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Is anyone actually afraid of the Vikings?
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I would not exactly call the Redskins the gold standard as far as personnel decision making goes.
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To answer OP's question: Yes Im hella scared
You guys sound exactly like Skip Bayless lol, same things he said today.
I would have preferred a Viking loss because it would have been better for us. But I can't feel too bad about Dallas losing.
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Well I don't listen to no meathead named Skippy, so nothing he said was original.
Anyway, I watched the game and the Viqueens got lucky. I don't give a damn if it was the Cowboys they were playing last night, and you damn well better believe im gonna pull for the Seahawks to kick their butts to high heaven in 2 weeks too.
All that to say though, calls for Garrett's head are growing loud in D-TOWN and the angry mob is about to start burning ****. And I can't blame them. You got Prescott picking that defense apart right and left while Elliott's running slow like a drunkard, Cowboys have ripped down the field on the potential go ahead drive, situated themselves second and two, and all the sudden ... Garrett shuts off the spigot. Mike McCarthy himself was never that bad.
They were awful in pass defense last night, god awful. They were a bad team that got so stupid lucky that the idiot Garrett called the dumbest plays at the end there. Stick with the pass, Cowboys go up by 3, and I guarantee $1 million Cousins chokes again like he always does in clutch time.
Vikings are grown *** men
Rayne Dakota Prescott currently leads the league in QBR at 78.8.
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One thing that stands out when comparing the seasons of the Packers and Vikings so far-- they have had three games on their schedule through week 10 that are all weaker opponents than anyone that the Packers have faced.
Three of their wins are against three of the bottom five teams in the league-- ATL, WAS, and NYG.
The Packers have yet to play Washington or New York, and they won't get the Falcons this year (they had the Panthers instead).
Three of their wins are against three of the bottom five teams in the league-- ATL, WAS, and NYG.
The Packers have yet to play Washington or New York, and they won't get the Falcons this year (they had the Panthers instead).
Raptorman
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Yup Picking that defense apart.
Prescott passing, deep balls 53 yards, 46 yards, 40 yards, 27 yards, 25 yards, 24 yards, 23 yards............wait, sorry, those are Prescotts deep passing against the Packers. But the Vikings got lucky. The longest pass he had against the Vikings was 26 yards. If the Vikings defense was "god awful" giving up 397 yards passing what is the Packers Defense giving up 465 yards of passing?
One more thing.
Aaron Rodgers is the better QB? Right? Anyone here would say so. Any football fan would say so.
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The last two years, regular-season games.
Rodgers. 14-11-1
Cousins. 15-10-1
2015-2017
Rodgers 24-15-0 (2017 Rodgers only play in 7 games.)
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Well well well, the king of stupid returns with his fake news stats and garbage take.
Well I don't fall for that cuz your overrated team ain't done **** this year.
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Hey, just wanted to say good on you for pointing out the issue with the "Cousins in prime time" narrative.
No one said the Packers had a great defense, so I'm not sure why you brought them into it, although the passing stats in the 2 games are a really poor comparison as the Cowboys fell behind big early to the Packers and spent the majority of the game playing catch-up.
It's not a great sign for the Vikings to see their secondary get abused like it was. That was supposed to be one of the major strengths of the team. The Vikings are a clearly above average team, but they don't have an Aaron Rodgers. I don't know what the point of comparing their recent records has to do with anything as everyone knows the Packers have underperformed record-wise the last two seasons and if we're only using record to evaluate quarterbacks, I'm sure Jimmy Garrapolo would like to get in on this discussion.
QBR gives extra credit to QBs that fall way behind and play catch up against prevent defenses. The stats are diminished when playing with a lead.
There's something screwy with it, that's for sure.
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Vikings: Broncos, Seahawks, Lions, Chargers, Packers, Bears
Packers: 49ers, Giants, Skins, Bears, Vikings, Lions
Both have 1 good team to face (49ers for us and Hawks for them)
We have Giants and Skins while they have slightly Broncos and Chargers
Plus the 3 divisional opponents.
