Drafting the Next Franchise QB

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Article posted by ESPN... (take it for what its worth)

When is the year we draft the successor?

Are the Packers drafting a more mobile quarterback or one that mirrors both Favre and Rodgers?\

This thread will probably not go far because it been hashed out already but just some food for thought as per ESPN would GB really go with a QB at #14 this year if some fell in the draft...

Discuss..
 

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No chance.. I say in two years or so draft a qb Higher. as long as Rodgers plays at a high level. I’m not to worried right now I don’t wanna think about the next franchise guy im almost 30 and only had to experience two qbs in my era as a fan. But we need a better backup for now
 
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No chance.. I say in two years or so draft a qb Higher. as long as Rodgers plays at a high level. I’m not to worried right now I don’t wanna think about the next franchise guy im almost 30 and only had to experience two qbs in my era as a fan. But we need a better backup for now

I am 30 and from Michigan... I have friends who are Lions fans who whine and complain about their (x amount of QBs) .. I am blessed as a fan of the Pack, 2 QBs is unheard of...

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I am 30 and from Michigan... I have friends who are Lions fans who whine and complain about their (x amount of QBs) .. I am blessed as a fan of the Pack, 2 QBs is unheard of...

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Kudos man!! It’s been nice huh for what’s it worth I don’t think we are gonna get Rodgers Favre guy after Rodgers I hope I’m wrong lol my wife is a Vikings fan and all my friends are too they whine all the time too haha
 

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Hopefully the next Packers franchise QB will enter his Senior season in high school this fall.
 
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Yeah we’re a few years out yet. If Aaron plays for us until he is 40 (barring a catastrophic injury I believe he will) we are now 3-4 years from drafting his successor.
 

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Too many holes, too little cap to draft a qb high right now. We need talent around Rodgers while the window is open.
 
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What do you think of getting a young QB in camp and "season" him to play
once Rodgers calls it quits like the team did with Rodgers/Favre was still playing.

The only problem with that is most young QB's want a starting job out of the gate,
not the patience Rodgers had waiting on Favre.
 

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What do you think of getting a young QB in camp and "season" him to play
once Rodgers calls it quits like the team did with Rodgers/Favre was still playing.

The only problem with that is most young QB's want a starting job out of the gate,
not the patience Rodgers had waiting on Favre.


Rodgers didn't have a whole lot of choice. Most young guys, if you are talking rookies, don't. They sign 4 year contracts and if the team says they sit and wait they sit and wait.
 

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I know this won't be a popular thought, but.......
Don't extent Rodgers to a inflationary contract until after the draft.
If Baker Mayfield is available at #14 draft him and hopefully that will push Rodgers to greater heights, if Rodgers stumbles over the remainder of his contract let him walk.
If Rodgers picks up the pace then resign him for the big money and trade Mayfield.
It's time to start looking for the replacement IMHO.
 

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I know this won't be a popular thought, but.......
Don't extent Rodgers to a inflationary contract until after the draft.
If Baker Mayfield is available at #14 draft him and hopefully that will push Rodgers to greater heights, if Rodgers stumbles over the remainder of his contract let him walk.
If Rodgers picks up the pace then resign him for the big money and trade Mayfield.
It's time to start looking for the replacement IMHO.
I don't think we need to motivate Rodgers at all. When you are one of the best in history, you aren't that worried about who is behind you. I'm not against looking for a replacement, but that is for development and injury insurance purposes. Not to leverage negotiations or to motivate AR.
 

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the Packers won't be a position to draft a franchise qb until Rodgers is gone and they're dregs of the league...or unless something stupid happens like when they got Rodgers. their best chance is this year and they'll have to trade Rodgers to cle to do it...but that ain't happenin'. as far as mobility goes...few are more mobile than Rodgers?
 
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Aaron deserves the respect he's earned. He himself said he would prefer to retire with the GBP and we should try our best to accommodate him. No team is making a great decision walking away from very possibly the best player to ever play the game of professional football. I don't think some fans still have grasped how good of a QB he is. He's legit at around 35M in annual worth at his current level of play IMO. That historic number very well may drop over the next 5 years and that is the angle I would use to wrap him up on a 4yr extension for 110-115M range with 75M guaranteed.
 
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He himself said he would prefer to retire with the GBP and we should try our best to accommodate him.

Not so long ago it was reported that he didn't expect to retire as a Packer fan and could possible play with another team,
and gave the leaving of Favre as his example.
I was wondering all along why he'd make that statement unless he thought his contract wasn't going well.

Anyone else remember hearing that??
 
