Official Packers-Vikings week round one

[Gibbo100]

http://realsport101.com/realsport-roundtable-who-will-win-the-nfc-north/ this article suggests that if we beat the Vikings in our next 2 match ups we will look good to be on course to win the division.

Think we can beat them twice? im not convinced

 

[C-Lee]

http://realsport101.com/realsport-roundtable-who-will-win-the-nfc-north/ this article suggests that if we beat the Vikings in our next 2 match ups we will look good to be on course to win the division.

Think we can beat them twice? im not convinced

If we win Sunday, then I have full confidence we will beat them week 17.

 

[El Guapo]

There was 1 common denominator we can take away from the Pack vs Lions AND Texans vs Bengals ...
A good D performance can win a game even with poor O contribution.

We didn't learn that in Week 10. We learned that during our wins in Weeks 4, 5, and 6. Then we learned what poor D and poor O does to your chance of winning in Weeks 8, 9, and 10.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Jared Abbrederis (ribs/chest), Bryan Bulaga (knee) and T.J. Lang (shoulder) didn't practice today.

Aaron Rodgers (shoulder), David Bakhtiari (knee), Micah Hyde (hip), Clay Matthews (ankle/knee) and Josh Sitton (knee) limited participants.

Eddie Lacy and Ty Montgomery fully participated.

 

[Carl]

I don't see the Vikings being overconfident. This game is way too important for them. They win and they're in command of the NFC North for the first time in ages. They must be stoked as hell for this game.

Agreed. This is their biggest game since week 17 of 2012, about 2.5 years ago.

 

[C-Lee]

Aaron with a banged up shoulder. Nice.

 

[Packerlifer]

About that Vikqueens' record. http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/11/the-minnesota-vikings-are-the-most-overrated-team-in-the-nfl. The ball has certainly bounced their way this season; who they've played, where, when and how.

Their last 3 games could just as easily have turned into losses but for their opponent's ability to self-destruct. Last Sunday in Oakland the Raiders, trailing by 9, had a first and ten on the Vikes' 11 yd.line with over two minutes remaining. They didn't need to try forcing the pass that was intercepted in the end zone and could have closed up to a 2 pt deficit with time remaining for a winning field goal.

Instead, on the first play after the turnover, their defense got caught out of position on Adrian Peterson's 80 yd td burst. Earlier in the game they allowed a 93 yd kickoff return after moving ahead 14-13. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201511150rai.htm.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Vikings+vs+Raiders&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#sh=0

The previous week against St.Louis the Rams inexplicably opted to try for a two point conversion after a first quarter td brought them within 10-6. They didn't make it. Later in the game their kicker, who had made a 61 yd fg, missed a 48 yarder that would have given the Rams a fourth quarter lead. With those two turns the Rams left four points on the field in a game they lost by 3 in OT. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201511080min.htm.

Chicago had them down 20-13 with 2 minutes remaining but their safety whiffed on an open field tackle attempt on rookie wr Stefon Diggs, who turned the play into a 40 YAC td. to tie it. The Bears in the last seconds gave up a 35 yd. completion to one time Packers prospect Charles Johnson to set up the winning Minnesota field goal as time expired. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201511010chi.htm.

http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/...vs-Bears/f019f76e-782a-4d92-a228-7a19f94a80de

By rough calculation the Vikings are about 6 plays from being 4-5 by now. But give them credit. They have made some of those plays happen and certainly have been able to capitalize on opportunity when it has come their way. Unlike the Packers who have seen chances to win the last two weeks at the end of the game and haven't closed the deal.

http://purpleptsd.com/2015/11/06/writer-says-that-the-vikings-most-overrated-team-in-the-nfl/

Bill Parcells has famously said you are what your record says you are. However, before the Packers' Championship Game against the Giants in 1961 Vince Lombardi told a confidante he was confident his club would kill the Giants, "unless that ball bounces funny tomorrow." It didn't and the Packers won 37-0. But Vince did seem to suggest that sometimes chance or luck can intrude to turn a game or a season into a different result.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/min/2015.htm


So far under Mike Zimmer the Vikings have not won a game against a team with a winning record, last season or this. The unfortunate thing for the Packers this Sunday is that they are playing the kind of game that the Vikings have been winning this season.

 

[Mondio]

a lot of games come down to a few plays, but if you make them you're good and when you don't you stink. The Packers Stink right now. Until they play better, they can't expect any balls to bounce their way when they simply aren't making the plays right in front of them to make.

