Packers vs Bears Game Thread: Seasons End

[OldSchool101]

Funny what a difference two weeks makes. Two weeks ago, we had pitched the only shutout of the season against the Saints, and you started to think hey maybe our defense is starting to gel, then we have two demoralizing losses in a row. Oh well, on to Philly.

See I didn’t think the D played all that bad. 17 points allowed? Should’ve been 16 points that was a ticky tack call on Bullard watched it 4 times. Odunze sild it well like a best supporting actor. throwing his arms up. I guess they only called flags if you have acting skills? lol
Sure didn’t call one on this Chicago TD. I guess we didn’t do a great “act” afterwards. Should’ve been 2 flags here. Blocking in the Back. Holding. He used a full fledged arm hook until the Returner was past

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[JKramer64]

Yeah, I've beleaguered this point plenty of times. Every time something like this happens, MLF gives a generic pseudo-apology where he claims responsibility and says that can't happen anymore and yet... they still happen, week after week after week... I'd rather he just say nothing at this point rather than say this sort of stuff any longer

That's because he knows he will not be held accountable by management. If the Packers put on a poor showing next week, they should consider moving on from him. But we all know that won't happen. Murphy isn't going to fire him on his way out the door.

 

[Snoops]

Need to find a #1 WR in free agency or the draft... Reed, Wicks, Doubs, Heath & Melton won't get GB too far. They're all #2/3 & 3/4 WR's, usually one or 2 out any given week. Can't ride Jacobs this hard & expect him to last his entire contract.

They should not resign Watson or doubs

 

[BrokenArrow]

Funny what a difference two weeks makes. Two weeks ago, we had pitched the only shutout of the season against the Saints, and you started to think hey maybe our defense is starting to gel, then we have two demoralizing losses in a row. Oh well, on to Philly.

Nothing demoralizing about today really. MLF said Love could have returned but they decided against it. Clearly, winning wasn't as important as trying to stay healthy. Bears benefited from today's circumstances. Packers put more importance on next week's game than today. If the priority was winning today no matter what, I'm sure Love and Jacobs would have easily made the difference.

 

[BrokenArrow]

That's because he knows he will not be held accountable by management. If the Packers put on a poor showing next week, they should consider moving on from him. But we all know that won't happen. Murphy isn't going to fire him on his way out the door.

Grass always greener on the other side, isn't it?

 

[OldSchool101]

They still would have gotten there in time to spike the ball. You would have had to hold him down for 7-8 seconds to prevent him lining up in time and that definitely would have been a penalty.

No it was 2 sec when they spiked it. Had our player grabbed the ball and counted to 2-3 sec and let go it would not have been a delay. I doubt it anyway. Past 5 sec it’s getting called though imo.
I’d actually practice that this week. I’m being serious. Whatever you do don’t let that WR set the ball or hand it off to a ref

 

[Firethorn1001]

Nothing demoralizing about today really. MLF said Love could have returned but they decided against it. Clearly, winning wasn't as important as trying to stay healthy. Bears benefited from today's circumstances. Packers put more importance on next week's game than today. If the priority was winning today no matter what, I'm sure Love and Jacobs would have easily made the difference.

Fans project their demoralization and emotions onto the team expecting the players feel as bad losing to the Bears as they do. The game was meaningless. Even Washington pulled Daniels so 6 or 7, they didn't care. If a coach walks into a locker room and says 'We gotta go to LA instead of Philly because we aren't going to win (or they need to avoid certain teams)" that's an awful tactic. Coach loses faith in the players behind closed doors... they might as well move on.

 

[Catamount1971]

Nothing demoralizing about today really. MLF said Love could have returned but they decided against it. Clearly, winning wasn't as important as trying to stay healthy. Bears benefited from today's circumstances. Packers put more importance on next week's game than today. If the priority was winning today no matter what, I'm sure Love and Jacobs would have easily made the difference.

The delusional Bears fans have hope again for 2025. They are undefeated this year. I prefer the misery of Chicago talk radio after a Bears loss .