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Not so long ago it was reported that he didn't expect to retire as a Packer fan and could possible play with another team,
and gave the leaving of Favre as his example.
I was wondering all along why he'd make that statement unless he thought his contract wasn't going well.

Anyone else remember hearing that??
I don't specifically remember that. Was it more of a generality of just exploring what other QB's have done, I'm not sure. I've been unofficially and indirectly told to keep my links within 5 years old.. :cry: so here it goes..

https://www.thefootballfeed.com/nfl-news/aaron-rodgers-talks-retirement
 
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Yes I guess you have to be prepared for anything in this league. This has always been a young man's sport, but here's why I don't think the Brett Favre example is a good comparison to Aaron, even though I concede, he said himself "its possible" he'd retire elsewhere. Being possible and probable are 2 different animals.

We all remember Brett announcing his retirement on more than one occasion and then changing his mind. He had tearful goodbyes on National T.V. and then a couple of months later (or whatever) he suddenly wants to play again. Brett Favre played the quintessential "Boy who Cried Wolf" act and IMO, I believe it started before being broadcast on National TV. The GBP were smart to get his successor because of it and he really forced them to for all practical purposes. Brett Favre actually believed he was invincible to a degree (which is what made him who he is) and even after knowing they drafted Rodgers several years earlier, he had the audacity to come back after formerly retiring and suddenly wanted to play again and he even did that very late considering. Unfortunately (depending on your point of view at that time) it was too little too late. The team had decided to move on and build a team around their new QB and the we all know the rest of the story.

Here's where Aaron's story differs. He said he wanted to play into his 40's and retire with the Packers. Many fans would agree that Aaron is in better shape at this point of his career (yes even with the collar bone breaks). He sat on the bench for 3 years (not including the games he missed due to the collar bone, calf muscle etc..) so he doesn't have the mileage that Brett had when he turned 34. It is also widely known that Aaron takes care of his body better overall. Another point is that Aaron is also a better QB by comparison of actual statistical information with the same number of games started compared to Brett Favre, so one could argue Aaron has a greater degree of error of acceptable margin before his numbers drop to an unacceptable level of play. What made Favre great was he was a solid QB that also played through pain (granted through some good pain meds).

Don't misunderstand me, a team should always have a backup plan, but with the number of FA veterans that are in this league there is always options to trade for a backup on short term notice etc.. until said team can fix their situation if someone just suddenly calls it quits. I don't think this is the appropriate time to draft his successor and if anything you might just promote Aaron to leaving earlier than he wants to by doing that. I do however think we need an adequate veteran backup solution in the meantime
 
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Article posted by ESPN... (take it for what its worth)

When is the year we draft the successor?

Are the Packers drafting a more mobile quarterback or one that mirrors both Favre and Rodgers?\

This thread will probably not go far because it been hashed out already but just some food for thought as per ESPN would GB really go with a QB at #14 this year if some fell in the draft...

Discuss..
You draft that guy with the expectation he will be your guy by his 3rd. or 4th. season. So unless you envision Rodgers departure by age 37 or 38, you're going to have a high value pick sitting on the bench and then ditching in free agency if he's proven any worth. Consider Jimmy G. Were it not for Brady and his air pump, he would have been an unknown quantity in FA and an utterly wasted pick.

The other issue is having a guy to carry things along in the event of a Rodgers injury and what that's worth to you. The Packers will not have that kind of roster this year as was evident last year. There's no plugging in a Foles and winning with this team.

So at least for this draft, no.

If the Packers were to spend the #14 on a QB that would mean they are not extending Rodgers and are buying insurance in the event no deal gets by the time the clock runs out. The odds of that are merely non-zero.
 
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Article posted by ESPN... (take it for what its worth)

When is the year we draft the successor?

Are the Packers drafting a more mobile quarterback or one that mirrors both Favre and Rodgers?\

This thread will probably not go far because it been hashed out already but just some food for thought as per ESPN would GB really go with a QB at #14 this year if some fell in the draft...

Discuss..

Rodgers has repeatedly mentioned he wants to play into his 40s, therefore it doesn't make any sense to use the team's highest draft pick in nine years on a quarterback who will most likely be gone after his rookie contract expires.

I know this won't be a popular thought, but.......
Don't extent Rodgers to a inflationary contract until after the draft.
If Baker Mayfield is available at #14 draft him and hopefully that will push Rodgers to greater heights, if Rodgers stumbles over the remainder of his contract let him walk.
If Rodgers picks up the pace then resign him for the big money and trade Mayfield.
It's time to start looking for the replacement IMHO.

Rodgers is the most efficient quarterback in league history. As long as he doesn't show any signs of decline it's way too early to think about his replacement.
 
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