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Can we move to the AFC East?NY Jets. I'll be surprised if there are 30k fans at both Buffalo/Jets games as they battle for the bottom.

Can we move to the AFC East?NY Jets. I'll be surprised if there are 30k fans at both Buffalo/Jets games as they battle for the bottom.
Plus, all of our current backups except Barclay are young and still developing. There are always some position group vulnerability scenarios. It goes with the territory in a 32 team league, 16 game season and 53 man roster. I think I'll probably feel comfortable with our 53 man roster. The future also looks very bright with 11 more draft picks heading our way. Things look good from this angle.OL depth is a concern for most teams in the league. I think it gets overly hyped every year. Starters are starters for a reason just as backups are backups for a reason. We have a pretty good track record of coaching OL'men up so that gives me a little comfort.
Is Mike Lynn on our forum?Can we just trade Clay Matthews and our next 3 first round draft picks for Von Miller or Khalil Mack?![]()
Sad part is we are paying him to be a Von Miller or Khalil Mack.Can we just trade Clay Matthews and our next 3 first round draft picks for Von Miller or Khalil Mack?![]()
Sad part is we are paying him to be a Von Miller or Khalil Mack.
Sad but true. If we can get 16 games
Out of Matthews, and at least 8 sacks I'd be ok with that at his current salary . All that means thomis that he'll get hurt in the playoffs haha
Plus, all of our current backups except Barclay are young and still developing.
Unless, all the stars and Moons align, Matthews really can't be counted on to be a full time starter all season long. Nor can he give you a large snap count in those games he plays (46.26% last year) Pretty much goes for Perry too as far as games and snap counts (58.6%).
How many were screaming 2 years ago to cut Davante Adams immediately, or T.J. Lange, who sucked his first 2 years? Who wanted to run James Jones out of town about 5 years ago? How many were begging for a replacement for Bahktiarri after his rookie year? Likely the same people wanting to cut Spriggs, and Fackrell right now. Given the salary cap, free agency, drafting late every year, and seeing that the whole system is set up for parity, it's amazing to make the playoffs 8 years straight. I think the Packers personnel people know better than we do how to run a football team in the NFL.
Those numbers are calculated based on the percentage of the total defensive snaps of the entire regular season though.
Correct and I should have clarified that, thanks for pointing it out. For comparison, Von Miller played in 81% of the defensive snaps for the Broncos last year. Guess what I am still trying to say, neither Perry or Matthews alone are going to be enough and last year it took Peppers and Jones, along with Elliott and Fackrell to pick up the slack. Brooks definitely helps, but will he be enough? Guess we will wait and see.
There's no doubt the Packers would hugely benefit from both Matthews and Perry being able to play a significantly higher amount of snaps this season. Unfortunately I'm not convinced that's going to happen though.
There's no doubt the Packers would hugely benefit from both Matthews and Perry being able to play a significantly higher amount of snaps this season. Unfortunately I'm not convinced that's going to happen though.
The Brooks pickup was significantly important for that very reason, but I still am left wondering if it will be enough.
I don't know either but let me put it this way, the Packers having signed Brooks makes me feel more comfortable about the outside linebacker position entering this season.
Agreed. I doubt we see another OLB picked up, unless we aren't getting the full story on Matthews, Perry and to some extent Biegel. At this point, I expect very little from Biegel in 2017, he has missed way too much time. I would actually be fine with it if they could (by the rules) IR him and see what happens. Which may very well happen after the PUP time frame is over.
I've seen a lot of this associative reasoning around lately. It's not necessary; you can simply say that he deserves more time without putting in the associations, but on the point of those associations, most of them are not valid.How many were screaming 2 years ago to cut Davante Adams immediately, or T.J. Lange, who sucked his first 2 years? Who wanted to run James Jones out of town about 5 years ago? How many were begging for a replacement for Bahktiarri after his rookie year? Likely the same people wanting to cut Spriggs, and Fackrell right now. Given the salary cap, free agency, drafting late every year, and seeing that the whole system is set up for parity, it's amazing to make the playoffs 8 years straight. I think the Packers personnel people know better than we do how to run a football team in the NFL.
Does anyone know if Brooks will count against a compensatory pick
I read your whole post and was a little bit amused at the way you listed a string of facts about several eventually successful Packer players, and then stated as fact that Spriggs does not fit that model. Other than saying that you don't like him, you really don't support your argument with any facts. I'm not sure what I think about Spriggs yet, but I think it's still too early to be so certain.I've seen a lot of this associative reasoning around lately. It's not necessary; you can simply say that he deserves more time without putting in the associations, but on the point of those associations, most of them are not valid.
-Adams had a really good rookie year. People were calling for his release during his second year and in the offseason before last year, but that was dumb because of the awesome potential he showed as a rookie.
-T.J. Lang was not drafted as highly as Spriggs (4th round) and thus did not have the protection via draft status yet and he also started right away and played well enough to stick around. He showed potential, but was thrown in raw and built his skill up from there.
-Jones was a veteran who had lost his step and was suffering from bad hands at the time that most people wanted him gone. He came back and was really good for a year (or was it two), but 1) he had already made the case for why he should be around earlier in his career, and 2) he came back cheap. As a veteran non top option, that's important.
-Bahk was fantastic his first year given that he was a rookie who started pretty quickly and never played poorly enough to lose his job. Granted, part of that was due to a lack of depth behind him, but part of that was also that he got better game over game to the point where he is now a franchise Tackle.
None of those guys correlate to Spriggs, who was drafted highly (easily too highly, but lets forget that) due to athleticism, and has quite literally regressed pretty much every minute he has been in the league. I dont like him, and I dont think he will develop, and I wish that we had literally anybody better to fill his spot on the depth chart. I would bet you money that if there were an injury that put Spriggs in a starting role the team would either find anyone else at FA or possibly even trade for a "good enough" tackle so that Spriggs didn't have to see the field. The only positive thing I can say about him is that last game he went from getting worse to just staying as bad as he was. He looked like MAYBE he might have some skill, instead of being a guy juicing in college and not juicing now, but what he isn't is in any way comparable to the guys you listed above.
writes opinion piece about associative reasoningI read your whole post and was a little bit amused at the way you listed a string of facts about several eventually successful Packer players, and then stated as fact that Spriggs does not fit that model. Other than saying that you don't like him, you really don't support your argument with any facts. I'm not sure what I think about Spriggs yet, but I think it's still too early to be so certain.
lol.... that was my point exactly.... While I respect your right to an opinion, I didn't find it very persuasive because even though you spent a very long time laying a foundation, once you finally stated your opinion, you gave me no reasons why Spriggs was so different than the examples you cited.writes opinion piece about associative reasoning
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