Packers vs Vikings Game Thread: I hate that Horn Edition

[tynimiller]

To the statistically able here, how many times in the 3 seasons have we given up career games to quarterbacks? Off the top of my head this game and baker just last year. I'm sure there are at least 6 more

Nope. Baker has done better this year alone

 

[OldSchool101]

This team will not go far in the playoffs.

Actually had that Darnold pass been a fumble? GB wins. This was a nail biter any one play and GB wins

Give us back that FREE retry at a missed FG? GB wins

Refs got into this and it cost us a direct -3 points

 

[tynimiller]

Hopefully Alexander plays again.

But I think if you just inject Watson, a healthy Musgrave, Walker and Williams? I think we can beat these guys. If Alexander plays also I think we have a 55% chance of beating them.

Quay, Jaire and healthy Williams is a MASSIVE blow to this team because we simply loose way way way too much athleticism

 

[tynimiller]

Actually had that Darnold pass been a fumble? GB wins. This was a nail biter any one play and GB wins

Give us back that FREE retry at a missed FG? GB wins

Refs got into this and it cost us a direct -3 points

And if we kick the FG instead of failed fourth down…there were about four or five plays that could have flipped it…problem was they didn’t and the rest we failed to execute at a high level

 

[Thirteen Below]

MLF is in his 6th season. He consistently gets badly outcoached in the big spots. It's not going to get better

I hate to say it, but more and more I've been thinking that maybe we replaced Mike McCarthy with another Mike McCarthy.

 

[JoePack]

This team will not go far in the playoffs.

And won't as long as MLF is the coach, in mho.
I've got a college coach that does the same shtt. Always a bowl game but can't beat top teams. Last yrs big 10 result an example

 

[Sanguine camper]

Lions and Vikings have passed up the Packers. It's not even that close. The difference is that the Packers' high priced players don't show up in big games. The Packers are the third best team in the division because they gave the third best QB in the division.

 

[tynimiller]

D for first half
B for second half

C for total.

 

[JoePack]

And if we kick the FG instead of failed fourth down…there were about four or five plays that could have flipped it…problem was they didn’t and the rest we failed to execute at a high level

Precisely. He's done this b4.

 

[melvin dangerr]

can’t keep waiting for the 4th QTR to stage a major comeback, have to be consistent every QTR

 

[DoURant]

And if we kick the FG instead of failed fourth down…there were about four or five plays that could have flipped it…problem was they didn’t and the rest we failed to execute at a high level

We had more plays that hurt ourselves than the Vikings did.

 

[Sanguine camper]

I hate to say it, but more and more I've been thinking that maybe we replaced Mike McCarthy with another Mike McCarthy.

MLF has had 6 seasons. How many more do you give him to show you he doesn't learn. He'd make a good O coordinator but as a head coach he's not cutting it. Why bring him back?

 

[Thirteen Below]

Total shutdown. Does everyone know how hard it is beat a team 3 times in one season? There, I've said it twice...

Yeah, yeah, we heard ya.... but what's the story on this pink flamingo snow globe deal?

 

[OldSchool101]

This mindset is hilariously dumb. Sorry but I’m sick of this spoiled fanbase talking like as if we’ve sucked for forty years. Apologies Magooch as this is not directed specifically at you, but I’ve been reading similar things far too much and I think I finally have had enough so straight up apologize.


As for the game, I posted earlier only one team executed consistently the first half. GB finally got their **** together later but too late and even then it was still very clear we HAVE TO HAVE Jaire in for our defense to be what it can be - which is proven to be good and capable.

We went for it on a fourth down when we could have kicked…folks always mad we aren’t aggressive but now folks will ***** that we didn’t kick it…

Main thing this year and last has proven to me is a lot of Packer fanbase have no clue how hard it is to win in the NFL…and just as brilliant it seems at times when MLF schemes a guy wide open - the opposing team does this and our defense is worthless and everyone needs fired or released.

This team is VERY capable to hang with anyone, pre snap discipline is terrible, consistent execution out of our second tier guys on defense is not there yet…and Jaire being out. We clean those things up I do believe we can beat ANYONE….we don’t do that we are just good enough to always be in it but not win it with anyone.

100% agree.

Put J’aire and Evan Williams in
I know this will hurt but Bullard has another bad game. I really don’t think he’s ready he looked lost.
That was #20 that got burned on a TD.

That was #20 that Let the RB go into the flat uncovered. He was spying the QB but should’ve broke off with the RB and he was front n center missing plays left and right

 

[Firethorn1001]

They really do need an alpha receiver to do what Jefferson does. That is, make life easier for #2-5.

Why I really wanted the Packers to grab Thomas Jr in the 1st round this year.

 

[OldSchool101]

They really do need an alpha receiver to do what Jefferson does. That is, make life easier for #2-5.

Why I really wanted the Packers to grab Thomas Jr in the 1st round this year.

Yes. It’s not that we’re bad. It’s just we don’t have that 1 true signature player that makes those amazing 1 handed grabs.

We don’t have that WR who can double move you and get behind the Defense by 3 yards out of nowhere. Watson is good, but he’s a 1 trick pony. He’s not very well rounded.

