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I haven't done one of these yet. This is sort of a combination of guys I like and what I think the Packers might actually do.

Going into the draft, I am assuming that the Packers hold out for an Alexander deal and come up with a 5th round pick. I could see something like that happening after day 2 when teams that went into the draft looking for an impact corner come away without one. Also as I mock round 1, a lot of popular names for GB are gone (McMillan, Banks, Grant, Harmon, Stewart, Williams).

1.23-- Maxwell Hairston, CB, Kentucky: Corner hasn't been at the top of my list lately, but going into the offseason (i.e. right after watching the Packers play defense), it was my #1 need for this team with a bullet. Hairston was initially a really distasteful pick to me because he's light and had a shoulder issue. However, the reports on the shoulder is that it was nothing serious and he ended up missing time because of an infection. He's also working out right now in the 190's, which indicates that the 183# mark was maybe just his forty weight for the combine.

Hairston on the field is in the discussion for the best corner in the draft. He doesn't have the elite ball skills of Travis Hunter, but he's no slouch. Right now, today, he's a better man cover corner than Hunter. He definitely has the best pure movement skills and speed in the draft class. Acceleration, deceleration, long speed, etc. There are no holes in his game in that regard.

One thing to consider in regards to his size: He is one inch shorter and 7 lbs lighter than Derek Stingley was coming out, with a bigger wingspan.

The main reason I'm making this selection for them is that if they want a corner, it makes sense to get one early. There isn't a lot of depth to the group overall.

2.54-- T.J. Sanders, DT, South Carolina: I think Sanders is one of the few 3T pass rushers in this class who could give you some legitimate snaps at 1T. He's surprisingly stout at the POA and can hold the LOS well for a guy who is right around 300. He also has the frame to add good weight (6'4" with an 81" wingspan).

3.87-- Tory Horton, WR, Colorado State: Horton is probably an elite athlete in hiding. He ran a 4.41 and jumped 37.5" at 196 lbs coming off rehabbing from a knee surgery. He was productive right away in college, has skills to threaten all three levels, and he's very sure-handed. His athleticism is highlighted in the fact that he averaged over 16 yards per punt return in college and scored three times. I think he could rotate in as a rookie and replace Doubs in 2026.

4.124-- Saivion Jones, DE, LSU: The Packers' visits at DE indicate that they are interested in the big boys. It doesn't get much bigger than Jones at over 6'5" and 280 lbs. If you plug Brugler's numbers in for him for his forty and jumps, he's a 9.77 RAS player (no agilities). He has the tools they're looking for and could bolster the rotation at DE.

5.???-- Caleb Rogers, OL, Texas Tech: This guy just screams "Packers" to me. He's highly experienced, having 35 starts at RT, 16 at LT, 2 at RG, and 2 at LG. He's their ideal size at 6045, 312#. His agilities were excellent. He profiles as a developmental starter at either guard spot who offers emergency depth at tackle. I could see him sitting for a season and then taking over at RG.

5.159-- Chimere ****, WR, Florida: **** tested like a Packer all day long and has the kind of vertical speed to fill a role in the offense right away. He's also an experienced return man and covered kicks/punts very effectively for the Gators, so he would have value to get himself active on gameday.

6.198-- Cam Horsley, DT, Boston College: Horsley is more of the traditional 1T plugger, but he has a little more juice than you expect.

7.237-- Jason Marshall, CB, Florida: A flier on an athlete to fill out the depth.

7.250-- Kurtis Rourke, QB, Indiana: Competition for QB3-- could be untapped value here as he played the 2024 season on a torn ACL.
 

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I don't pretend to know about Hairston, but I would like a corner who can tackle. I'm a little worried about that. Otherwise, I like the position mix but don't know the players.
 

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I don't pretend to know about Hairston, but I would like a corner who can tackle. I'm a little worried about that. Otherwise, I like the position mix but don't know the players.

I had a DB scout tell me one time something that stuck with me...."Ty you said you're low on (not going to put player out there) due to his tackling...if I told you he is an elite coverage guy in both man and zone schemes, but will miss 15% of his tackle chances IS THAT better than a corner who tackles like a linebacker but blows 15% of his coverage snaps a game?"

Don't get me wrong, its for sure a separation thing for me and it is absolutely something I scout for...but in the end that changed my whole mindset about corners.
 
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I don't pretend to know about Hairston, but I would like a corner who can tackle. I'm a little worried about that. Otherwise, I like the position mix but don't know the players.

I hear you, but I also think that prioritizing tackling in your corner prospects is a recipe for sucking in coverage.
 

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I guess I would prefer Barron if he's there. From what I understand, he can play corner. And there should be an exceptional d lineman or o lineman or receiver. Just my guess really but would rather have one of them. Not going to cry if we take Hairston.
 

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I was just dropping by to also say that yeah, Hairston just posted a photo with him seemingly weighing in at 194#. That would put him above our CB weight “threshold” and I believe raise his RAS from 9.63 to 9.91
 

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I had a DB scout tell me one time something that stuck with me...."Ty you said you're low on (not going to put player out there) due to his tackling...if I told you he is an elite coverage guy in both man and zone schemes, but will miss 15% of his tackle chances IS THAT better than a corner who tackles like a linebacker but blows 15% of his coverage snaps a game?"

