MVS reminds me of Javon Walker

[GleefulGary]

Calling a guy that we all knew was raw coming into the season a bust after 8 games is really something.

I’m not going to define that something because I’d like to be able to continue posting here in the future.

 

[Favre>Rodgers259]

how are moore and janis being compared? he's having trouble with his hands, I guess that's similar to Janis. But also similar to Jordy at one point and Jones. Other than that they don't compare at all. Moore can run routes and looks natural doing it. Janis could run fast.

I never said they were identical, I'm just calling what I believe to be their perceived situations similar. Janis could run fast, not much else. Moore can run routes and separate, but can't catch. We're potentially going to invest years into seeing if he turns the corner, and potentially all for naught.

Calling a guy that we all knew was raw coming into the season a bust after 8 games is really something.

I’m not going to define that something because I’d like to be able to continue posting here in the future.

I'm calling a spade a spade. I played the WR position. I had a case of the drops for a season; well actually a quarter of the season because my HC wasn't going to stand for games literally being dropped through my hands. Guess what happened? I was relegated to Free Safety. In the NFL, you get relegated to the couch.


3-4 years from now, when Moore is out of the league remember these posts.

 

[GleefulGary]

Perhaps you’re right and he will be out of the league. That doesn’t mean your reasoning is sound. I don’t care that you played WR in HS, it’s meaningless. Just be patient, bruh.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Moore is more of a davantae type receiver than EQ or MVS. EQ is likely going to replace Cobb as more of a slot receiver and MVS is more of a one trick pony right now he's good deep but doesn't offer much else. Moore should develop into that guy like davantae that can do it all he's not a burner but he can get deep. He has elite quickness and like davantae this should allow him to win early vs man coverage something mvs and eq struggle with

I would love for Moore to end up performing on a level with Adams but consider that to be an unrealistic expectation.

 

[Jerellh528]

Moore is more of a davantae type receiver than EQ or MVS. EQ is likely going to replace Cobb as more of a slot receiver and MVS is more of a one trick pony right now he's good deep but doesn't offer much else. Moore should develop into that guy like davantae that can do it all he's not a burner but he can get deep. He has elite quickness and like davantae this should allow him to win early vs man coverage something mvs and eq struggle with

I’ve seen some diversity out of mvs, sure he excels in that go route of his, but he’s definitely a bit more than a one trick pony.Another offseason of preparation and syncing with Rodgers and that man has some serious potential. I already consider him better on the outside for our offense than Geronimo

 

[Jerellh528]

I would love for Moore to end up performing on a level with Adams but consider that to be an unrealistic expectation.

Yea, James Jones is probably a ceiling comparison for Moore moreso than Adams

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Yea, James Jones is probably a ceiling comparison for Moore moreso than Adams

It would definitely be great if Moore ends up having a career like Jones.

 

[thequick12]

Yea, James Jones is probably a ceiling comparison for Moore moreso than Adams

I wasn't saying he's gonna be as good as davantae. I was saying they are similar type receivers. Neither is super fast but they are fast enough and coupled with their elite quickness and suddenness in and out of breaks they can win at the line of scrimmage. Have you seen mvs run any slant routes? I would guess when Moore gets on the field like davantae you'll see him excel on that slant route. Which by the way used to be the Packers signature route. As far as James Jones maybe that is his ceiling as far as production but Moore and Jones are not similar athletically at all. James Jones dreamed of being the athlete that Moore is. Jones won because of his chemistry with favre and then Rodgers he was always where they expected him to be, not because of his athletic skill set hopefully Moore can win with both.
And yes I agree calling mvs a one trick pony was a bit too harsh. I just me right now he's pretty much a go route I do see him developing his game and he's made some nice plays. I think he can be a starter in the league I guess he already is with Allison now on ir. I definitely like him on the field better than Allison. Although ironically at this point I'm not sure I wouldn't rather have Allison on the field than Cobb. Cobb just looks slow out there I'm assuming he's still dealing with injury

 

[Mondio]

I never said they were identical, I'm just calling what I believe to be their perceived situations similar. Janis could run fast, not much else. Moore can run routes and separate, but can't catch. We're potentially going to invest years into seeing if he turns the corner, and potentially all for naught.



I'm calling a spade a spade. I played the WR position. I had a case of the drops for a season; well actually a quarter of the season because my HC wasn't going to stand for games literally being dropped through my hands. Guess what happened? I was relegated to Free Safety. In the NFL, you get relegated to the couch.


3-4 years from now, when Moore is out of the league remember these posts.

Go ahead, as long as you remember all the ones where you were "wrong" too LOL

I don't know what Moore is going to be. I know didn't catch the ball well enough in the preseason and reportedly in practice to stay ahead of MVS or EB on the depth chart. But he did move well on the field. That was there for everyone to see that was watching. Maybe his hands get it, he would not be the first receiver to have to work on it, or maybe he doesn't and he wouldn't be the first receiver to not make it in the league despite athletic ability. I'm making no proclamation if he's going to be a stud or not. But just as injury seemed to affect Adams mentally his 2nd year and he couldn't catch, maybe the NFL has Moore thinking too much and it's affecting his ability to catch. Maybe he just can't catch. Maybe he gets it, maybe he doesn't. I suppose you were one of those that wrote Devante off too? Said Jones wouldn't make it? Think back a few years. How many players have you written off a few weeks into a season only to see them make it later? Be honest LOL

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I know didn't catch the ball well enough in the preseason and reportedly in practice to stay ahead of MVS or EB on the depth chart. But he did move well on the field. That was there for everyone to see that was watching. Maybe his hands get it, he would not be the first receiver to have to work on it, or maybe he doesn't and he wouldn't be the first receiver to not make it in the league despite athletic ability. But just as injury seemed to affect Adams mentally his 2nd year and he couldn't catch, maybe the NFL has Moore thinking too much and it's affecting his ability to catch. Maybe he just can't catch. Maybe he gets it, maybe he doesn't.

It's possible that Moore improves his hands in the NFL but he had the same issues in college as well dropping 24 of 173 catchable balls thrown his way.

 

[Mondio]

I don't even know who these guys are in college anymore. They must have figured he had a focus issue, something they could work on like Jones did, and figured it was worth a risk to see if he could get it because everything else up to the point of making the catch was really pretty good for any NFL receiver, let a long a rookie.

 

[LambeauLombardi]

Javon was a beast before the ACL injury. He seemed to hate Favre for whatever reason.

 

[easyk83]

I thought deceptively fast was reserved for any white guy who ran under a 4.8 40.

Jordy used to get that title even when he was flat out burning people. Its kinda like when black players are called "instinctive," but rarely intelligent or cerebral.

 

[easyk83]

I would love for Moore to end up performing on a level with Adams but consider that to be an unrealistic expectation.

If one of St Brown, Brown or MVS develop into a legit 1, 2 receiver that pick grouping should be looked at as a home run. If two or even all three develop that pick grouping will be, well you get the point. The three together have a projected draft value of a mid 4th round pick.

 

[Snoops]

I kinda feel like if we let Cobb walk we should get a small fast twitchy receiver everyone else we would be left with is big tall guys not saying that’s bad but someone really really fast and twitchy would be good