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The guy makes solid points
Found this interesting video on the Packers Offense. Thoughts?
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The guy makes solid points
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Yeah but honestly when you watch the play Rodgers throws late and that's why it's not an easy completion for the first down if Rodgers throws the ball a split second earlier it's a good play. Also the guy who is the "shot" on this "play action shot play" is wide open, had Rodgers waited a split second longer for davantae Adams to cross the deep safetys face that's a touchdown. A td that would have looked just like all those ones to Jordy Nelson on that same play. I remember when they were so good at that you could almost count it before Rodgers threw it. I honestly have been wondering when they will let mvs be the "shot" receiver on that play
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I actually stumbled upon this myself, it is really really well done and accurate.
Some valid points but some hindsight as well.
He blamed MM for the qb keeper, but Rodgers admitted he did that.
He blamed MM for the qb keeper, but Rodgers admitted he did that.
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I agree, great video.
Also, because of all pass plays called, it's amazing, Rodgers interception rating isn't worse and that might be the reason he's throwing the ball out of a lot bounds lately.
Has the OP found an analysis of this past game yet? Many of the issues from a one game sample that was actually improperly analyzed seem to have been addressed if not corrected.
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Fair point on the one game sample of the video examples. And unfortunately I did not have a chance to see the Dolphins game. Apart from the highlights and this forum, I do not have any more knowledge on that game. However I have to agree with this analysis that these problems were persistent throughout the season.
Who knows, maybe Mike McCarthy actually found the video in his Youtube Feed and adjusted accordingly. I guess we will only know that for sure when Brett Kollmann will be appointed OC next season.
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Wow, that was a great analysis! If I could only pick up on one of his points, it’s that the Packers don’t adjust their game plan to their personnel. This is something NE does every game. It’s also one reason BB/TB have five rings. There have been years (this year?) where Brady had much less talent around him than Rodgers. We know the record. Make it easy for Rodgers. Yes, there are many reasons, but they all stop with the HC. I’m not saying replacing will be a miracle drug for GB, that will depend on who replaces him. And finally, yeah, this O line pretty much sucks.
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According to PFF the Packers currently feature the second best offensive line in the league.https://www.profootballfocus.com/ne...ine-rankings-all-32-teams-units-after-week-10
If you're not interested in reading the article Jones had a total of 102 (!!!) yards before contact on 15 carries against the Dolphins.
You nailed it. If “deep down” McCarthy knows this, why isn’t he doing anything about it? No, MM has reached the limits of his creativity with an NFL offense.
That video was well done and extremely revealing. I knew they were not in sync as an offense, but this reveals simple bad play calling. Taking chances when they aren’t necessary, and failing to take chances when they present themselves. Pretty sad.
It just reinforces that it’s time for a change at the HC position. ARod and MM aren’t complementing themselves, it’s quite the opposite. The real pity of this is that these things can be corrected with the available talent on offense. It also shows why NE thrives under almost any personnel situation, as long as Brady is QB. (And I think in the season where they lost Brady in the first game with an ACL injury, that team still won 11 games. I might be wrong about this. Ironically, I don’t think they made the playoffs that year. But 11 wins with a backup QB ain’t bad. Well, if I’m right about this.....)
Interesting. I don’t think Rodgers cares though. The stat of yards before contact for Jones is amazing. It sounds more like yards after contact. But yeah he does seem to get into the secondary untouched on a lot of carries. That IS a credit to the O line. I wish the pass protection was better.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/ne...ine-rankings-all-32-teams-units-after-week-10
If you're not interested in reading the article Jones had a total of 102 (!!!) yards before contact on 15 carries against the Dolphins.
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the o-line is fine but they can't keep people off Rodgers for 4, 5 and 6 seconds. it's ridiculous to ask them to.
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It’s a credit to the oline, it’s also a credit to defenses playing pass and running in it. on them. Everyone is down field covering receivers, so Jones breaks the line and there is nobody there for 10 yards a lot of times. It's easier to get past 6 guys than it is 8 or 9 looking for you to get the ball.
I don’t think it’s creativity that McCarthy lacks. I think it might be introspection. I think he is so sure of himself and his ideals, that he refuses to change quickly enough to evolving situations. This is both a positive and negative trait. I think he has very high personal character and this steadfastness has contributed to a very stable locker room, and when everything falls into place, this translates to success on the field. However, when things like injuries, young players without experience... disagreements with his QB about offensive direction etc... creep in.... his effectiveness begins to wan. I don’t know if it’s time for Mccarthy to move on or not... but I do know the middle of this season is not the time... At this point, I’m just rooting for the team to win.
until the team is making all the plays that are right there in front of them to make on a regular basis, IMO, nobody can talk about creativity or lack thereof because if you don't make the play that is right there to make the play call doesn't matter in the first place.
I think the discipline issues, penalties some game management issues are all pretty valid areas to talk about. The "creativity" of the offense I think is just an easy low hanging fruit for talking heads to point at because everyone believes AR is God and and should win just because he's on the field. Much of NFL fandom has latched on to this notion and I think it's a false premise. Our offense is different than some, but not nearly as much as some might lead you to believe. And maybe that's because they play to Aaron Rodgers' strengths as a QB?
I think the discipline issues, penalties some game management issues are all pretty valid areas to talk about. The "creativity" of the offense I think is just an easy low hanging fruit for talking heads to point at because everyone believes AR is God and and should win just because he's on the field. Much of NFL fandom has latched on to this notion and I think it's a false premise. Our offense is different than some, but not nearly as much as some might lead you to believe. And maybe that's because they play to Aaron Rodgers' strengths as a QB?
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But wasn't Philbin brought in to improve the offense? It's only recently that I have seen any different schemes.
Maybe because he sees where the lack of execution is, the missed block, the player that slipped, the WR that round off his out route instead of a crisp turn, and feels that once the plays are run as designed they will work? Doesn't matter how creative the scheme is if it is not executed properly. A hobbled QB that on 3&2 changes an off tackle run into a naked bootleg that gets smothered is not indicative of a poor scheme.