I think the schedule strength is relatively the same for both teams. Lot may come to depend on when we face each other Wk 15.
But either way I see both us and them making the playoffs with them probably as wildcard.
Apart from us and 49ers, we have Vikings, Saints, Seahawks and Cowboys in mix. Very interesting and quite even conference.
Apart from Pats and Ravens, the AFC collectively is a dumpster fire.
Packers: 49ers, Giants, Skins, Bears, Vikings, Lions
Both have 1 good team to face (49ers for us and Hawks for them)
We have Giants and Skins while they have slightly Broncos and Chargers
Plus the 3 divisional opponents.
I think the schedule strength is relatively the same for both teams. Lot may come to depend on when we face each other Wk 15.
But either way I see both us and them making the playoffs with them probably as wildcard.
Apart from us and 49ers, we have Vikings, Saints, Seahawks and Cowboys in mix. Very interesting and quite even conference.
Apart from Pats and Ravens, the AFC collectively is a dumpster fire.
The Chargers beat us. But I always say: If you have to lose a game, lose a non-conference game.
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The Chargers and Broncos are better/tougher opponents than the Giants and Redskins, so I'd say that Minny has had the easier ride thus far, but that the Packers have the easier slate from here on out.
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Cousin's record as a starter is now 13-2 in career games where he has no INTs or fumbles, whether those fumbles were turnovers or not in the other games. That includes playing with some not so great Redskins teams.
He may be the only QB in the league, or maybe the last decade, where fumble frequency is nearly the issue of INTs. This is not a guy with innate superior self-confidence or short memory, judging from some off season self-criticisms. Strip sacking may be enough to knock him off his game.
When he plays clean he rolls along. In those cases, with the current collection of talent, these guys are very tough to beat. Force a mistake or two and your odds go up meaningfully.
He may be the only QB in the league, or maybe the last decade, where fumble frequency is nearly the issue of INTs. This is not a guy with innate superior self-confidence or short memory, judging from some off season self-criticisms. Strip sacking may be enough to knock him off his game.
When he plays clean he rolls along. In those cases, with the current collection of talent, these guys are very tough to beat. Force a mistake or two and your odds go up meaningfully.
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Raptorman
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Yup Cousins is so bad and fumbles all the time he leads the league fumbles per game...........well, maybe not.
Fumbles per game.
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Games. Fumbles Per game
Wentz 49 35 0.71
Goff 48 34 0.71
Cousins 88 53 0.60
Wilson 122 70 0.57
Brees 268 138 0.51
Mahomes 25 12 0.48
Brady 278 132 0.47
Rodgers 175 72 0.41
Roeth. 218 80 0.37
Ryan 182 62 0.34
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Assuming your data is right, he's pretty close to the worst in frequency with nearly double the track record of the couple of QBs I'm not all that impressed with, but his record when it happens says he has particular difficulty overcoming them.
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The Eagles might end up winning the NFC East. While the Chiefs have struggled as of late they could still be a dangerous team in the playoffs.
The Vikings should definitely be considered a legit contender in the NFC but no matter how hard you try to convince other posters Cousins isn't an elite quarterback.
In division tiebreakers it's actually less damaging to lose non-common games (example: the Packers losing to the 49ers would be less damaging in a tiebreaker with the Vikings than their loss to the Chargers because the Vikings do not play the 49ers and both teams play the Chargers).
Now if it is two teams outside the same division, like for instance the Packers and Seahawks tie for the #1 seed, yes it would come down to conference record.
Are you trying to make me feel better about a potential loss to the 49ers? Got to take your comfort where you can, I guess.
Anyway, we're winning. I hope.
Raptorman
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Common games is the third tiebreaker, Conference games are the 4th.
Vikings don't play the Niner, but they do play the Seahawks.
Of course, because division games are #2 (behind H2H).
Packers don't play the Seahawks so that is also not a common game.
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