How is it that Capers still has a job with the Green Bay Packers?

[azrsx05]

It seems Capers spends too much time trying to get too fancy with his schemes to fool the other team. Many times I think the schemes alone fools our own players. He should be spending his time teaching them how to at least tackle properly, stop trying to go for the big play all the time and giving huge chunks of yards after catches. If he comes up with all these fancy blitz schemes, he should at least get pressure on the QBs. Too many times the QBs have time to sit back there and drink tea on this pass rush. Something needs to be done about 3rd downs. We all know that keeping Rodgers on the sideline is the way to keep games close

 

[Carl]

It seems Capers spends too much time trying to get too fancy with his schemes to fool the other team. Many times I think the schemes alone fools our own players. He should be spending his time teaching them how to at least tackle properly, stop trying to go for the big play all the time and giving huge chunks of yards after catches. If he comes up with all these fancy blitz schemes, he should at least get pressure on the QBs. Too many times the QBs have time to sit back there and drink tea on this pass rush. Something needs to be done about 3rd downs. We all know that keeping Rodgers on the sideline is the way to keep games close

Fancy blitz scheme got us a pick today.

 

[longtimefan]

It seems Capers spends too much time trying to get too fancy with his schemes to fool the other team. Many times I think the schemes alone fools our own players. He should be spending his time teaching them how to at least tackle properly, stop trying to go for the big play all the time and giving huge chunks of yards after catches. If he comes up with all these fancy blitz schemes, he should at least get pressure on the QBs. Too many times the QBs have time to sit back there and drink tea on this pass rush. Something needs to be done about 3rd downs. We all know that keeping Rodgers on the sideline is the way to keep games close

How often is there tackling drills in practice? What is the time break down of how often they do it?

Does Capers actually do the teaching or does the assistant def coaches teach their respective players?

 

[Carl]

How often is there tackling drills in practice? What is the time break down of how often they do it?

Does Capers actually do the teaching or does the assistant def coaches teach their respective players?

Good points LTF. For all we know, the Packers could be tackling a lot every padded practice.

 

[PikeBadger]

How often is there tackling drills in practice? What is the time break down of how often they do it?

Does Capers actually do the teaching or does the assistant def coaches teach their respective players?

These guys barely practice in full pads anymore once the season starts. I fear that the only way to develop good tacklers anymore is by drafting the ones that have proven on college tape that they can tackle. Dix is still bad.

 

[Vrill]

These guys barely practice in full pads anymore once the season starts. I fear that the only way to develop good tacklers anymore is by drafting the ones that have proven on college tape that they can tackle. Dix is still bad.

Dix was an excellent tackler in College and this is coming from a Tide fan.

 

[Krisco65]

For the longest time I believed it wasn't just Capers and that it was the players. I can't turn that blind eye anymore. Its the same issues he have had since 2010 and he needs to go.

 

[JBlood]

How often is there tackling drills in practice

Who knows? If there are actually such drills, it's apparent they aren't working.

 

[azrsx05]

Fancy blitz scheme got us a pick today.

They got lucky that was Cutler. A QB they face in the playoffs most likely will not throw the ball away like Cutler does.

 

[Vrill]

Here comes the overreaction crowd, lmao

 

[HardRightEdge]

“Sounds pretty equal” regarding a quote that doesn’t include the word, “equal”.

That's some pretty bad lawyering right there.

 

[Carl]

They got lucky that was Cutler. A QB they face in the playoffs most likely will not throw the ball away like Cutler does.

Clay faked a blitz and dropped back to the other side. Teams often throw opposite side of a blitz. That's a good play design.

 

[Carl]

For the longest time I believed it wasn't just Capers and that it was the players. I can't turn that blind eye anymore. Its the same issues he have had since 2010 and he needs to go.

When the Packers put 8 in the box and the run still works, what can Capers do?

Maybe they should try all 11 in the box....

 

[Croak]

Is it possible that in today's financial setting of the NFL it is very difficult to have both a fearsome offense *and* a fearsome defense? Is it possible that some sacrifices have to be made in order to ensure that at least one side is very dominant?

 

[Carl]

For the longest time I believed it wasn't just Capers and that it was the players. I can't turn that blind eye anymore. Its the same issues he have had since 2010 and he needs to go.

Seriously, what can he do when 8 in the box doesn't stop the run?

 

[Krisco65]

When the Packers put 8 in the box and the run still works, what can Capers do?

Maybe they should try all 11 in the box.

While I agree with 8 in the box, that wasn't every time. No matter what we did they just ran all over us. I don't believe its the players even though tackling was subpar. I believe it was Capers calls given what the situation was on the field.

 

[Carl]

While I agree with 8 in the box, that wasn't every time. No matter what we did they just ran all over us. I don't believe its the players even though tackling was subpar. I believe it was Capers calls given what the situation was on the field.

If nothing works, then it's clearly the players getting beat.

 

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[HardRightEdge]

HRE, don't you at least agree that the special teams made some atrocious mistakes in that game and the offense certainly could have done better? By the way I am with you on this and put the large majority of the blame on a defense that failed to close out. The last 5 minutes of that game was literally some of the worst, if not the worst defense the Packers played all year. But, the offense and ST did play their parts in that failure.

