How is it that Capers still has a job with the Green Bay Packers?

[JBlood]

Shout out to those untalented defensive players Thompson doesn't know how to draft.

Yes, the coaches deserve credit for making the players play. I'll be impressed when they are able to do it week after week. Apparently it isn't entirely due to having nothing to work with.

 

[PikeBadger]

Shout out to those untalented defensive players Thompson doesn't know how to draft.

Intensity, striking instead of ankle biting, pursuit, gang tackling...lets see if this can become a habit. I'll reserve judgement on that point.

Matthews in the middle all day calling the signals...is that what energized these guys?

Credit where credit is due...that was an outstanding defensive game plan. There were even adjustments made when Wilson started making hay with his legs, something we've not seen in the past.

Yes, I didn't see any sign of talent on the defensive side of the ball either (tic). Raji looks inspired to play and that to me is the biggest surprise. He set the tone early in blowing up running plays. Overall, an excellent performance against a very tough team. The harshest Packer critics reside on this board. On the outside, people marvel at this team.

 

[Ceodore]

The Seattle win was a nice one, but we still let the QB run on us WAY too much. surprised we still dont have a very good plan to contain that better. I still can't help but feel like, for how bad SF is, we'll still have a tough time with them if we cant contain Kap.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

The Seattle win was a nice one, but we still let the QB run on us WAY too much. surprised we still dont have a very good plan to contain that better. I still can't help but feel like, for how bad SF is, we'll still have a tough time with them if we cant contain Kap.

Overall the defense did a great job vs. the Seahawks. It's impossible to not give up any plays in this league but containing Lynch and Graham was a major reason the Packers won the game.

 

[Vrill]

The Seattle win was a nice one, but we still let the QB run on us WAY too much. surprised we still dont have a very good plan to contain that better. I still can't help but feel like, for how bad SF is, we'll still have a tough time with them if we cant contain Kap.

Good running QB's will make plays on any defense, much less ours.

 

[HardRightEdge]

53 mins in nfccg

It's all about how you finish.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Yes, the coaches deserve credit for making the players play. I'll be impressed when they are able to do it week after week. Apparently it isn't entirely due to having nothing to work with.

Surely somewhere toward the top of coaches' job descriptions is getting the players to play.

 

[HardRightEdge]

The Seattle win was a nice one, but we still let the QB run on us WAY too much. surprised we still dont have a very good plan to contain that better. I still can't help but feel like, for how bad SF is, we'll still have a tough time with them if we cant contain Kap.

The thing you have to like about this game is after blowing edge contain on a succession of plays (Mulumba twice; Peppers once that I noted in particular), Mulumba was pulled and the rest of the guys took a little wider set and penned Wilson in pretty well. I'm encouraged. We need to see follow-through, not self-back patting.

 

[Joe Nor Cal Packer]

Overall the defense did a great job vs. the Seahawks. It's impossible to not give up any plays in this league but containing Lynch and Graham was a major reason the Packers won the game.

And I think Capers did adjust for the read. Peppers was burned by Wilson on one read, and after that I think it was Daniels or Neal who "stayed home" and tackled Wilson for a loss. It's very hard for any D to stop the read completely, especially when it's run as well as Seattle. I'm not that concerned about the 49ers after seeing the game last night. Kapernick is athletic, but certainly not more so than Wilson. I have very few things to criticize about the effort by the D on Sunday. It was a fine effort by all three units. It's amazing to me how well they adjusted for the run after the Chicago game.

 

[Joe Nor Cal Packer]

The thing you have to like about this game is after blowing edge contain on a succession of plays (Mulumba twice; Peppers once that I noted in particular), Mulumba was pulled and the rest of the guys took a little wider set and penned Wilson in pretty well. I'm encouraged. We need to see follow-through, not self-back patting.

I remember the play where Peppers lost edge and Wilson burned him. After that, Capers adjusted nicely.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Peppers was burned by Wilson on one read, and after that I think it was Daniels or Neal who "stayed home" and tackled Wilson for a loss.

That was a great play by Neal.

 

[Grave]

Yes, the coaches deserve credit for making the players play. I'll be impressed when they are able to do it week after week. Apparently it isn't entirely due to having nothing to work with.

Well, well, well, well. Quite a thread. Don't have time to read 9 pages.

