It’s now OFFICIAL!!! Rodgers has been traded to the Jets.

[longtimefan]

If nothing else, the Packers should welcome SF into the Rodgers competition, since it might convince the Jets to up their offer. A li

Farves problems was wearing down late in the season and making really stupid decisions in critical moments of playoff games. The stupid pass at the end of the NYG game really looked like he didn't care and just wanted to get into the warm locker room. Which is how it played out in Minny as well. Funny thing, my Viking friend was rubbing my nose in it all season, and I told him to just wait. You are going to get Favred once again.

Rodgers issue is different. We are trading him not just because of his talent erosion, but his attitude. His refusal to throw to open receivers, the snears at coaches, body language on the field showing no confidence, throwing teammates under the bus, etc. We will not get to a SB with AR as our QB. No leadership qualities.

Gutes biggest mistake was not dumping him last season for the deal Seattle got. I doubt AR would have done much better in Denver than Wilson and we would be sitting on some high picks. But who knows what would have happened.

1 year to early than 1 to late

 

[OldSchool101]

The Packers aren't trading Rodgers because of what a portion of the fanbase calls a soap opera either but the stupid way they structured his extension last offseason.

Who’s fault was that?! Aaron Rodgers side negotiated that and he was 100% behind holding us financially hostage.

You’re acting like our FO lobbied to give Aaron league high money and fully guaranteed? That sounded like it was written by someone reared in Chicago, IL

Gutes biggest mistake was not dumping him last season for the deal Seattle got. I doubt AR would have done much better in Denver than Wilson and we would be sitting on some high picks. But who knows what would have happened.

Agreed. Looking back we should’ve dumped him. He’s been a proverbial thorn in our side

Rodgers issue is different. We are trading him not just because of his talent erosion, but his attitude.

Exactly what I was about to say.

 

[Mondio]

I think we’re trading him because he’s facing a season at 40 and will cost 60M next year if he plays for us this year.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Rodgers issue is different. We are trading him not just because of his talent erosion, but his attitude. His refusal to throw to open receivers, the snears at coaches, body language on the field showing no confidence, throwing teammates under the bus, etc. We will not get to a SB with AR as our QB. No leadership qualities.

The Packers are trading Rodgers because of the implication holding on to me would have on the cap. Otherwise Murphy, Gutekunst and MLF would hold on to him as he gives the team the best of winning.

Who’s fault was that?! Aaron Rodgers side negotiated that and he was 100% behind holding us financially hostage.

Gutekunst and Ball are responsible for managing the cap. It's not Rodgers' job to take care of the team's financial situation.

You’re acting like our FO lobbied to give Aaron league high money and fully guaranteed? That sounded like it was written by someone reared in Chicago, IL

It should hardly come as a surprise to anyone that the two time defending MVP wants to be paid fair market value.

As a side note, only two years of his extension were fully guaranteed.

 

[rmontro]

Who’s fault was that?! Aaron Rodgers side negotiated that and he was 100% behind holding us financially hostage.

It takes two to tango. The Packers agreed to it. Why shouldn't Rodgers' agents negotiate the best deal for him? If it's such a disaster, Gutenkunst is just as responsible. I would have loved it if Rodgers would have set aside part of his salary to improve the team, but that's just a fantasy.

 

[Mondio]

I think the whole contract thing was both sides gaining and losing. Rodgers gained money and some control over future. The team kept a really good QB coming off an MVP season and was given time to decide if an aging expensive QB was in their future or not. Most contracts would have had that bonus paid at the start of the league year, not the start of the regular season. That gives GB time, that ensure Rodgers is paid if he plays regardless of what GB decides.

there doesn't have to be a good guy and a bad guy in this when it seems like it was "both" guys saw the benefits of it.

 

[AmishMafia]

The Packers are trading Rodgers because of the implication holding on to me would have on the cap. Otherwise Murphy, Gutekunst and MLF would hold on to him as he gives the team the best of winning.

You just slipped up - you are Aaron Rodgers, aren't you?

 

[OldSchool101]

Gutekunst and Ball are responsible for managing the cap. It's not Rodgers' job to take care of the team's financial situation

There has never been a legal contract or binding contract that didn’t include consideration by both parties. So your ignorance of that is not an viable excuse, nor argument.
Interesting I should bring that up today. On that exact note.. and more importantly.

Happy Easter Everyone!
May God bless you at an immeasurable level. I always enjoy the volley back and forth between us in here and pray for peace for you guys always.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

You just slipped up - you are Aaron Rodgers, aren't you?

Well, I wish I could throw a football like him. But unfortunately I completely lack talent in that regard.

There has never been a legal contract or binding contract that didn’t include consideration by both parties. So your ignorance of that is not an viable excuse, nor argument.

Of course it was both sides who negotiated the contract. But the team's cap situation is none of Rodgers' business.

 

[Pkrjones]

Of course it was both sides who negotiated the contract. But the team's cap situation is none of Rodgers' business.

As pseudo-GM the last few years, with input into the draft & free agents it SHOULD have been Rodgers' business. Every dollar in AR's pocket is $1 less in a free agent's.

 

[gopkrs]

Rodgers is nowhere near setting an all-time record in one of the main categories. He would have to play at least another five years to have a realistic shot.