 

[Carl]

About that Vikqueens' record. http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/11/the-minnesota-vikings-are-the-most-overrated-team-in-the-nfl. The ball has certainly bounced their way this season; who they've played, where, when and how.

Their last 3 games could just as easily have turned into losses but for their opponent's ability to self-destruct. Last Sunday in Oakland the Raiders, trailing by 9, had a first and ten on the Vikes' 11 yd.line with over two minutes remaining. They didn't need to try forcing the pass that was intercepted in the end zone and could have closed up to a 2 pt deficit with time remaining for a winning field goal.

Instead, on the first play after the turnover, their defense got caught out of position on Adrian Peterson's 80 yd td burst. Earlier in the game they allowed a 93 yd kickoff return after moving ahead 14-13. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201511150rai.htm.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Vikings+vs+Raiders&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#sh=0

The previous week against St.Louis the Rams inexplicably opted to try for a two point conversion after a first quarter td brought them within 10-6. They didn't make it. Later in the game their kicker, who had made a 61 yd fg, missed a 48 yarder that would have given the Rams a fourth quarter lead. With those two turns the Rams left four points on the field in a game they lost by 3 in OT. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201511080min.htm.

Chicago had them down 20-13 with 2 minutes remaining but their safety whiffed on an open field tackle attempt on rookie wr Stefon Diggs, who turned the play into a 40 YAC td. to tie it. The Bears in the last seconds gave up a 35 yd. completion to one time Packers prospect Charles Johnson to set up the winning Minnesota field goal as time expired. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201511010chi.htm.

http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/...vs-Bears/f019f76e-782a-4d92-a228-7a19f94a80de

By rough calculation the Vikings are about 6 plays from being 4-5 by now. But give them credit. They have made some of those plays happen and certainly have been able to capitalize on opportunity when it has come their way. Unlike the Packers who have seen chances to win the last two weeks at the end of the game and haven't closed the deal.

http://purpleptsd.com/2015/11/06/writer-says-that-the-vikings-most-overrated-team-in-the-nfl/

Bill Parcells has famously said you are what your record says you are. However, before the Packers' Championship Game against the Giants in 1961 Vince Lombardi told a confidante he was confident his club would kill the Giants, "unless that ball bounces funny tomorrow." It didn't and the Packers won 37-0. But Vince did seem to suggest that sometimes chance or luck can intrude to turn a game or a season into a different result.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/min/2015.htm


So far under Mike Zimmer the Vikings have not won a game against a team with a winning record, last season or this. The unfortunate thing for the Packers this Sunday is that they are playing the kind of game that the Vikings have been winning this season.

Could probably say the same thing about almost any winning team in the league.

 

[PackerDNA]

I usually hold off until game day to pick games, but I don't see anything happening in the next few days that'll change things. A huge game at home for an up and coming rival with a defense capable of keeping Rodgers and co.'s slump going, coupled with a rb who usually destroys them.
Packers score late to make it look closer than it really is.
Vikings, 31-17

 

[Carl]

Packers win 26-22.

 

[Raptorman]

About that Vikqueens' record.

About that Packers record.

Teams they have both played in common

Vikings        Packers  
Detroit        Detroit
Detroit        Chicago
Chicago        Kansas City
Kansas City    San Diego
San Diego      St. Louis
St. Louis      Denver
Denver         San Fran
San Fran

The only teams the Packers have played so far the Vikings have not is Carolina and Seattle. And the Vikings play Seattle in the near future.

But let's talk about how the Vikings haven't played any good teams so far.

 

[Raptorman]

About that Vikqueens' record. http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/11/the-minnesota-vikings-are-the-most-overrated-team-in-the-nfl. The ball has certainly bounced their way this season; who they've played, where, when and how.

Their last 3 games could just as easily have turned into losses but for their opponent's ability to self-destruct. Last Sunday in Oakland the Raiders, trailing by 9, had a first and ten on the Vikes' 11 yd.line with over two minutes remaining. They didn't need to try forcing the pass that was intercepted in the end zone and could have closed up to a 2 pt deficit with time remaining for a winning field goal.