I agree with JB, we have the players. The Capers problem is he's always innovating. We had too much D minus DTs and DEs. Too little base. And, pass D that Capers was unable to teach D-backs. He's wasted what should have been championship years. Last year, MM, entirely fed up but loyal to his coaches to a weakness, declared he would be more involved with the D and STs. MM wanted more base. Last week in Chicago, he was outraged and mentioned the double-digit missed tackles. Outrage is sometimes an effective thing. Probably caused a deeper hair dye for Capers. (I have trouble trusting old guys who dye their hair.)

I believe MM has gone more than the extra mile with Capers and his BS "innovative" Ds that have damaged us so much. Howinhell does and adult coach get away with - for years - playing a midget D like the 0-5-6? the 1-4-6? the 2-4-6? Capers is a moron compared to Fritz Shurmur. Howinhell does any Packer fan tolerate this? Lombardi would have fired Capers 4 years ago. Capers says now, "You get what you emphasize."

WTF? He was emphasizing doormatism?

I believe MM had seen enough last week in Chicago and caused more 3-4. And brought the run-stop back. Basic football. We looked like a Packers D again.

I am with JB, I will be more impressed when they play like this every week.

Thanks Mike, God, and Saint Vince.

And thanks to everyone who insists on Packers Football. We should never settle for anything less.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Well, well, well, well. Quite a thread. Don't have time to read 9 pages.

I agree with JB, we have the players. The Capers problem is he's always innovating. We had too much D minus DTs and DEs. Too little base. And, pass D that Capers was unable to teach D-backs. He's wasted what should have been championship years. Last year, MM, entirely fed up but loyal to his coaches to a weakness, declared he would be more involved with the D and STs. MM wanted more base. Last week in Chicago, he was outraged and mentioned the double-digit missed tackles. Outrage is sometimes an effective thing. Probably caused a deeper hair dye for Capers. (I have trouble trusting old guys who dye their hair.)

I believe MM has gone more than the extra mile with Capers and his BS "innovative" Ds that have damaged us so much. Howinhell does and adult coach get away with - for years - playing a midget D like the 0-5-6? the 1-4-6? the 2-4-6? Capers is a moron compared to Fritz Shurmur. Howinhell does any Packer fan tolerate this? Lombardi would have fired Capers 4 years ago. Capers says now, "You get what you emphasize."

WTF? He was emphasizing doormatism?

I believe MM had seen enough last week in Chicago and caused more 3-4. And brought the run-stop back. Basic football. We looked like a Packers D again.

I am with JB, I will be more impressed when they play like this every week.

Thanks Mike, God, and Saint Vince.

And thanks to everyone who insists on Packers Football. We should never settle for anything less.

The Packers only lined up in their base defense on 12 of 59 snaps (20.3%) vs. the Seahawks. The only thing I agree with you is that I don´t like the 2-4-6 defense either as most of the time we get penalized for too many men on the field.

 

[TJV]

the 2-4-6? Capers is a moron compared to Fritz Shurmur.

You might want to be careful calling others names when you apparently have trouble counting to 11 and getting your facts wrong.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Last week in Chicago, he was outraged and mentioned the double-digit missed tackles. Outrage is sometimes an effective thing.

Having read a report and not having seen/heard his comments, "outrage" might or might not be a little strong. I'll go with "call it out in the press".

But your point is well taken. This is a semi-annual event. The defense goes through a spell of lackadaisical pursuit, ankle-biting and a general lack of intensity...McCarthy calls them out in the press...then they come out and play. We'll see if the intensity can be sustained.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

It's all about how you finish.

Exactly! Like when the Bills gave up 37 points to the Pats in the first three quarters but then held them to 3 in the fourth quarter! That's how you play defense!!!!

 

[Sunshinepacker]

I generally defend Capers because I honestly think the defensive coordinators job is simply to put guys in position to make plays, and the vast majority of the time Capers does just that. Once Clinton-Dix is in position to make a stop it's no longer about Capers but about the skill of Clinton-Dix. I'm very happy the defense played so well against Seattle but I won't start capering about in glee (see what I did there?) until I see this team play an offense with a good oline.

 

[Mondio]

But your point is well taken. This is a semi-annual event. The defense goes through a spell of lackadaisical pursuit, ankle-biting and a general lack of intensity...McCarthy calls them out in the press...then they come out and play. We'll see if the intensity can be sustained.