He's probably still climbing in a lot of categories and his name in the record books won't fall off the pages for quite some time. Longer, if he plays longer. He's not married. No kids. He could play for awhile if he doesn't get hurt bad. A lot of QBs just started falling off the cliff at his age. With a good O line and receivers, and a little change of attitude on his part. I could see him playing for a few more years.

 

[tynimiller]

two years tops.

 

[Firethorn1001]

two years tops.

He gets close to a SB with the Jets, 2.

He goes 9-8 in a relatively injury free year, the NY Media will brutalize him and he will be done.

 

[OldSchool101]

As pseudo-GM the last few years, with input into the draft & free agents it SHOULD have been Rodgers' business. Every dollar in AR's pocket is $1 less in a free agent's.

That’s exactly right. He pushed us to the brink of either
A. Lose our starter before we were prepared
B. Overpay and overextend our Team Cap

I loved how Brady took very modest Contracts in comparison. He wasn’t really any lesser of a QB on an overall scale.

 

[OldSchool101]

He's probably still climbing in a lot of categories and his name in the record books won't fall off the pages for quite some time. Longer, if he plays longer. He's not married. No kids. He could play for awhile if he doesn't get hurt bad. A lot of QBs just started falling off the cliff at his age. With a good O line and receivers, and a little change of attitude on his part. I could see him playing for a few more years.

I think it’s realistic to say he could play 3 more seasons. I’d put the over/under at 2 seasons area.
2023 99% he plays
2024 65%
2025 50%
2026 35%

For myself. The majority of the retirement talk was due to his unhappiness in GB. Sometimes the best set of problems is a new set of problems.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Every dollar in AR's pocket is $1 less in a free agent's.

That's true for every player on the roster as well. Once again, it's completely unrealistic to expect a player to take significantly less than market value to help out their team. It's the job of the front office to manage the cap. The Packers did a poor job of it when extending Rodgers' contract last offseason.

I loved how Brady took very modest Contracts in comparison. He wasn’t really any lesser of a QB on an overall scale.

As I have mentioned repeatedly (and supported with numbers) it's a myth that Brady took less for the team to surround him with better talent.

 

[PikeBadger]

That’s exactly right. He pushed us to the brink of either
A. Lose our starter before we were prepared
B. Overpay and overextend our Team Cap

I loved how Brady took very modest Contracts in comparison. He wasn’t really any lesser of a QB on an overall scale.

I still believe that Brady was assured that Kraft and his wealthy cronies quietly assured Brady that he was always going to be adequately compensated outside of his formal and public benefit package from the Patriots as long as he continued to pile up victories and championships.

 

[Mondio]

Brady was about the only FA they ever paid big money to LOL. BB just knew how to turn over that roster. Wasn't afraid to tell guys to take a hike before they were old or injured and expensive. Brady didn't take a smaller percentage of cap over his career than any other big name QB.

 

[Schultz]

Maybe, maybe not. All I know is if I read or hear that he took less money more times than I read or hear he didn't IMO it has been clinically proven that he did.

 

[PikeBadger]

Brady was about the only FA they ever paid big money to LOL. BB just knew how to turn over that roster. Wasn't afraid to tell guys to take a hike before they were old or injured and expensive. Brady didn't take a smaller percentage of cap over his career than any other big name QB.

Let's just say I'm suspicious of the way the Patriots operate. Brady never got out of what you would expect compensation for a guy winning that many championships. He could have made quite a bit more on the open market imo.

 

[tynimiller]

Well, I wish I could throw a football like him. But unfortunately I completely lack talent in that regard.



Of course it was both sides who negotiated the contract. But the team's cap situation is none of Rodgers' business.

Aaron Jone's disagrees with the logic it is none of a guys' business:

“This is still the most I’ve ever made, and it still has me as the second-highest paid for the backs, so it matched up with the market. I didn’t want to be greedy. I’m a team player,” Jones said Tuesday, via Wes Hodkiewicz of the team’s official site. “I want to help the team and help them get as many guys in here as we can. So, if that means free up a little money, then I will.”

 

[Mondio]

Aaron Jone's disagrees with the logic it is none of a guys' business:

“This is still the most I’ve ever made, and it still has me as the second-highest paid for the backs, so it matched up with the market. I didn’t want to be greedy. I’m a team player,” Jones said Tuesday, via Wes Hodkiewicz of the team’s official site. “I want to help the team and help them get as many guys in here as we can. So, if that means free up a little money, then I will.”

he's the second highest paid? It's not like he took a discount. yeah he didn't hold out for it, but he says it himself, "it matched up with the market". I'd say that means he got paid what the market said he'd get paid. Not more, not less.

 

[tynimiller]

he's the second highest paid? It's not like he took a discount. yeah he didn't hold out for it, but he says it himself, "it matched up with the market". I'd say that means he got paid what the market said he'd get paid. Not more, not less.

He actually however took a true cut. You cannot acknowledge what you did, without acknowledging he actually took a cut. It wasn't as big as some want to pretend but it truly was.

 

[Mondio]

He actually however took a true cut. You cannot acknowledge what you did, without acknowledging he actually took a cut. It wasn't as big as some want to pretend but it truly was.

Yes he did, or he likely would have been cut. But he’s still being paid the market price.

 

[rmontro]

Maybe, maybe not. All I know is if I read or hear that he took less money more times than I read or hear he didn't IMO it has been clinically proven that he did.

Maybe it has something to do with his accomplishments were so gaudy that he could have made more than he did.