Instead, on the first play after the turnover, their defense got caught out of position on Adrian Peterson's 80 yd td burst. Earlier in the game they allowed a 93 yd kickoff return after moving ahead 14-13. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201511150rai.htm.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Vikings+vs+Raiders&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#sh=0

The previous week against St.Louis the Rams inexplicably opted to try for a two point conversion after a first quarter td brought them within 10-6. They didn't make it. Later in the game their kicker, who had made a 61 yd fg, missed a 48 yarder that would have given the Rams a fourth quarter lead. With those two turns the Rams left four points on the field in a game they lost by 3 in OT. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201511080min.htm.

Chicago had them down 20-13 with 2 minutes remaining but their safety whiffed on an open field tackle attempt on rookie wr Stefon Diggs, who turned the play into a 40 YAC td. to tie it. The Bears in the last seconds gave up a 35 yd. completion to one time Packers prospect Charles Johnson to set up the winning Minnesota field goal as time expired. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201511010chi.htm.

http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/...vs-Bears/f019f76e-782a-4d92-a228-7a19f94a80de

By rough calculation the Vikings are about 6 plays from being 4-5 by now. But give them credit. They have made some of those plays happen and certainly have been able to capitalize on opportunity when it has come their way. Unlike the Packers who have seen chances to win the last two weeks at the end of the game and haven't closed the deal.

http://purpleptsd.com/2015/11/06/writer-says-that-the-vikings-most-overrated-team-in-the-nfl/

Bill Parcells has famously said you are what your record says you are. However, before the Packers' Championship Game against the Giants in 1961 Vince Lombardi told a confidante he was confident his club would kill the Giants, "unless that ball bounces funny tomorrow." It didn't and the Packers won 37-0. But Vince did seem to suggest that sometimes chance or luck can intrude to turn a game or a season into a different result.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/min/2015.htm


So far under Mike Zimmer the Vikings have not won a game against a team with a winning record, last season or this. The unfortunate thing for the Packers this Sunday is that they are playing the kind of game that the Vikings have been winning this season.

I see you did a good job on the plays the teams the Vikings played left on the field. How about some of the plays the Vikings left on the Field. Like Rudolph's dropped pass in the end zone that cost them 4 points. Wait, that doesn't fit the agenda does it?

 

[sschind]

About that Vikqueens' record. http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/11/the-minnesota-vikings-are-the-most-overrated-team-in-the-nfl. The ball has certainly bounced their way this season; who they've played, where, when and how.

Their last 3 games could just as easily have turned into losses but for their opponent's ability to self-destruct. Last Sunday in Oakland the Raiders, trailing by 9, had a first and ten on the Vikes' 11 yd.line with over two minutes remaining. They didn't need to try forcing the pass that was intercepted in the end zone and could have closed up to a 2 pt deficit with time remaining for a winning field goal.

Instead, on the first play after the turnover, their defense got caught out of position on Adrian Peterson's 80 yd td burst. Earlier in the game they allowed a 93 yd kickoff return after moving ahead 14-13. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201511150rai.htm.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Vikings+vs+Raiders&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#sh=0

The previous week against St.Louis the Rams inexplicably opted to try for a two point conversion after a first quarter td brought them within 10-6. They didn't make it. Later in the game their kicker, who had made a 61 yd fg, missed a 48 yarder that would have given the Rams a fourth quarter lead. With those two turns the Rams left four points on the field in a game they lost by 3 in OT. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201511080min.htm.

Chicago had them down 20-13 with 2 minutes remaining but their safety whiffed on an open field tackle attempt on rookie wr Stefon Diggs, who turned the play into a 40 YAC td. to tie it. The Bears in the last seconds gave up a 35 yd. completion to one time Packers prospect Charles Johnson to set up the winning Minnesota field goal as time expired. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201511010chi.htm.

http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/...vs-Bears/f019f76e-782a-4d92-a228-7a19f94a80de

By rough calculation the Vikings are about 6 plays from being 4-5 by now. But give them credit. They have made some of those plays happen and certainly have been able to capitalize on opportunity when it has come their way. Unlike the Packers who have seen chances to win the last two weeks at the end of the game and haven't closed the deal.

http://purpleptsd.com/2015/11/06/writer-says-that-the-vikings-most-overrated-team-in-the-nfl/

Bill Parcells has famously said you are what your record says you are. However, before the Packers' Championship Game against the Giants in 1961 Vince Lombardi told a confidante he was confident his club would kill the Giants, "unless that ball bounces funny tomorrow." It didn't and the Packers won 37-0. But Vince did seem to suggest that sometimes chance or luck can intrude to turn a game or a season into a different result.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/min/2015.htm


So far under Mike Zimmer the Vikings have not won a game against a team with a winning record, last season or this. The unfortunate thing for the Packers this Sunday is that they are playing the kind of game that the Vikings have been winning this season.

