Eddie Lacy is still a free agent...

[C-Lee]

Wouldn't be surprised if his NFL career is over. Sad story.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

And guess what, Hundley and McCarthy are still in GB...……..
Along with them, and players getting injured, I'm hoping for a better season this year.

Hundley most likely won't be in Green Bay for the start of the season though. McCarthy has earned another shot at trying to win another Super Bowl with the team.

Then what? At his best, <4% above league average for a 1,000 yd. runner considered a "power back" speaks to my point.

I believe you considered Marshawn Lynch a pretty effective power back during that tenure. Guess what, he only converted 63.5% in those situations.

Like I posted in another thread, I have no questions about what the offense will do as long as AR stays healthy, which is what we have to assume because without AR we aint winning a SB anyway. To your point, the biggest key is just how much will Pettine be able to improve the defense?

Get it to a top 12 defense and we'll have something cooking. Hell I'll even take top 15 in the first year.

While Pettine might have a significant impact on the performance of the defense the Packers need the talent level of the unit to be improved as well to make a decent jump.

 

[Curly Calhoun]

Eddie was probably not destined for a long NFL career coming out of Alabama. Runs to contact, weight issues, etc. His productivity and durability have been in decline - Seattle realized they made a mistake in signing him and cut their losses.

He seems like a nice guy, and I wish him all the best in whatever comes next for him. I do believe, however, his days as serviceable NFL running back are behind him.

 

[PackAttack12]

While Pettine might have a significant impact on the performance of the defense the Packers need the talent level of the unit to be improved as well to make a decent jump.

I think Pettine will have guys in the right spots. There won't be near as much confusion and dysfunction. Strategically and schematically speaking, I think he'll have a 5 or 6 spot impact just based on those factors alone.

We definitely shouldn't be expecting an elite defense in the first season though.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I think Pettine will have guys in the right spots. There won't be near as much confusion and dysfunction. Strategically and schematically speaking, I think he'll have a 5 or 6 spot impact just based on those factors alone.

We definitely shouldn't be expecting an elite defense in the first season though.

I highly doubt the Packers have enough talent to feature an elite defense, no matter who is coordinating the unit.

 

[PackAttack12]

I highly doubt the Packers have enough talent to feature an elite defense, no matter who is coordinating the unit.

Correct, I wasn't insinuating such a thing.

 

[HardRightEdge]

I believe you considered Marshawn Lynch a pretty effective power back during that tenure. Guess what, he only converted 63.5% in those situations.

I don't recall ever saying that, though it would be the popular perception. I do recall defending Carrol's fateful decision to throw rather than run Lynch at the goal line in that Super Bowl loss I believe in debate with you. If your stats are right, where he underperformed the league average, that popular perception might be wrong.

Mitigating factors would be (1) the quality of the O-Line and (2) predictability. If one team throws 70% or the time on 3rd. and 2 while another runs 70% of the time, the defense will make the adjustment one way or the other.

You didn't answer the question of what Lacy did in this regard in years 3 and 4. As noted before, Lacy was on pace for 5 YPC and 1200 yds. in 2016. However, he ran 10 times in the red zone for 19 yds and zero TDs:

http://www.nfl.com/player/eddielacy/2540168/situationalstats?season=2016

That's the player Seattle acquired.

You can change the years on that link to see how his red zone performance declined each year.

Lacy and Lynch are power backs, but perhaps neither in the way folks expect. i.e., getting that one or two yards on their own, moving the pile at the line as opposed to knocking people down at the second level. Unlike Lacy, watching just a couple Seattle games per year, I can't say I have a definitive assessment of Lynch's running style.[/QUOTE]

 

[Deleted member 6794]

You didn't answer the question of what Lacy did in this regard in years 3 and 4.

Actually I posted the numbers for Lacy since the start of the 2015 season. In years three and four he converted 19 of 31 (61.3%) plays in those situations.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Actually I posted the numbers for Lacy since the start of the 2015 season. In years three and four he converted 19 of 31 (61.3%) plays in those situations.

You did? Where?

Even so, that number is subpar, and the confidence he could perform in that situation dropped given those limited opportunites.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

You did? Where?

My bad, I thought that I posted it in one of my previous posts. As it might be expected Lacy has struggled in short yardage situations since the start of the 2015 season once he decided to not put in the work necessary to stay in shape.

 

[HardRightEdge]

My bad, I thought that I posted it in one of my previous posts. As it might be expected Lacy has struggled in short yardage situations since the start of the 2015 season once he decided to not put in the work necessary to stay in shape.

As noted previously, with video, he looked lighter last season while his performance declined precipitously. Big Eddie was quickier in 2016 than 2015, putting up impressive numbers, just not in short yardage.

I don't see his decline as chiefly attributable to conditioning where the low point was 2015, though that's certainly a factor. I see it as more the typical trajectory of NFL running backs. The pounding and accumulated wear and tear make them rapidly depreciating assets. For some it's getting the love of the game knocked out of them coupled with having achieved some measure of financial security with the second contract. One can cite examples of running backs being highly productive into their second contracts (Peterson, McCoy, Bell), but they're unusual exceptions.

Lacy's conditioning issues only got him to that point on fewer touches than other backs with early success and heavier work loads.

 

[mongoosev]

don't need him. he brought it on himself for being overweight because of his lack of discipline to quit overeating and drinking. we don't need someone like that that will cause a distraction to the focuses on the more important issues of getting this team ready for combat.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

A decent read on the decline of Eddie and NFL RB's in General:

https://www.fieldgulls.com/2018/6/2...ls-rashaad-penny-chris-carson-seattle-packers

 

[gbgary]

he'll be a free agent for the rest of his life. i sure liked him. wish things had gone differently.

 

[mongoosev]

yeah it's sad to see such talent just fade. watched the pack vs. pats game from 2014, and the way lacy ran like a mad man would have left no doubt in anyone's mind he would have come to this situation.

 

[Curly Calhoun]

yeah it's sad to see such talent just fade. watched the pack vs. pats game from 2014, and the way lacy ran like a mad man would have left no doubt in anyone's mind he would have come to this situation.

He definitely had his moments. One of my personal favorites was his sixty-yard run to open the second half against the Cowboys in Dallas. At the time, Dallas had a 26-3 lead, and Matt Flynn was your Packer quarterback. Lacy's run sparked a comeback that left the homefolks in Big D shocked…..

 

[gbgary]

eddie isn't out of football now because he was heavy. it's because he's 60. lol

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[El Guapo]

I had to verify that this wasn't a joke. That really is his Twitter profile picture. What the ?#%! He looks older than me! I thought maybe that was his father, but his father is bald.

Yikes.

 

[tynimiller]

It's a filter fellas...granted he hasn't slimmed down, but he isn't that gray.

 

[tynimiller]

At least I'm assuming it is...or hoping.....LOL

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

It's a filter fellas...granted he hasn't slimmed down, but he isn't that gray.

At least I'm assuming it is...or hoping.....LOL

Well its the image he has been using on his Twitter account, so I guess the joke is on him?

https://twitter.com/lil_eazy_ana_42

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Lacy used a filter to see what his old man self will look like.

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[gbgary]

At least I'm assuming it is...or hoping.....LOL

yup. pretty funny though.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Aaron has had a rough off season trying to stay in shape too

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[Sanguine camper]

Looks like AR was downing a few too many deep fried cheese curds and topping it off with 2 liters of Pepsi. Hilarious!