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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GleefulGary" data-source="post: 764908" data-attributes="member: 12583">Nobody is saying he had a good year. But look at the context. Kizer was a very raw rookie who should have still been in college. So what did Hue Jackson (awful awful coach) do? He had Kizer run his full offense. Didn't dumb it down for him, he was running full tilt with an inexperienced team around him. Sure Josh Gordon is talented, but is he a leader? Nah. The Browns are full of talented players...but experienced leaders? Not so much. Don't discount how much that matters.Now let's compare that to how McCarthy handled Hundley. He hardly let Hundley throw further than 5 yards half the time. We ran a dumbed down, check down offense. I'm sure you can see the difference that would make for a QB. Kizer has a live arm, pretty solid mechanics, athletic, decent footwork, but needs to improve his reads. He showed more potential in a very difficult rookie year than Hundley did though, and I think he showed a lot more skill. So Kizer didn't have a good year by any means, but there wasn't anybody helping him out either.</blockquote>

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