Of course the special teams gaffs were impossible to miss. The offending players and coach have been fired. Such gaffs occur on a weekly basis in the NFL. Are they the overwhelming reasons for a loss? Not often, and not in this case.

The offense scored 22 points, a bit below the season road average, be it mean or median. Not a great offensive performance, or even a good one, but within the range of expectations particularly against an elite defense.

Then we get to the final 5 minutes of the game: 200+ yards, 3 TDs. Had the Packers just handed Seattle the ball on first down during that the 3-and-outs, the defensive collapse would still be an insult and outrage. All else pales.

Anybody who knows what they're talking about will tell it's all about how you finish.

 

[Ogsponge]

Of course the special teams gaffs were impossible to miss. The offending players and coach have been fired. Such gaffs occur on a weekly basis. Are they the overwhelming reasons for a loss? Not often, and not in this case.

The offense scored 22 points, a bit below the season road average. Not a great performance, or even a good one, but within the range of expectations particularly against an elite defense.

Then we get to the final 5 minutes of the game: 200+ yards, 3 TDs. Had the Packers just handed Seattle the ball on first down during that period, the defensive collapse would be an outrage. All else pales.

Anybody who knows what their talking about will tell it's all about how you finish.

Don't get me wrong, i am completely with you as you can see in my long winded reply to LTF in the Run Defense will get early tests thread

 

[TJV]

That's some pretty bad lawyering right there.

Since you want to lower the conversation to lawyering: Study the concept of comparative negligence. Sharing blame does not mean or imply each party is equally to blame. That is a basic concept even in everyday life.

Of course the special teams gaffs were impossible to miss. … Are they the overwhelming reasons for a loss? Not often, and not in this case.

With 2:13 left on the clock and the Packers leading by 5 points, the Seahawks onside kick and recover the ball. No single play was an overwhelming reason for the loss but this certainly appears at the top of the list. Again, a 5 point led and the ball was recovered at the Seahawk’s 35 yard line. The Seahawks had one timeout left and the two minute warning. If the offense finishes at that point the game is over.

The offense scored 22 points, a bit below the season road average, be it mean or median.

So your standard in the playoffs is to achieve median scores, either home or away? And I still haven’t seen you acknowledge the Packers median score in games the D intercepts 4 passes. But that doesn't fit your narrative.

Had the Packers just handed Seattle the ball on first down during that the 3-and-outs, the defensive collapse would still be an insult and outrage.

Sure, because they were near their median score on the road, right?

Anyone who knows anything about football knows finishing involves every aspect of a team. Never was that so clear as in the NFCCG. Recovering an onside kick is often a central play in closing a game. Guess what? The Packers finished the game today by recovering the onside kick. In the NFCCG with 5:04 left in the game the Packers had the ball at their 43 yard line after Burnett complied with Peppers' motion to go down. (No doubt in HRE’s world that too was directly Capers’ fault.) The offense lost four yards and used one minute four seconds of time. That’s not finishing. So: The defense didn’t finish. STs didn’t finish. And the offense didn’t finish. The entire team shares the blame for that loss. Anyone who knows anything about football knows that.

 

[HardRightEdge]

No doubt in HRE’s world...

There's no point in referring to me in the third person. No one is following your argument anymore. Even where it is first person, I'm not following it anymore either.

 

[Carl]

Of course the special teams gaffs were impossible to miss. The offending players and coach have been fired. Such gaffs occur on a weekly basis in the NFL. Are they the overwhelming reasons for a loss? Not often, and not in this case.

The offense scored 22 points, a bit below the season road average, be it mean or median. Not a great offensive performance, or even a good one, but within the range of expectations particularly against an elite defense.

Then we get to the final 5 minutes of the game: 200+ yards, 3 TDs. Had the Packers just handed Seattle the ball on first down during that the 3-and-outs, the defensive collapse would still be an insult and outrage. All else pales.

Anybody who knows what they're talking about will tell it's all about how you finish.

If it's all about you finish, then why doesn't the offensive finish make their whole performance bad too? Looks like you're only using that line regarding the defense.

 

[Joe Nor Cal Packer]

The poor play of the run defense today was not Capers' fault. In fact he was dropping a safety much of the time. The poor play was lack of execution. I suppose you can always pin something on the coaches. But the players are well paid professionals and today they failed. I don't understand why Clinton Dix is still throwing himself at the feet of an oncoming ball carrier instead of wrapping up.

If the poor play continues, then I'm going to look to the coaches to go back to basics if necessary during the week. If poor play still continues, give other players chances. There's not a lot to lose because without an improved run defense this team won't get close to SB 50. Terrible execution today. And it won't get easier against Seattle and KC.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I think it's safe to say Jones, Perry, Worthy were talents since they showing up in all mock drafts. Perhaps skills were not taught to bring out that talent.

Worthy has been cut by three teams since the Packers traded him to the Patriots while not playing a single down for any of them. It´s pretty fair to assume he wasn´t worth of a second-round pick.

These guys barely practice in full pads anymore once the season starts. I fear that the only way to develop good tacklers anymore is by drafting the ones that have proven on college tape that they can tackle. Dix is still bad.

They aren´t allowed to practice in pads during the season a ton because of the CBA.