Jared Abbrederis

[Jordyruns]

Cobb was the 5th receiver his rookie year and still had some impact, mostly in the 5 receiver sets. I'd expect a similar impact if both Janis and Abby stay healthy and prove to be relatively talented.

I'm excited to see what Janis can do on KO with a year under his belt and a shingles free camp.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Cobb was the 5th receiver his rookie year and still had some impact, mostly in the 5 receiver sets. I'd expect a similar impact if both Janis and Abby stay healthy and prove to be relatively talented.

I'm excited to see what Janis can do on KO with a year under his belt and a shingles free camp.

I don´t expect the Packers to line up in a lot of four or five receiver sets next season.

 

[sschind]

There were reports of him impressing during camp, for what that is worth... as well as making plays on Tramon.

I would like to see him on the field for those 4 or 5 wide sets as he would have a significant advantage over who he was matched up with.

In college he was literally the only passing option in the offense. Not to mention some of his QBs were forgettable

Of course he can. MM is on record stating that he is excited about what Janis can bring to the team next year.

there are reports of almost every player impressing in camp. Its not worth much IMO


Honestly I don't expect much production from Abbredaris, Janis or White in the WR department. They may provide solid depth but I don't see any of them being more than the 6th receiving option at best (behind the 3 starters, Lacy and whomever we have at TE) on any given play. 20 catches would be a very big year for any of them.

Of course if those 20 catches went for 19 first downs and 4 TDs I'd be more than happy with that.

 

[GoPGo]

As of right now the Packers have six receivers on the roster with Abbrederis, Janis and White at the bottom of the depth chart. There's no doubt in my mind that Abbrederis is the most talented one out of this group, the question mark is his ability to stay healthy. Janis, White or others being added before the season will get a chance to battle for that spot though.

It doesn't matter how talented a guy may or may not be if he can't stay on the practice field. His problem is he sorely needs to put some meat on his bones. He has a high school build at this point and I think injury is going to be an ongoing problem for him until he eats a sandwich or two.

I can recall you vividly proclaiming that Janis will have an impact as a rookie, how did that work out???

All I said is that he would make the team back when you brazenly proclaimed he wouldn't, and that worked out quite well. All that needs to be said about him is that the Packers put him on their regular roster specifically because they knew he wouldn't last long on the practice squad. They wouldn't do that if they didn't think he was a keeper.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

All I said is that he would make the team back when you brazenly proclaimed he wouldn't, and that worked out quite well. All that needs to be said about him is that the Packers put him on their regular roster specifically because they knew he wouldn't last long on the practice squad. They wouldn't do that if they didn't think he was a keeper.

Here´s what you posted after Janis had an amazing catch in practice during training camp:

http://blog.packers.com/2014/08/06/jeff-janis-excites-crowd-with-one-handed-touchdown-catch/

This kid is going to be a stud. Jordy 2.0.

Taking a look back at the 2014 season I think he still has a long way to go before achieving that.

 

[tynimiller]

I would also state that those stating they don't expect much from Janis/Abb/White or a draftee is something to me is like a common sense John Madden quote.

With the WRs they have infront of them their numbers won't jump out or be very measurable...however that doesn't mean their grooming and potential doesn't continue to happen and grow...

 

[SoonerPack]

Really? I just don't know. I hope I'm wrong because it's good for the Packers if I am and eventhough I'm not a Badger fan I do like the idea of this walk-on UW player making it on my favorite team's roster. Especially at that position.

It worked out pretty well for all parties with a previous walk-on playing wideout for us...Jordy Nelson.

 

[HardRightEdge]

I don´t expect the Packers to line up in a lot of four or five receiver sets next season.

If the talent is there, they will. Otherwise, they'll do like last year...use a TE in 4 wide or go with 4 WR but not throw the ball to the #4.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Of course he can. MM is on record stating that he is excited about what Janis can bring to the team next year.

Yeah, and he also said Janis needs to "improve his catch radius". I don't think it's generally understood what that means.

 

[Packer Fan in SD]

I followed Abby (Badger fan here) and he could be our number 4 WR if he stays healthy. Runs good routes and has good hands. I would like to see him put on a little weight but he is a fearless receiver. He will give us something to use as a fourth in a four receiver set, and although that may not be used a lot, it gives a better option than last year.

He has shown to be a smart player and if he earns a spot will contribute. That could be getting first downs when needed, but everything is predicated on him being healthy. I certainly do not put him in a "Jordy-Cobb" category, but he will make some plays and contribute if he comes back fine. There is talent there. It all depends on how he returns and if he can stay healthy. I would love to see him be our 4th receiver. Not just for four receiver sets but also spelling any of the top three for a play or two at a time during games (or God forbid, any injury to those above him on the depth chart).

 

[ivo610]

I would not be surprised to see him be the best non starting WR in the league in 2016

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Although Abbrederis did not play due to injury last year, it did not preclude him from studying the playbook, film, talking to coaches, etc. So I really don't view him coming in this year as a first year guy. Jared has great hands, is a quick learner, hard worker and fearless down the middle. As long as he stays healthy (his biggest question mark IMO) he will contribute what he is allowed to. Whether its at the #4 or #5 and/or KR, he is going to put it all out on the field.