 

[PikeBadger]

MLF won't be taking any demotions in Green Bay. Also, whenever he gets fired, he will get another HC job quickly, IMO.

He has a much better reputation around the league than he does on this forum. Must be that all the football geniuses only reside on this forum. After all, where else have you heard that the Packers have the worst defense in all of football?

 

[DoURant]

With the Rams losing and the Bucs winning today, it's Eagles vs Packers, Bucs Vs Commanders and Rams Vs the loser of Lions/Vikings in the NFC next weekend.

 

[adambr2]

Want to give a “stud” shoutout to whichever defender it was on the Bears that immediately started motioning for trainers when Watson went down. I know that’s just decency but you don’t always see it, I don’t know if the play was even over yet and he was calling for trainers. It wasn’t unnoticed, at least not by me.

 

[Snoops]

Green Bay should be 0-6 in the division just a fyi lmaoo

 

[adambr2]

With the Rams losing and the Bucs winning today, it's Eagles vs Packers, Bucs Vs Commanders and Rams Vs the loser of Lions/Vikings in the NFC next weekend.

So, this is a little crazy to me, but this is how the Rams viewed this coming into the weekend:

“If we win, we can pretty much assure a home game vs. the Commanders.”

“If we lose, we’re guaranteed a home game versus either the Lions or Vikings.”

“We’re fine with the Lions or Vikings, just want to go in healthy. Rest everyone and take the L.”

I guess maybe the rest of the NFL doesn’t see as big of a gap between the Lions/Vikings and the rest of the playoff field as we do. At least, Sean McVay doesn’t.

 

[OldSchool101]

The Refs called a holding call on the Bears last drive. It was actually a face mask, should have been a 15 yd penalty. 5 yds on that kick may have made a difference. Enagbare's horse collar tackle hurt as well, as Williams was running out of bounds. That's 20 free yards on that last possession.

I noticed that. Had we not horse collar Caleb probably gets to the 20-25. Instead he moved up to the 35. Those mistakes are critical in that situation.

 

[OldSchool101]

Bazinga.
But to be fair. I think Halas was done coaching by the time of first Super Bowl iirc. I could be wrong.

Yeah but he coached for like 40 years. I think he holds record. Not to mention he did it at an extremely high level. He is in that top win% in nfl history ahead of MLF. Obviously Matt has just 6 years

 

[Schultz]

No it was 2 sec when they spiked it. Had our player grabbed the ball and counted to 2-3 sec and let go it would not have been a delay. I doubt it anyway. Past 5 sec it’s getting called though imo.
I’d actually practice that this week. I’m being serious. Whatever you do don’t let that WR set the ball or hand it off to a ref

If you want to talk about the clock tell me how in the world do you snap the ball with almost 20 seconds on the play clock on 3rd down before the McManus FG. I was at the bar watching so correct me if I am wrong on this. I fully expected them to let the play clock run down to 1 and take a timeout. At that time it was a 53 yard FG. Discuss whether you want to pick up another yard or 2 (QB sneak) and kick the FG or go for the 1st down. Absolutely brutal clock management as well as play call on 3rd down. I did not read thru this whole thread so I apologize if this has been discussed previously.

 

[OldSchool101]

So, this is a little crazy to me, but this is how the Rams viewed this coming into the weekend:

“If we win, we can pretty much assure a home game vs. the Commanders.”

“If we lose, we’re guaranteed a home game versus either the Lions or Vikings.”

“We’re fine with the Lions or Vikings, just want to go in healthy. Rest everyone and take the L.”

I guess maybe the rest of the NFL doesn’t see as big of a gap between the Lions/Vikings and the rest of the playoff field as we do. At least, Sean McVay doesn’t.

I know we all panic as fans. I’m 100% sure after that game today that MLF fibbed. He said he was playing to win. But he pulled Clark, Musgrave, Jacobs and Love for 70% of this game. Many other backups got increased snaps. I’m not complaining I said pregame I’d limit my snaps to 70%. Matt limited key players to 30%. That tells me a story. This was a scrimmage.

