Lane Taylor

[Curly Calhoun]

While it's true the Packers don't have to spend all of their cap space Thompson should take more risk in this area as well.

Over the last five years only seven teams have rolled over more combined cap space into next season with the Niners being the only one out of that group to have won a playoff game. FWIW the only reason San Francisco made the list is because they didn't use $38.7 million of cap space last season while going 2-14.

If the threshold is "to have won a playoff game", Green Bay is obviously meeting that standard. The won two last year alone.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

If the threshold is "to have won a playoff game", Green Bay is obviously meeting that standard. The won two last year alone.

Winning a playoff game isn't a threshold. What I wanted to point out is that teams that roll over more money than the Packers aren't successful and mostly in a rebuilding phase.

 

[Curly Calhoun]

Winning a playoff game isn't a threshold. What I wanted to point out is that teams that roll over more money than the Packers aren't successful and mostly in a rebuilding phase.

It's no secret Ted does things differently from most GMs. It's also no secret that Green Bay, in addition to being financially solvent, is also one of the most successful franchises in the NFL during his run as General Manager. He's a popular punching bag around these parts, rivaled perhaps only by Dom Capers, but the truth is he's done a pretty good job and puts Green Bay in a position to compete every year. He's not perfect, but he's not bad either.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

It's no secret Ted does things differently from most GMs. It's also no secret that Green Bay, in addition to being financially solvent, is also one of the most successful franchises in the NFL during his run as General Manager. He's a popular punching bag around these parts, rivaled perhaps only by Dom Capers, but the truth is he's done a pretty good job and puts Green Bay in a position to compete every year. He's not perfect, but he's not bad either.

There's no doubt the Packers have been successful during Thompson's tenure in Green Bay. Having only won a single Super Bowl while having a generational talent at quarterback is disappointing nevertheless.

 

[Curly Calhoun]

There's no doubt the Packers have been successful during Thompson's tenure in Green Bay. Having only won a single Super Bowl while having a generational talent at quarterback is disappointing nevertheless.

Could be worse. Think New Orleans Saints.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Could be worse. Think New Orleans Saints.

Could be way better. Think New England Patriots.

 

[Curly Calhoun]

Could be way better. Think New England Patriots.

True. They seem to be the exception to the rule.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

True. They seem to be the exception to the rule.

Yet exactly what the Packers should strive for.

 

[Curly Calhoun]

Yet exactly what the Packers should strive for.

I would think there are 31 teams striving for that.

 

[swhitset]

I would think there are 31 teams striving for that.

I used to believe that.... but frankly when certain teams are perennial losers You have to start thinking that winning isn't really a priority.

 

[Poppa San]

Over the last five years only seven teams have rolled over more combined cap space into next season

TWEET. Foul. That is just BAD math. Say for instance, Ted rolled over $10m the first year. Every year after that he spends that season's exact salary cap. Say $152m in a season with $152m salary cap (plus rollover.) 5 years later he didn't have $50m in salary cap not spent. He still had $10m. If he had rolled $80k over in year one instead, he would be lauded for his cap management of spending the cap but not exceeding it in any season. His rainy day fund is a one time spending spree, not an accruing account. Another way of looking at it is to add up the league salary cap for all the seasons. Subtract all the team cap costs for those same seasons. How much does he have left?

 

[PikeBadger]

I used to believe that.... but frankly when certain teams are perennial losers You have to start thinking that winning isn't really a priority.

I disagree. The first week of free agency has huge money chasing a lot of guys and it's coming from a lot of different directions. The perennial losers haven't figured out how to put the puzzle together yet.

 

[swhitset]

I disagree. The first week of free agency has huge money chasing a lot of guys and it's coming from a lot of different directions. The perennial losers haven't figured out how to put the puzzle together yet.

As I said I used to believe that.....

 

[Half Empty]

I would think there are 31 teams striving for that.

But I, and I assume most posters, only care about one of those 31 - where the other 30 finish year to year is no concern of mine.

 

[Half Empty]

I used to believe that.... but frankly when certain teams are perennial losers You have to start thinking that winning isn't really a priority.

And, many of those teams offer a quick comeback to those here who throw out the "so you think you could do better than the real coaches/GMs?".

 

[PikeBadger]

As I said I used to believe that.....

I think all 32 are genuinely trying to win. It's a tough code to crack.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I would think there are 31 teams striving for that.

While that's true none of the other teams has a generational talent starting at quarterback for them.

 

[Curly Calhoun]

While that's true none of the other teams has a generational talent starting at quarterback for them.

Drew Brees has been pretty good.

 

[Arthur Squires]

Taylor could earn himself a big payday if he has another stand up season this year. Big for a former UDFA anyway!

 

[Deleted member 6794]

TWEET. Foul. That is just BAD math. Say for instance, Ted rolled over $10m the first year. Every year after that he spends that season's exact salary cap. Say $152m in a season with $152m salary cap (plus rollover.) 5 years later he didn't have $50m in salary cap not spent. He still had $10m. If he had rolled $80k over in year one instead, he would be lauded for his cap management of spending the cap but not exceeding it in any season. His rainy day fund is a one time spending spree, not an accruing account. Another way of looking at it is to add up the league salary cap for all the seasons. Subtract all the team cap costs for those same seasons. How much does he have left?

You're right about it that it doesn't make any sense to combine the rolled over money for the reasons you stated. Even with additional cap space the Packers have mostly ranked in the middle of the pack in used cap space since 2011 though.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Drew Brees has been pretty good.

Brees has never been as dominant as Rodgers though.

 

[Curly Calhoun]

Brees has never been as dominant as Rodgers though.

Probably not, but he's not that far behind either.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Probably not, but he's not that far behind either.

Even if that's true, which I don't agree with, you made a case for only one out of the other 30 teams.

 

[Half Empty]

Could be worse. Think New Orleans Saints.

Don't follow. IF we go with Brees as a generational talent, the Saints and Pack both have one SB victory. Same, not worse.

 

[kevans74]

There was a hint in this article that Sitton wasn't a great locker room guy, just an FYI...

http://www.espn.com/blog/green-bay-...ackers-o-line-in-good-hands-with-james-campen