It’s now OFFICIAL!!! Rodgers has been traded to the Jets.

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What Rodgers wants to do might be different than what his body allows him to do. If he has any thoughts that he is just going to be a tackling dummy in the backfield then he isn't going to want to go out looking like that.
 

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He hasn't played at a high level in clutch situations for a very long time.
Agreed. As far as I can tell, he hasn't played up to his hype since the 2011 SB. It would have been interesting to see if that would have changed with the Jets. We'll likely never know.

It's easy to say now, but even in his short appearance, Rodgers looked like an injury waiting to happen - a lousy O line, he was a statue in the pocket, artificial turf, and 40 y/o legs.
 

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Why he did not throw the ball is beyond me. The guy coming from the left was open good. And Rodgers was looking right at him. Also, Rodgers must have known the block by the tackle was not meant to last long.
I was surprised he didn't move left or right to avoid Floyd. He looked like a statue. Age does catch up with all of us.....
 

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Agreed. As far as I can tell, he hasn't played up to his hype since the 2011 SB. It would have been interesting to see if that would have changed with the Jets. We'll likely never know.

It's easy to say now, but even in his short appearance, Rodgers looked like an injury waiting to happen - a lousy O line, he was a statue in the pocket, artificial turf, and 40 y/o legs.
so far a lot of your posts I agree with...

I think AR has been basically the "modern day Peyton Manning" - great Regular Season Stats and just *terrible* AND a huge *choke* artist in the playoffs....

He had a few clutch plays:
The Cowboys dime to Cook for the playoff win
The Cardinals hail mary's

But other than that, he has just been a regular season Stats padder
 

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so far a lot of your posts I agree with...

I think AR has been basically the "modern day Peyton Manning" - great Regular Season Stats and just *terrible* AND a huge *choke* artist in the playoffs....

He had a few clutch plays:
The Cowboys dime to Cook for the playoff win
The Cardinals hail mary's

But other than that, he has just been a regular season Stats padder
It's good to remember just how good he could be, and that 30-yard plus sideline dime to Cook got them in range for the winning field goal (twice) against the Cowboys. He did that a lot in his long career. Would've been nice to have another SB or two, but damn he was always fun to watch, as was Favre.
 

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It's good to remember just how good he could be, and that 30-yard plus sideline dime to Cook got them in range for the winning field goal (twice) against the Cowboys. He did that a lot in his long career. Would've been nice to have another SB or two, but damn he was always fun to watch, as was Favre.
Brett and Aaron were playoff chokers - particularly in the NFC Championship games....

How many end game NFCCG interceptions did Brett throw again?

How many times did Aaron just *NOT* play well at all in the NFCCG?

I think the irony is that BOTH of their last passes were interceptions, both traded to the Jets, but both were entirely different "people" and different playing styles (i.e. Interception King vs Best TD to Int ratio ever)
 

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That’s true. That said how many times do we end up using it? (We didn’t with Jordan)
I guess what I’m saying is it’s such a minor benefit these days. Players that are worth the 5th year $$ normally just hold out until they get market area $
The other guys who aren’t worth a 5th year we either send them packing or we overpay them (Savage). But yes on the face the 5th is wonderful it’s just a diminishing benefit imo. I’d trade that 5th year option for a 5th year compensatory selection that’s how I value it today
we actually use it quite often…. even with Savage which was a questionable decision lol.
 

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I think AR has been basically the "modern day Peyton Manning" - great Regular Season Stats and just *terrible* AND a huge *choke* artist in the playoffs....
Aaron Rodgers, imperfect as he is, is top 5 in passer rating all time in the playoffs (100.1). Top 5 of all time.

In just his playoff losses, his rating is 91. Tom Brady's total career passer rating in the playoffs is 89.8. Yes, Rodgers was better in the playoffs just in games he LOST than Brady in all his games. Do believe that Brady is a significantly worse choker, or a regular season stat padder?

The playoffs are hard as hell, and a whole lot harder when your defense sucks.
 

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Do you really think Rodgers was capable of quickly adapting his game by making the changes necessary? He's one of the most stubborn and slow to adapt players I've ever seen.
And no one can fight the aging process. You might be able to extend it like Brady. But Mother Time catches up with all of us.
 

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Aaron Rodgers, imperfect as he is, is top 5 in passer rating all time in the playoffs (100.1). Top 5 of all time.

In just his playoff losses, his rating is 91. Tom Brady's total career passer rating in the playoffs is 89.8. Yes, Rodgers was better in the playoffs just in games he LOST than Brady in all his games. Do believe that Brady is a significantly worse choker, or a regular season stat padder?