It's a long, long season and teams change from drive to drive it seems. A lot happens, somethings you can control, some you can't, but this team operates at a level higher than most and fairly consistently I might add. Show me a team that doesn't go thru something or have some deficit in this league and I'll give you a batch of homemade cookies

I agree it gets tiresome at points, but how many other teams can stand up and say "this is an issue" and then show actual improvement like GB does? I've accepted that no team is perfect

 

[HardRightEdge]

It's a long, long season and teams change from drive to drive it seems. A lot happens, somethings you can control, some you can't, but this team operates at a level higher than most and fairly consistently I might add. Show me a team that doesn't go thru something or have some deficit in this league and I'll give you a batch of homemade cookies

I agree it gets tiresome at points, but how many other teams can stand up and say "this is an issue" and then show actual improvement like GB does? I've accepted that no team is perfect

There are times where you'll be simply out-played. There are times where superior talent in particular match-ups will be the margin of loss. There are times you'll be out-schemed. There are times you'll get caught against an opponent on a roll that seizes momentum and puts you back on your heels.

But there's no excuse for extended periods of lack of intensity, disjointed team play, and failure to attempt adjustments.

We'll see if the Seattle effort can be maintained, particularly on the road.

 

[gopkrs]

Not to beat a dead horse...OK, yes, to beat a dead (I hope) horse. At one point I thought Capers called a 3 man rush and McCarthy actually called a time out and cancelled it. Obviously not sure about that. Though the pass rush was not that great; we did have him dancing and not able to focus totally downfield imho.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Not to beat a dead horse...OK, yes, to beat a dead (I hope) horse. At one point I thought Capers called a 3 man rush and McCarthy actually called a time out and cancelled it. Obviously not sure about that. Though the pass rush was not that great; we did have him dancing and not able to focus totally downfield imho.

You´re right about that. It happened midway through the first quarter with McCarthy calling a timeout on a 3rd-and-12 play right before the snap. The Seahawks snapped the ball as they didn´t realize a timeout had been called and the Packers only rushing three.

 

[SoonerPack]

You´re right about that. It happened midway through the first quarter with McCarthy calling a timeout on a 3rd-and-12 play right before the snap. The Seahawks snapped the ball as they didn´t realize a timeout had been called and the Packers only rushing three.

I was wondering what your thoughts were on BJ so far? You were very skeptical (more than understandable) about his return bearing much fruit. He looks to be playing solid ball right now and hopefully that continues. Just wondering your thoughts on him thus far or is the jury still out?

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I was wondering what your thoughts were on BJ so far? You were very skeptical (more than understandable) about his return bearing much fruit. He looks to be playing solid ball right now and hopefully that continues. Just wondering your thoughts on him thus far or is the jury still out?

I think Raji has been the best defensive lineman during the first two games. I have to admit that I'm surprised by his performance so far and hopefully he can hold that up for the entire season. Even if he does I would be extremely reluctant to hand out a huge long-term contract to him.

 

[TJV]

I was wondering what your thoughts were on BJ so far?

It's not captainWIMM but here's what Rodney from Packers Notes had to say about Raji:

B.J. Raji played like it was 2010. The interior of the Seahawks offensive line is, well, offensive, but that shouldn’t diminish what the enigmatic nose tackle accomplished. The former No. 1 pick from Boston College seemed to be in the backfield almost as much as Russell Wilson and Marshawn Lynch. If – and it’s a very big if – he continues to play the way he did on Sunday night, the Packers run defense actually has a chance to be pretty decent this season.

http://packersnotes.com/2015/09/tale-of-the-tape-gb-vs-sea/

In accordance to the name of this thread, BJ deserves no credit for this change. According to my double secret source inside 1265, Dom Capers has refused to attempt to motivate BJ until this season. So BJ’s lack of production and lack of effort over the past few seasons was not his fault; it was Capers’. My source overheard Capers approach BJ this summer and he said, “You should try harder”. So now he is, damn that Capers for waiting so long!

 

[Sunshinepacker]

I think Raji has been the best defensive lineman during the first two games. I have to admit that I'm surprised by his performance so far and hopefully he can hold that up for the entire season. Even if he does I would be extremely reluctant to hand out a huge long-term contract to him.

First, I will state that I was one hundred percent doubtful on Raji being any good this year so I'm very pleasantly surprised that he's played this well in the first two games of the season. Unless he plays like Aaron Donald this year I personally wouldn't do anything more than another one year, cheap deal with Raji. I also want to see how well he plays against some better offensive lines than the Bears and Seahawks. But I will reiterate, he has been VERY good in his last two games and if he continues to play like this throughout the season then the Packers will be MUCH better off on defense than I thought possible coming into the season.