Fußball-Bundesliga

[mhnessie]

I really despise stadiums with "track and field" inside it. The fans are too far away, especially behind the goals. I know Hertha Berlin and Nuremburg also have these also. I think it's terrible.

It also looks nothing like the current Cologne Stadium, but it looks like it's in the exact same place as the old one. Did they tear down the old one and build the new one in it's place?

Yes. But only step by step because it had to be used for Bundesliga games during the construction period. In Hamburg they used the old Volkspark Stadium, turned the pitch for 90 degrees and built new stands.
Schalke, Bayern and Gladbach for example are completely new stadiums at new places, Frankfurt, Hamburg, Cologne, Dortmund or Stuttgart were rebuilt.

Btw - old names again and to name a few:

Gladbach - Bokelberg (Borussen Park) - no sponsor
Hamburg - Volksparkstadion (Imtech Arena) - technical solutions provider
Dortmund - Westfalenstadion (Signal Iduna Park) - insurance company
Stuttgart - Neckarstadion (Gottlieb-Daimler-Stadion) - Mercedes Benz
Köln - Mungersdorfer Stadion (Rhein-Energie-Stadion) - Energy company
Munich - Olympiastadion (Allianz Arena) - Insurance Company
Frankfurt - Waldstadion (Commerzban Arena) - Bank

 

[PackerFan71]

Renaming your sports teams stadium with that of some faceless multinational is really something else it's a sell out too far for me, it removes all character from the place. But that's the way it is, the mind boggles at the business types next sponsorship opportunities to unleash on the fans..........

 

[Croak]

Aww ok then if you insist how about....... Die201Stadion.

I don't remember 2012. It's some sort of time displacement anomaly. I like Deutschermeisterstadion better.

 

[Croak]

Renaming your sports teams stadium with that of some faceless multinational is really something else it's a sell out too far for me, it removes all character from the place. But that's the way it is, the mind boggles at the business types next sponsorship opportunities to unleash on the fans..........

NFL stadiums do this all the time these days; Century Link, Qualcomm, M&T Bank, etc. I like traditional names, Lambeau Field, Wrigley Field, and such.

 

[Bundesbiers]

NFL stadiums do this all the time these days; Century Link, Qualcomm, M&T Bank, etc. I like traditional names, Lambeau Field, Wrigley Field, and such.

The Murph!!!

 

[Croak]

A lot of the Old NFL names used to be after an individual or a geographic location/landmark. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronology_of_home_stadiums_for_current_National_Football_League_teams

 

[Sandolf]

The Murph!!!

The Ralph.

 

[Sandolf]

@mhnessie

I was saddened to hear of the passing of Edgar Froese. When I reflect back on those early days, I conclude that it was specifically this kind of creative influence which led me to emigrate to Germany in the first place. At the time I was convinced that this scene could never manifest itself in Toronto, or anywhere else in North America for that matter.

Oh well. We are all getting older.

 

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@mhnessie

I was saddened to hear of the passing of Edgar Froese. When I reflect back on those early days, I conclude that it was specifically this kind of creative influence which led me to emigrate to Germany in the first place. At the time I was convinced that this scene could never manifest itself in Toronto, or anywhere else in North America for that matter.

Oh well. We are all getting older.

As in Edgar Froese of Tangerine Dream ????

 

[Sandolf]

As in Edgar Froese of Tangerine Dream ????

Correct sir.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

Correct sir.

I`ll have to search through my vinyls now

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

I went to a Tangerine Dream concert once after work, and the music was so hypnotic, I fell asleep. My date was NOT impressed....lol

 

[mhnessie]

@mhnessie

I was saddened to hear of the passing of Edgar Froese. When I reflect back on those early days, I conclude that it was specifically this kind of creative influence which led me to emigrate to Germany in the first place. At the time I was convinced that this scene could never manifest itself in Toronto, or anywhere else in North America for that matter.

Oh well. We are all getting older.

Froese and Tangerine Dream never got the attention they deserved in Germany, they were somehow outshined by Kraftwerk though many experts say that Kraftwerk would never have been without Tangerine Dream.
I was a little boy those days and I also remember more songs and more music by Kraftwerk than Tangerine Dream.
While writing this I'm listening to Tangerine Dream, it's timeless music.
Btw - even BILD is writing about Froese and Tangerine Dream, I have my doubts that the majority of readers ever heard of Tangerine dream... Interesting article anyway
http://www.bild.de/unterhaltung/mus...am-gaebe-es-schiller-nicht-39486236.bild.html

 

[mhnessie]

The Murph!!!

The Murph ?

Btw....found this interesting map on BILD

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[Bundesbiers]

The Murph ?

Btw....found this interesting map on BILD

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Hey... that map is perfect for me.

 

[Sandolf]

Froese and Tangerine Dream never got the attention they deserved in Germany, they were somehow outshined by Kraftwerk though many experts say that Kraftwerk would never have been without Tangerine Dream.

Thank you for your reply nessie. I do agree with you... although I have no doubt that I will feel the same remorse when Ralf Hütter dies... (assuming that I do not go first).

