Maybe he could bring Mcafee with him too.AJ is only 36, he might still be able to suit up!
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Amazing how early he retired and he is still only 33. I guess all his knee issues caught up to him, but yeah, he was a really good punter!
I still have hope for JK Scott, but its not looking good over the last season and a half. Much like a place kicker with the yips, he seems to have the talent, but something isn't clicking for him.
Mcafee could tackle too.
gbgary
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the improvement in the D since "the talk" has probably saved pettine his job.
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Jim Schwartz intends to allow his contract to expire and take a year off from coaching in 2021 as he contemplates retirement, per Rapoport.
Obviously, I hope the Packers win the Super Bowl, thus all but guaranteeing Pettine will be the DC in 2021. However, if the Packers fall short, would Schwartz be a guy we might be interested in?
It's easy to talk retirement when you are on a lousy team. But if he could be the difference in winning Super Bowls complimented by a high powered Green Bay offense, he might be intrigued by that.
Not advocating for it one way or the other, just throwing it out there for discussion purposes. Going with Schwartz would involve allocating some additional defensive resources to giving him what he needs up front to run the 4-3. It might be smarter, if it were to come down to it, to find an up and comer that can use the personnel we currently have and maximize it.
Obviously, I hope the Packers win the Super Bowl, thus all but guaranteeing Pettine will be the DC in 2021. However, if the Packers fall short, would Schwartz be a guy we might be interested in?
It's easy to talk retirement when you are on a lousy team. But if he could be the difference in winning Super Bowls complimented by a high powered Green Bay offense, he might be intrigued by that.
Not advocating for it one way or the other, just throwing it out there for discussion purposes. Going with Schwartz would involve allocating some additional defensive resources to giving him what he needs up front to run the 4-3. It might be smarter, if it were to come down to it, to find an up and comer that can use the personnel we currently have and maximize it.
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I'd put this right up there with the "Is Lovie Smith a viable candidate?" I think both Lovie and Schwartz are very talented defensive coaches, but I would question how much gas each still has in their tanks. Yes, there are examples of ex HC's making great coordinators, but I would rather start with a young, eager and upcoming mind, then take on another old tire, hoping its still got some life in the treads.
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I’m no expert on defensive schemes but it seems to me that changing to a 4-3 defense would be an unwise undertaking at this time which would require wholesale personnel changes. I don’t think we’re in a position to do that right now being cap squeezed like we are.
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Schwartz has had some success as a defensive coordinator but has hardly gad enough to consider it a good idea to talk him out of retirement to take the Packers job.
I agree with Poker that a young, upcoming guy is the way to go if they want to replace Pettine.
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I agree the Lions didn't have a ton of talent between 2009 and '13 but his overall record of 29-51 is pedestrian at best.
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if the team falls short or one and done due to letting the opponent **** and dunk us to death and run lowry over - which I expect - I can see MLF turning the page on Pettine and his conservative offense-reliant ways.
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Agreed. Anything short of a Super Bowl appearance and I think Pettine is toast.
I must admit that I get very tired of watching opposing QBs that have been proven to be rattled under pressure be allowed to dump off the ball to wide open receivers because Kevin King has been told to give a 10+ yard cushion on everybody he is covering.
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Then he doubles down by trying to tackle with his head or shoulder. No wonder the guy gets hurt alot. While the defense is looking better, I still saw way too many missed tackles and most due to the defender not using his arms to wrap up around the ball carrier. I put that and the playing too far off on coaching.
On a bright note, I think Sullivan is slowly playing himself into Kings spot next year.
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I want to believe Sullivan can play outside but I just dont see it. Hope I am wrong.
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Over the last 9 games, since the Vikings loss the defense has only had one bad game - the Colts. They have weathered the third quarter offensive draughts pretty well. The gave up more than 20 just 2 other times. They gave up 25 to the Bears when the Bears scored two 4th quarter tds in a game that was 41-10 at the end of the 3rd quarter. Defense played well that night. The other was 24 points to the Lions in a game where the offense did its hibernation thing but the defense played tough in the second half allowing 7 points until a late fg. They averaged giving up 20 ppg over the last 9. I would assume that would be enough to win most games since we scored under 22 just once all season.
Dont get me wrong I see the liabilities of this defense. Our interior dline outside of Clark isnt not good. Lancaster and Lowry struggle. Our ilb are improving but still have issues. Pettine allows teams to throw easy pass with soft coverage too often.
I also see the positives. The secondary is very good. King is a whipping boy here but he is pretty solid in coverage. Jaire is insane and our safeties are really good. The OLB position has been solidified with the play of Gary and Preston waking up. This isnt an elite defense but it is one that can be good enough to win a Super Bowl.
Dont get me wrong I see the liabilities of this defense. Our interior dline outside of Clark isnt not good. Lancaster and Lowry struggle. Our ilb are improving but still have issues. Pettine allows teams to throw easy pass with soft coverage too often.
I also see the positives. The secondary is very good. King is a whipping boy here but he is pretty solid in coverage. Jaire is insane and our safeties are really good. The OLB position has been solidified with the play of Gary and Preston waking up. This isnt an elite defense but it is one that can be good enough to win a Super Bowl.
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He’s too slow to play outside, imo.
If you can see that, the coaches must see it. If this keeps happening, it suggests that the players aren't being held accountable.
Pokerbrat2000
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"Held accountable"? Do you mean benched or made to do pushups, run laps etc.? I don't think the Packers are deep enough at CB to afford benching him. I guess his new contract with a team will be how he is held accountable?
I have to think King is being instructed to play off of his man at the LOS. Which is fine, if he was a better tackler. Why he and a few other players don't seem to wrap up better on tackles, I have no clue.
This was a good summary of King IMO. Also, I stand corrected on calling Sullivan "King's replacement". Chandon has played well enough to be the 3rd or slot CB.
Kevin King’s struggles have the Packers singing the Boundary Corner Blues - Acme Packing Company
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Or the coach actually thinks that playing off is the correct decision where he is concerned. I know a lot of us disagree with that assessment, but I also know that we don’t see everything they do.
King has injury again, I believe it is hindering him
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I googled "Injury Prone", and this popped up.
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Fact checkers labeled this as false
why?
No pic shows up but it is still true
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Pokerbrat2000
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I may have "embellished" on the caption a bit.
Glad I didn't hang my "News Reporter" shingle today!
gbgary
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MLF directly adressed the soft coverage on short yardage situations that everyone is so frustrated with. he doesn't like it either. the D is much better as a whole though. I think he's probably back next year.