The playoffs are hard as hell, and a whole lot harder when your defense sucks.
Very true. You can pinpoint most of those losses to defense and STs. We are still haunted by that botched onside kick and the blocked punt and blocked FG. Back in 1965 the Packers lost Bart Starr on the first play from scrimmage in a playoff game against the Colts. It was their rock hard defense and Don Chandler that eventually won it in OT.
 

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It's good to remember just how good he could be, and that 30-yard plus sideline dime to Cook got them in range for the winning field goal (twice) against the Cowboys. He did that a lot in his long career. Would've been nice to have another SB or two, but damn he was always fun to watch, as was Favre.
I think Favre was in general a lot more fun to watch. Rodgers was a technician. Favre was an artist.
 

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Why he did not throw the ball is beyond me. The guy coming from the left was open good. And Rodgers was looking right at him. Also, Rodgers must have known the block by the tackle was not meant to last long.
How many times have we seen that over the last few years though? He turns down the easy 5 yards just to look for plays that aren't there. Who knows? Maybe he was looking for Adams or something.
 

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Aaron Rodgers, imperfect as he is, is top 5 in passer rating all time in the playoffs (100.1). Top 5 of all time.

In just his playoff losses, his rating is 91. Tom Brady's total career passer rating in the playoffs is 89.8. Yes, Rodgers was better in the playoffs just in games he LOST than Brady in all his games. Do believe that Brady is a significantly worse choker, or a regular season stat padder?

The playoffs are hard as hell, and a whole lot harder when your defense sucks.

What are Aaron's stats in the NFCCG? The game that REALLY counts - 83.7 rating

Without getting too in depth, the Bucs NFCCG in 2021 really padded his rating - before that he was just TERRIBLE

I mean you're probably looking at a sub 80 passer rating in the NFCCG....

I don't really care about padded stats in the Wild Card or Divisional Round games - what have you done in the Championship Games and Super Bowl - those are the games and stats that really matter
 

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Very true. You can pinpoint most of those losses to defense and STs. We are still haunted by that botched onside kick and the blocked punt and blocked FG. Back in 1965 the Packers lost Bart Starr on the first play from scrimmage in a playoff game against the Colts. It was their rock hard defense and Don Chandler that eventually won it in OT.

83.7 rating in NFCCGs - boosted a LOT by the 2021 Bucs NFCCG; which was easily his best one too by the way

I don't care about padded stats in Wild Card and Divisional Round games - what have you done in the *BIG* games that really, really count?

/win
 

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Didn't Dan Marino have a Achilles injury? I remember Marino being ineffective and very immobile after that.

Rodgers can come back but why would he at 41 years old.

First, he's too prideful to go out like this. Second, he has thirty-eight million reasons to rehab and come back next year.
 

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Lets not get into a holy war here...his ego is enormous. 100 pct he comes back, but will be a slower statue of what once was. If he truly cared he would've taken a pay cut in Green Bay so we could sign some proven commodities. Instead he played the Me card and moved on and did it for another team he had no history with. The Packers had had enough of it. I really cannot blame Gutekunst for calling his arrogant bluffs. Truth be told a true greatest of all time candidate doesnt lead or play like he did in crunch time. I put him in with Dan Marino except he got 1 lucky ring.
 

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Lets not get into a holy war here...his ego is enormous. 100 pct he comes back, but will be a slower statue of what once was. If he truly cared he would've taken a pay cut in Green Bay so we could sign some proven commodities. Instead he played the Me card and moved on and did it for another team he had no history with. The Packers had had enough of it. I really cannot blame Gutekunst for calling his arrogant bluffs. Truth be told a true greatest of all time candidate doesnt lead or play like he did in crunch time. I put him in with Dan Marino except he got 1 lucky ring.
I believe the Jets have to evaluate from here. They invested in what should be a good team in a very competitive conference. Where do they go from here.
 

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For AR, I mean sure it was an a** move, but you can't blame him honestly...

He made the best decision for himself, I would have done the same thing too, not going to lie. He looked out for himself - which is what you SHOULD do

But the irony now for the Jets is, they are on the hook for $75M that is FULLY guaranteed and he may never even play another down for them again - so all Aaron has to do is show up and he'll make $75M over the next 2 years. With this injury, it's not unreasonable that he may never be cleared to play again or go through extensive rehab

Yet...the Jets would still be on the hook for $75M that is FULLY guaranteed...as long as he doesn't retire LOL
 

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I believe the Jets have to evaluate from here. They invested in what should be a good team in a very competitive conference. Where do they go from here.
If I was them... I'd start questioning myself and re evaluate how I spent my cap

They may be on the hook for the next 2 years for $75M for a guy who may never play another down for them again LOL
 

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If I was them... I'd start questioning myself and re evaluate how I spent my cap

They may be on the hook for the next 2 years for $75M for a guy who may never play another down for them again LOL
At this moment it may be better to be a Packer fan than a Jet fan.
 

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