 

[Bundesbiers]

Tangerine Dream was before my time apparently. Never heard of them.

Rammstein was definitely during my time tho. I do remember vividly (not sure how) of hearing the song "Du Hast" played 10 times in a row in a Revolucion street bar in Tijuana, Mexico while drinking Negra Modelo with a Tequila popper. Which happened to be the very last time I ever drank Tequila.

 

[Sandolf]

Drawing comparisons between Rammstein and Tangerine Dream could be interesting. The most superficial view is that they would be exact opposites. Tangerine Dream is very atmospheric. Rammstein seems anything but that.

 

[Sandolf]

Tangerine Dream was before my time apparently. Never heard of them.

A school bud of mine, who was a fellow record collector, bought the first Roxy Music album the day it came out; then took it home and put it on. I was there. He played the first track and was immediately disgusted by it. I guess there were no Paul McCartney influences to be found. haha... I offered him $1 for it. He accepted.

Roxy Music led me to Brian Eno. Eno led me to Cluster. Cluster led me to the rest of the rest of Germany.

 

[Bundesbiers]

A school bud of mine, who was a fellow record collector, bought the first Roxy Music album the day it came out; then took it home and put it on. I was there. He played the first track and was immediately disgusted by it. I guess there were no Paul McCartney influences to be found. haha... I offered him $1 for it. He accepted.

Roxy Music led me to Brian Eno. Eno led me to Cluster. Cluster led me to the rest of the rest of Germany.

Hey, Brian Eno I surely know of. He produced many of U2's albums which I enjoyed.

 

[mhnessie]

Tangerine Dream was before my time apparently. Never heard of them.

Rammstein was definitely during my time tho. I do remember vividly (not sure how) of hearing the song "Du Hast" played 10 times in a row in a Revolucion street bar in Tijuana, Mexico while drinking Negra Modelo with a Tequila popper. Which happened to be the very last time I ever drank Tequila.

I know that Rammstein is and was very popular outside of Germany too. I like a couple of songs but I'm far away of calling myself a fan.
Because of the their style of music, their lyrics , the way Till Lindemann sang and their "Leni Riefenstahl"-style videos they were suspected being on the right wing politically.
Did you guys outside of Germany ever noticed this controversy and discussions about Rammstein ?

Edit: Btw and because it fits to this discussion, I'm listening to this audiobook at the moment, I think you can guess what or who it's about though you might not understand a single word ? To make it clear - it's satire....

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[mhnessie]

Thank you for your reply nessie. I do agree with you... although I have no doubt that I will feel the same remorse when Ralf Hütter dies... (assuming that I do not go first).

Kraftwerk still seems to be big in business these days, they played gigs at the Neue Nationalgalerie in Berlin recently.
Reviews were mixed though.

 

[Bundesbiers]

I know that Rammstein is and was very popular outside of Germany too. I like a couple of songs but I'm far away of calling myself a fan.
Because of the their style of music, their lyrics , the way Till Lindemann sang and their "Leni Riefenstahl"-style videos they were suspected being on the right wing politically.
Did you guys outside of Germany ever noticed this controversy and discussions about Rammstein ?

Edit: Btw and because it fits to this discussion, I'm listening to this audiobook at the moment, I think you can guess what or who it's about though you might not understand a single word ? To make it clear - it's satire....

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I wasn't a big fan of Rammstein, although I dug a few of their songs. I imagine most Americans did not know the politically charged lyrics in their music. I think they just wanted to hear their music in dance clubs. Dance clubs were never my thing. I don't think many Americans could tell you the ideologies of what German left and right wing politics are about.

 

[Croak]

I know that Rammstein is and was very popular outside of Germany too. I like a couple of songs but I'm far away of calling myself a fan.
Because of the their style of music, their lyrics , the way Till Lindemann sang and their "Leni Riefenstahl"-style videos they were suspected being on the right wing politically.
Did you guys outside of Germany ever noticed this controversy and discussions about Rammstein ?

Edit: Btw and because it fits to this discussion, I'm listening to this audiobook at the moment, I think you can guess what or who it's about though you might not understand a single word ? To make it clear - it's satire....

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I listened to a lot of Die Prinzen songs because I was told by my German friends that their pronunciation was a good example from which to learn. "Küssen Verboten" sticks in my mind....

 

[PackerFan71]

I know that Rammstein is and was very popular outside of Germany too. I like a couple of songs but I'm far away of calling myself a fan.
Because of the their style of music, their lyrics , the way Till Lindemann sang and their "Leni Riefenstahl"-style videos they were suspected being on the right wing politically.
Did you guys outside of Germany ever noticed this controversy and discussions about Rammstein ?

Edit: Btw and because it fits to this discussion, I'm listening to this audiobook at the moment, I think you can guess what or who it's about though you might not understand a single word ? To make it clear - it's satire....

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I never really got Rammstein at first, they sounded and looked like a right wing nut-job band but i think thats the opposite of what they are. There is alot of sarcasm urine extraction and irony in their material.