 

[Uncle Rico]

Frontrunner? How so? They're not just going to give him the #4 spot because he is healthy. He'll have to earn it like anyone else. I'm pretty sure the Packers don't give two ***** where he went to school, which seems to be a big source of the hype surrounding him on this forum, so they're NOT going to christen him just because it might make some fans happy.

When there isn't a ton of money riding on the deal, it seems like the Packers like to make the popular decision with the fans. Look at Kuhn. Let's face it, he hasn't stood out as a difference maker in the last couple season. He's not good for an automatic 2 or 3 yds like he used to be. Sure he can block, but so could Richard Rogers if you line him up back there. The biggest thing Kuhn has going for him is that fans love yelling his last name at Lambeau.

I like Abbrederis and hope he has a nice career in the league, but I like Janis better at WR and would much rather see Hyde as the return man.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

When there isn't a ton of money riding on the deal, it seems like the Packers like to make the popular decision with the fans. Look at Kuhn. Let's face it, he hasn't stood out as a difference maker in the last couple season. He's not good for an automatic 2 or 3 yds like he used to be. Sure he can block, but so could Richard Rogers if you line him up back there. The biggest thing Kuhn has going for him is that fans love yelling his last name at Lambeau.

I like Abbrederis and hope he has a nice career in the league, but I like Janis better at WR and would much rather see Hyde as the return man.

Kuhn is a way better blocker than Richard Rodgers. The decision to re-sign him had nothing to do with his popularity among Packers fans.

Thompson doesn´t care about the public opinion, otherwise the team would have never held on to Rodgers in 2008 or he would sign a ton of big name free agents every single offseason.

 

[TJV]

When there isn't a ton of money riding on the deal, it seems like the Packers like to make the popular decision with the fans. Look at Kuhn. ... The biggest thing Kuhn has going for him is that fans love yelling his last name at Lambeau.

To add to captainWIMM's post, the biggest thing Kuhn has going for him is his knowledge of the offense. Beyond that I'm surprised a Packers fan would opine that "the Packers like to make the popular decision with the fans" under Ted Thompson. As captain points out the exact opposite with regard to player personnel seems to be true.

 

[Half Empty]

So, this year is the exception that proves the rule?

 

[ivo610]

If there is one thing Ted Thompson does well it's listen to the fans. I'm so glad he caved and decided to splurge every year on a big name free agent.

 

[adambr2]

I would agree with the points on Thompson with 1 exception - Donald Driver. By 2012 Driver was so buried on the depth chart, often a healthy scratch, not a special teams player, and obviously not worth his salary.

I do believe that no other aging WR vet would have been kept that long at that salary. I think Thompson (wisely) considered the PR value of biting the bullet on Driver that year and letting him walk gracefully after 2012.

 

[Half Empty]

If there is one thing Ted Thompson does well it's listen to the fans. I'm so glad he caved and decided to splurge every year on a big name free agent.

Or work on the safety position last year, sign Peppers, dump Jones and Hawk this year

 

[ivo610]

Or work on the safety position last year, sign Peppers, dump Jones and Hawk this year

Some of that was common sense. The peppers move was met with confusion by most fans actually

 

[Half Empty]

Some of that was common sense. The peppers move was met with confusion by most fans actually

Just trying to show that the extreme positions (never, always, every, none, et.al.) aren't usually the correct ones. The Peppers reference was to show that to say that TT NEVER listens to the fans is incorrect, insofar as many call for big name free agents. The first part, common sense, makes the fact that many fans were calling for the moves long before they were made even more supportive of the position that fans can sometimes hold the correct viewpoint.

I don't seriously suggest that TT actually makes any decisions based on what the fans say, just that it sometimes works out that way.

 

[sschind]

Or work on the safety position last year, sign Peppers, dump Jones and Hawk this year

Yeah, Ted did those things because the fans wanted him to.

 

[ivo610]

Just trying to show that the extreme positions (never, always, every, none, et.al.) aren't usually the correct ones. The Peppers reference was to show that to say that TT NEVER listens to the fans is incorrect, insofar as many call for big name free agents. The first part, common sense, makes the fact that many fans were calling for the moves long before they were made even more supportive of the position that fans can sometimes hold the correct viewpoint.

I don't seriously suggest that TT actually makes any decisions based on what the fans say, just that it sometimes works out that way.

Well of course they aren't I think we all know that

 

[sschind]

I don't seriously suggest that TT actually makes any decisions based on what the fans say, just that it sometimes works out that way.

Since TT probably knows what is best for the team and the fans, in general, have a pretty good idea what is best for the team that is not surprising.

Fans cry for changes regardless of circumstances so it is not surprising that fans may call for changes before they happen many times. Fans were calling for Jones and Hawk to be gone for a while but sometimes it just isn't practical. Now when TT releases them it looks like he is finally listening to the fans when he was probably planning it for at least as long as the fans were demanding it.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Since TT probably knows what is best for the team and the fans, in general, have a pretty good idea what is best for the team that is not surprising.

Fans cry for changes regardless of circumstances so it is not surprising that fans may call for changes before they happen many times. Fans were calling for Jones and Hawk to be gone for a while but sometimes it just isn't practical. Now when TT releases them it looks like he is finally listening to the fans when he was probably planning it for at least as long as the fans were demanding it.

I know exactly what you mean. I was calling for a Hershall Walker-type Favre trade in 2000. Evidently management and this fan were totally in sync.