’t miss him while he was out.

 

[Dantés]

From that list, the only players I’d want back are Clay on a good deal, and HaHa. As for Geronimo, Mvs and St. Brown will be ready to start by next season, and Geronimo can be replaced by either Moore or another rookie for cheaper. Geronimo isn’t an essential player and it seems like he’s already being a bit phased out to get MVS more action. He had 1 catch for 14 yards yesterday and we didn’t miss him while he was out.

Granted there are young players who could take his snaps, but when Allison would come cheap, what is the sense in letting him walk? Why wouldn't a team want that inexpensive depth?

 

[Cheese Headed Monster]

Who would be left on the team lol!~

 

[Mondio]

I don't see Allison not being brought back. Cobb or Matthews could be, to a contract more in line with production. I actually think Matthews might provide more, depending on how the season goes for Cobb. But you know we're investing in a new pass rusher or 2 this offseason. Matthews wouldn't be our main guy, and with limited snaps I think he's production goes up. He's been looking better each week and though he won't be a 14 sack force on every play guy, he can certainly be a right time, make the big play type player. Of course on a contract more in line with production. But i'm not completely writing him off yet.

I think Cobb is a more likely loss, we drafted heavy in WR last draft and they seem to be catching on. another half season and they might replace a healthy Cobb anyway by the end.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Spriggs hasn't made his release suitable and he's still playing fairly well.

Fortunately Spriggs hasn't played for the majority of the snaps. I wouldn't mind the Packers keeping him around for the last year of his rookie deal but there's absolutely no reason offering him a second contract as of now.

 

[Mondio]

I don't even want to see if Spriggs has gotten better. I'd rather things stay like they are right now at that position

 

[Dantés]

Fortunately Spriggs hasn't played for the majority of the snaps. I wouldn't mind the Packers keeping him around for the last year of his rookie deal but there's absolutely no reason offering him a second contract as of now.

You may already realize this, but just to clarify that post that you quoted-- I am saying that Bulaga is still playing fairly well and that Spriggs has done nothing to prove that the former should be cut early. I think we're on the same page, but I'm just making sure. But yeah, I have no issue if they bring Spriggs back into camp next year. But they had better also invest in more talent at OT.

 

[Jerellh528]

Granted there are young players who could take his snaps, but when Allison would come cheap, what is the sense in letting him walk? Why wouldn't a team want that inexpensive depth?

Imo cheaper, higher potential, rookie. In the nfl I think it’s usually a better idea to roll with that than the Jarret Boykins of the world when there’s depth there already. I think playing with Rodgers might land him a contract that overstates his value, not exactly sure how nfl rfa works, but we’d have to match whatever offer he gets in order to keep him in my understanding. I don’t think we skip a beat without him on the team.

 

[Dantés]

Imo cheaper, higher potential, rookie. In the nfl I think it’s usually a better idea to roll with that than the Jarret Boykins of the world when there’s depth there already. I think playing with Rodgers might land him a contract that overstates his value, not exactly sure how nfl rfa works, but we’d have to match whatever offer he gets in order to keep him in my understanding. I don’t think we skip a beat without him on the team.

The tender you place on him comes with a set, one year figure attached to it like a franchise tag. A 1st round tender is more expensive than a 2nd, and a 2nd is more expensive than an original round. In 2017, the numbers were 3.9M, 2.7M, and 1.8M respectively. If another team offers the player after being tendered, the Packers would have a chance to match. If they don't, the team that signs said player then owes you the pick at which you tendered him. So a 2nd round pick costs a little more, but makes the player much more secure.

Me, I would totally pay Allison 3M to be here one more year. He's great depth, and they don't need more young players after drafting three rookies.

 

[RicFlairoftheNFL]

I mentioned this earlier in the year about how different the team will look going into 2019. I do believe that unless MM makes a deep playoff run he will be out as HC, which will be the biggest Green Bay off season move since Favre was traded to the Jets. I think that the team has been as healthy as it has been going into week 7 as it’s been in years. So the injury excuse won’t save MM this off season.

Key Departures:
Clay Matthews
Randall Cobb
Bryan Bulaga
HCD
Kentrell Brice
Ty Montgomery
Tramon Williams
Geronimo Allison
Justin McCray

All these guys start or have been starters at some point this season.

I think they try and bring Cobb back on a cap friendly deal?? But I think everyone else is as good as gone.

In a perfect world you're right on everyone except Geronimo. Geronimo stays we need a solid 3 that can fill in as a 2 as needed. Problem is we don't live in a perfect world so I don't know how accurate this post will turn out to be.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

The tender you place on him comes with a set, one year figure attached to it like a franchise tag. A 1st round tender is more expensive than a 2nd, and a 2nd is more expensive than an original round. In 2017, the numbers were 3.9M, 2.7M, and 1.8M respectively. If another team offers the player after being tendered, the Packers would have a chance to match. If they don't, the team that signs said player then owes you the pick at which you tendered him. So a 2nd round pick costs a little more, but makes the player much more secure.

The Packers would have to place the second round tender on Allison as he was an undrafted free agent meaning the team would get no compensation if he signed with another one by putting the original round tender on him.