Heath led our WR in yards on O

Oladapo played the entire game.

It’s all fine I’ve been wanting to see him and Hopper and Lloyd (who went IR Thursday). It shows a pattern. This was a hard mix of starters with our bench.

 

[tynimiller]

They should not resign Watson or doubs

They don’t need to worry about this for another season though.

 

[Firethorn1001]

So, this is a little crazy to me, but this is how the Rams viewed this coming into the weekend:

Washington did the same thing. Pretty sure McVay historically sits guys once there there a minimal gains to be made. Said it earlier much matchups/seeds is more of a fan driven angst than probably what the coaches worry about.

 

[OldSchool101]

They don’t need to worry about this for another season though.

Technically we do. I’d go draft a WR higher. The more I consider this the more I think having our George Pickens type added makes sense. We have good success in Round2, there’s normally some good ones left in the 50’s overall.
If Watson suddenly recovers next season and plays 17 straight games God bless him. I’m not expecting Watson more than 10 games area healthy and that in itself is not good unless you are Justin Jefferson or Jerry Rice

 

[adambr2]

I know we all panic as fans. I’m 100% sure after that game today that MLF fibbed. He said he was playing to win. But he pulled Clark, Musgrave, Jacobs and Love for 70% of this game. Many other backups got increased snaps. I’m not complaining I said pregame I’d limit my snaps to 70%. Matt limited key players to 30%. That tells me a story. This was a scrimmage.

Heath led our WR in yards on O

Oladapo played the entire game.

It’s all fine I’ve been wanting to see him and Hopper and Lloyd (who went IR Thursday). It shows a pattern. This was a hard mix of starters with our bench.

As it relates to season goals, I understand that today was effectively a preseason game (at least it was once Dallas lost).

It’s still more painful because it was to the Bears, but I’m also fine with not hearing about “the streak” anymore. It was bound to end.

The upsetting part to me is not showing any momentum heading into the playoffs and a coach who was playing to win who still made egregiously bad in-game decisions that contributed to a loss in a game that he clearly cared about winning.

 

[OldSchool101]

If you want to talk about the clock tell me how in the world do you snap the ball with almost 20 seconds on the play clock on 3rd down before the McManus FG. I was at the bar watching so correct me if I am wrong on this. I fully expected them to let the play clock run down to 1 and take a timeout. At that time it was a 53 yard FG. Discuss whether you want to pick up another yard or 2 (QB sneak) and kick the FG or go for the 1st down. Absolutely brutal clock management as well as play call on 3rd down. I did not read thru this whole thread so I apologize if this has been discussed previously.

No I concur. I think it was an egregious error. Although I didn’t know it at the time I was only listening so hard to follow with all the excitement.

Not picking on you but I just had rewatched. It was 25 on the play clock. That would’ve left :23 seconds for Chicago because they had :48 seconds after Kick off.

That timeout 25 sec early cost us this game. It’s not even debatable. We dodged a bullet because it had no bearing on our seeding. But it shows a definite need to get a handle on that. A casual fan shouldn’t be telling our HC what to do and many online live noticed it.

 

[Sanguine camper]

Matt LaFleur on late-game clock mismanagement: ‘That falls on my shoulders’

"That’s on me. That can’t happen."

www.acmepackingcompany.com

You are an NFL head coach. You were down by 2 with 1 minute left in the game.

How were you and your special teams coach not on the same page as to the range of your kicker? You didn’t think to discuss that with him before 4th down?

The range for a kicker changes every game depending on the weather. It's obviously harder to kick in cold weather. That's one of the main reasons for pregame kicks to get an indication about range. The head coach, kicker and special teams coordinator should all be on the same page based upon pre game kicks.

 

[OldSchool101]

The other aspect. Did the 3 man rush work?

Who in here thinks Dan Campbell rushes 3?? Raise your hand

 

[Firethorn1001]

MN/DET game.. one of these fanbases is going to be upset over missed opportunities