Best and Worst PFF Grades vs Niners

[tynimiller]

10 snap minimum as always...and fair warning some guys had their best games of their careers arguably...

BEST OFFENSE (guys we had 13 guys with 10 snaps or more that were 60.9 or higher)
Malik Heath - 92.3
Elgton Jenkins - 86.6
Josh Jacobs - 86.3
Zach Tom - 78.8
Emanuel Wilson - 75.9

WORST OFFENSE
Sean Rhyan - 33.8
Christian Watson - 47.1
Ben Sims - 55.6
Chris Brooks - 57.7 (he has been getting second most snaps over Wilson)
Bo Melton - 58.2

BEST DEFENSE (we had 11 with 10 snaps or more over 60)
Quay Walker - 91.4
Javon Bullard - 84.9
Keisean Nixon - 83.2
Lukas Van Ness - 82.9
Brenton Cox - 79.9

WORST DEFENSE
Carrington Valentine - 29.5
Eric Stokes - 47.8
Colby Wooden - 48.5
Kingsley Enagbare - 54.5
Devonte Wyatt - 54.9

 

[gopkrs]

I have to believe that one bad play or one good one affects the grades here too much. Someday, I guess, there will be a service that can actually see the game as a whole for each player. Not that I am going to like it. Those things should be for a smart coach. Too many stats around for me. It makes fans think they actually know what is happening.

 

[AmishMafia]

BEST DEFENSE (we had 11 with 10 snaps or more over 60)
Quay Walker - 91.4

Thought he was playing good, but the best? Hope it's not a fluke and a light turned on there.

 

[tynimiller]

I have to believe that one bad play or one good one affects the grades here too much. Someday, I guess, there will be a service that can actually see the game as a whole for each player. Not that I am going to like it. Those things should be for a smart coach. Too many stats around for me. It makes fans think they actually know what is happening.

Anytime you have humans grading each play for a player in a game or attempting to, you're going to have subjective results for sure. Having watched the All22 a few times and really isolating on defense Evan Williams, Nixon, Quay and LVN because three of those have been BAD and one because I freaking love him (Williams) I don't disagree with their grades truly that much relatively I'd have had them ranked equally as to where they were.

Big plays change the tide of games I am sure is why they likely have a multiplier that can work both ways good/bad for plays - just a guess, I have no affiliation with PFF>

 

[tynimiller]

Thought he was playing good, but the best? Hope it's not a fluke and a light turned on there.

Quay actually looked like a clear NFL starter this game....against very good runners. I hate to say it though - he still isn't that to me, one game doesn't change my mind.

 

[gopkrs]

Quay actually looked like a clear NFL starter this game....against very good runners. I hate to say it though - he still isn't that to me, one game doesn't change my mind.

I thought he played well and glad to see it. But two things I didn't like. Both goal line plays. 1. If he wants to stop a back from scoring; he can't just wait for him on the goal line. He has to commit and run ahead to knock him back. and 2. He should forget about his responsibilities when he sees a receiver running free to the back of the endzone. He should cover him.

 

[OldSchool101]

Quay actually looked like a clear NFL starter this game....against very good runners. I hate to say it though - he still isn't that to me, one game doesn't change my mind.

I agree. That said it’s my opinion that much of our global grading on Quay is based on his draft stock (expectation). There’s nothing wrong with that, it’s also warranted. As fans, we should expect a Day 1 draft selection to perform at a high level. Especially at iLB with the #22 overall.

That said, if we took the expectation completely away, would he be a bad player for a player drafted in Round 3 or Round 5? No. Would he not win a starting role across the NFL? Absolutely he would on many teams.

PS. He had several plays where he was in the backfield bearing down on the QB and that’s the last guy you want to meet he’s a very physical tackler and will gladly break your back in exchange for a yellow flag. He likes to hurt people. Lol

 

[tynimiller]

I agree. That said it’s my opinion that much of our global grading on Quay is based on his draft stock (expectation). There’s nothing wrong with that, it’s also warranted. As fans, we should expect a Day 1 draft selection to perform at a high level. Especially at iLB with the #22 overall.

That said, if we took the expectation completely away, would he be a bad player for a player drafted in Round 3 or Round 5? No. Would he not win a starting role across the NFL? Absolutely he would on many teams.

PS. He had several plays where he was in the backfield bearing down on the QB and that’s the last guy you want to meet he’s a very physical tackler and will gladly break your back in exchange for a yellow flag. He likes to hurt people. Lol

He isn't a primary starter off ball for NFL teams is how I've always discussed him - however, health and his athletic abilities absolutely keep him in the league for a long time I bet. Many struggle with mixing grading a players draft pick and discussing the player's performance on the field.

Bad thing is if Quay ever puts it together I strongly think it is on his second contract, which likely won't be in GB.