How many plays are the Packers away from being 4-5, or worse. You can probably take away 3 or 4 wins from every team by changing the outcome of 6 selected plays. You might be able to say they were 6 plays away from from 8-1 or even 9-0. Certainly 1 or 2 plays could have won them the Broncos game and who knows about the 17 point loss to the 49ers to open the season.

The bottom line is the vikings have done something the last three weeks that the Packers haven't done and that is win.

 

[Raptorman]

How many plays are the Packers away from being 4-5, or worse. You can probably take away 3 or 4 wins from every team by changing the outcome of 6 selected plays. You might be able to say they were 6 plays away from from 8-1 or even 9-0. Certainly 1 or 2 plays could have won them the Broncos game and who knows about the 17 point loss to the 49ers to open the season.

The bottom line is the vikings have done something the last three weeks that the Packers haven't done and that is win.

Every game is decided by less than 8 plays. Change those 8 plays and you can change the outcome of the game. You just have to know which 8 they are. It's winning those 8 or so plays that makes the difference between winning an losing.

 

[OldSchool101]

It's true. We were a 50 yard FG from a W last week. As ugly as we played in O. We statistically should have won.
This weeks game is a threshold game.. We either shoot up dramatically or spin into a free fall .. There's a very thin margin in between. I'm not sure why but I feel like we can win because we're finally not expected to?
Go Pack Go!!!

 

[rodell330]

I predict AP runs for over a buck fifty. Our mlbs are absolutely garbage....GARBAGE. Mise well start that Ryan fella because there are a lot of guys in nFL practice squads better at mlb than what lines up for us.

 

[Carl]

I predict AP runs for over a buck fifty. Our mlbs are absolutely garbage....GARBAGE. Mise well start that Ryan fella because there are a lot of guys in nFL practice squads better at mlb than what lines up for us.

Can you name the better practice squad players you are referring to?

 

[ExpatPacker]

Too much is not going right to have a lot of confidence in a Packer victory this Sunday. Ty Montgomgery's seemingly incurable ankle sprain, Davante Adams not being the answer, drops, inaccurate throws, poor pass protection, Lacy's falling into a black hole, now Rodgers' bad shoulder.

Credit the defense for playing like it should against the Lions, and I think the Packer offense will play better but I don't think it will be enough.

Vikings 27 Packers 20. A Cordarelle Patterson runback for a TD or deep into Packer territory will be the difference.

After this week's game is when I believe that the Packers will either start turning it around and will go 4-2 for the rest of the way, or their season will turn into a bust. I believe it will be the former.

 

[El Guapo]

Can you name the better practice squad players you are referring to?

I guarantee there will be an offseason thread dedicated to why we should pay FA $$ to all of these better practice squad players

 

[OldSchool101]

I predict AP runs for over a buck fifty. Our mlbs are absolutely garbage....GARBAGE. Mise well start that Ryan fella because there are a lot of guys in nFL practice squads better at mlb than what lines up for us.

Is this Larry the Cable guy? Lol

 

[Poppa San]

I predict AP runs for over a buck fifty. Our mlbs are absolutely garbage....GARBAGE. Mise well start that Ryan fella because there are a lot of guys in nFL practice squads better at mlb than what lines up for us.

Might get buck fifty, that Gurley guy did. IIRC he got a lot late during garbage time vs prevent defense.

 

[PackerDNA]

I guarantee there will be an offseason thread dedicated to why we should pay FA $$ to all of these better practice squad players

I think that with all the people we have up for free agency the next two seasons and the areas that need improvement on this team, not only will free agency be a topic in the off season, it should be.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

The only part of Free Agency that ever is a topic (or should be) in GB is "what guys do we keep?" Speculating on guys that we would like to see TT sign off other teams is like talking about Unicorns.

*patiently awaits a photoshopped picture of a Unicorn wearing a #56 Packer Jersey*

 

[PackerDNA]

No, it's not. It's fair game in a forum such as this. As in, "will TT take advantage of all the tools in the box?". Or, why bring back all the guys who haven't been good enough to get you to the promised land.