 

[melvin dangerr]

Everyone have a safe and happy New Year

 

[Sanguine camper]

Quay, Jaire and healthy Williams is a MASSIVE blow to this team because we simply loose way way way too much athleticism

Alexander has issues coming back from injuries. Something isn't right. I think he"s going to cut in the off season which starts in 2 weeks. Packers got beat on the LOS again. That's where the lack of athleticism really shows up. I posted earlier this week that the makeshift secondary wasn't going to cut it. That wasn't surprising. What was the surprise is how poorly the offense played.

 

[Thirteen Below]

Can someone tell me the last time Detroit and Minnesota swept the Packers in a single season?

Surprisingly, not that long - Google AI claims it last happened in 2017, McCarthy's last full season.

 

[milani]

Should be the late Sunday game

Come to think of it, Yes. Maybe SNF.

 

[DoURant]

Its for the 1st rd bye.... If it isn't, there is a problem. Plus the Lions play Monday night, gives them a little more time for a huge game.

 

[Firethorn1001]

New leader in the dumbest post of the year race

I took it as rest Love since the game is meaningless. (Which I think will happen at some point in the game. Not sure Love plays all 4Q). If it was a start Willis over Love because you are benching Love ya.. that isn't happening.

 

[milani]

Alexander has issues coming back from injuries. Something isn't right. I think he"s going to cut in the off season which starts in 2 weeks. Packers got beat on the LOS again. That's where the lack of athleticism really shows up. I posted earlier this week that the makeshift secondary wasn't going to cut it. That wasn't surprising. What was the surprise is how poorly the offense played.

We played good D on that throw and catch to Jefferson near the boundary at the end but he still caught it. Maybe if JA is playing he breaks it up or Darnold goes elsewhere.

 

[OldSchool101]

GB doesn’t need Jefferson level. They do 100% need a Jameson Williams to Tee Higgins 1,000 yard 10 TD type.

 

[Magooch]

Are the Vikings some dominant unbeatable team for GB? No

Of course they are not. Is anyone claiming they are, though?

I think it is pretty clear that they *are* indeed better than us. And so as I've been saying...we will need to have an "up" game and them a "down" one to have a chance.

But it's not just about the Vikings either. There are three teams ahead of us in the NFC standings (not playoff seeds, of course). Lions, Vikings, Eagles. And all five of our losses have came against those teams. With only one game remaining against the Bears, if nothing else it's not particularly encouraging to be heading into the playoffs with us having been incapable thus far of beating a team that is "better" than us.

This mindset is hilariously dumb. Sorry but I’m sick of this spoiled fanbase talking like as if we’ve sucked for forty years. Apologies Magooch as this is not directed specifically at you, but I’ve been reading similar things far too much and I think I finally have had enough so straight up apologize.

My point was not to say that we have always been terrible or anything like that, but rather that more or less in the "LaFleur era" when all the chips are down in high-stakes/high-importance situations it seems like more often than not *we* are the side coming up short. Like I said, be honest: how many of us were confident *we* would be the ones making the stop there to get the ball back for the win? I have to think that your average Minnesota fan is considerably more confident in their team's ability to close out that game than your average Packer fan is (or should be) in their team's ability to get the stop and get in a position to win.

As for the game, I posted earlier only one team executed consistently the first half.

And why does it consistently feel like this is the case in the big games?

GB finally got their **** together later but too late

And...why does it consistently feel like this is ALSO the case?

and even then it was still very clear we HAVE TO HAVE Jaire in for our defense to be what it can be - which is proven to be good and capable.

How true is that, though? We've got one game left in the season and we still apparently don't know where our ceiling is. Having lost every time we have played a "better" opponent, Jaire or not...what reason do we have to be confident that it is "good and capable" enough to get over the hill the next time around?

This team is VERY capable to hang with anyone

Here is the part that I take issue with though (and likewise: It's nothing personal here, either). But a lot of this line of thinking feels like the same as the old saying, "crap in one hand and wish in the other and see which fills up faster". You don't win any awards for "being able to hang with anyone".

pre snap discipline is terrible,

As before...why does it consistently feel like this is the case?

consistent execution out of our second tier guys on defense is not there yet…

And...stop me if you've heard this one before...why does this too seem to consistently be the case?
This is what I also mean by "always the bridesmaid, never the bride": we are constantly talking about how IF all these pieces finally coalesce and come together then we'll make some noise. Just endlessly frustrating year after year to have that one or two (or more) pieces that never actually come together: IF we get healthy, IF our "project players" we drafted make good on their potential, IF one of our WRs becomes a #1 for us, IF our players execute better, IF we clean up our penalties, and so on and so forth. Just feels like there is always going to be one or two big IFs in the way, and that's a real bummer.

We clean those things up I do believe we can beat ANYONE….we don’t do that we are just good enough to always be in it but not win it with anyone.

That's the trouble for me. Like above: Maybe that's the case but we haven't shown it yet. 0/5 against the teams who are ahead of us. It seems like we are stuck in that "good enough to compete but not win" bracket at the moment. Of course it's possible, but again I'll ask: if we are being honest with ourselves, who is confident that this WILL happen come playoff time? Not "I think it could happen" but "I believe this will happen". That's where the sticky point is for me.