Don't get me wrong, its for sure a separation thing for me and it is absolutely something I scout for...but in the end that changed my whole mindset about corners.
Why not? We talk about specific players ALL THE TIME.
 
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I guess I would prefer Barron if he's there. From what I understand, he can play corner. And there should be an exceptional d lineman or o lineman or receiver. Just my guess really but would rather have one of them. Not going to cry if we take Hairston.

I am somewhat skeptical of Barron. He really lacks length-- short arms, small wingspan. I also think that his best fit at the next level may be as a nickel/safety and I'm not sure I see the opportunity for that on this roster right now. But most importantly, I'm suspicious of players who didn't really show out until year 5-- he was playing before that, but he wasn't really on anyone's radar as a top prospect.

Now if the Packers feel like he can totally play well outside and that his breakout had more to do with the opportunity to do that in 2024, then by all means. He's talented and tough. So I'm not "out," but I am skeptical.

Here are the first 22 picks that led to my mock choice of Hairston. Let me know what direction you would have gone:

1. TEN: C. Ward, QB
2. CLE: A. Carter, DE
3. NYG: T. Hunter, ATH
4. NE: A. Membou, OL
5. CHI (Trade): A. Jeanty, RB
6. LV: T. McMillan, WR
7. NYJ: T. Warren, TE
8. CAR: J. Walker, ED
9. NO: S. Sanders, QB
10. JAC: M. Graham, DT
11. SF: D. Harmon, DT
12. DAL: M. Golden, WR
13. MIA: W. Campbell, OL
14. IND: C. Loveland, TE
15. ATL: M. Green, DE
16. ARI: K. Banks, OL
17. CIN: M. Williams, DE
18. SEA: W. Johnson, CB
19. TB: J. Campbell, LB
20. DEN: O. Hampton, RB
21. PIT: J. Barron, DB
22. LAC: S. Stewart, DE

So by consensus, the next 12 players would be:

-Walter Nolen, DT
-James Pearce, DE
-Donovan Ezeiruaku, DE
-Nick Emmanwori, S
-Emeka Egbuka, WR
-Luther Burden, WR
-Josh Simmons, OT
-Malaki Starks, S
-Kenneth Grant, DT
-Tyler Booker, iOL
-Josh Conerly, OT
-Grey Zabel, iOL
-Max Hairston, CB
-Trey Amos, CB
-TreVeyon Henderson, OSU


I really like Egbuka, Conerly, and Hairston from this group.
 

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Why not? We talk about specific players ALL THE TIME.

So one thing I will always do is protect the very few discussions and genuine contacts I have. If I stated the name there is a small chance someone knows the team that picked this guy, and then possibly decipher where or who my contact is. This was just last year in a discussion with this guy, so not far enough removed for me to say it IMO. Likely overprotective, but still.
 

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I am somewhat skeptical of Barron. He really lacks length-- short arms, small wingspan. I also think that his best fit at the next level may be as a nickel/safety and I'm not sure I see the opportunity for that on this roster right now. But most importantly, I'm suspicious of players who didn't really show out until year 5-- he was playing before that, but he wasn't really on anyone's radar as a top prospect.

Now if the Packers feel like he can totally play well outside and that his breakout had more to do with the opportunity to do that in 2024, then by all means. He's talented and tough. So I'm not "out," but I am skeptical.

Here are the first 22 picks that led to my mock choice of Hairston. Let me know what direction you would have gone:

1. TEN: C. Ward, QB
2. CLE: A. Carter, DE
3. NYG: T. Hunter, ATH
4. NE: A. Membou, OL
5. CHI (Trade): A. Jeanty, RB
6. LV: T. McMillan, WR
7. NYJ: T. Warren, TE
8. CAR: J. Walker, ED
9. NO: S. Sanders, QB
10. JAC: M. Graham, DT
11. SF: D. Harmon, DT
12. DAL: M. Golden, WR
13. MIA: W. Campbell, OL
14. IND: C. Loveland, TE
15. ATL: M. Green, DE
16. ARI: K. Banks, OL
17. CIN: M. Williams, DE
18. SEA: W. Johnson, CB
19. TB: J. Campbell, LB
20. DEN: O. Hampton, RB
21. PIT: J. Barron, DB
22. LAC: S. Stewart, DE

So by consensus, the next 12 players would be:

-Walter Nolen, DT
-James Pearce, DE
-Donovan Ezeiruaku, DE
-Nick Emmanwori, S
-Emeka Egbuka, WR
-Luther Burden, WR
-Josh Simmons, OT
-Malaki Starks, S
-Kenneth Grant, DT
-Tyler Booker, iOL
-Josh Conerly, OT
-Grey Zabel, iOL
-Max Hairston, CB
-Trey Amos, CB
-TreVeyon Henderson, OSU


I really like Egbuka, Conerly, and Hairston from this group.

Dang…DZ and Nolen all still there that situation Id be hoping for a call for a short slide back. Love the three you mentioned but also for me DZ, Nolen and Grant
 
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Dang…DZ and Nolen all still there that situation Id be hoping for a call for a short slide back. Love the three you mentioned but also for me DZ, Nolen and Grant

I will be surprised if they're an Ezeiruaku team. If they're drafting a smaller edge, I think they will want someone with more explosion off the ball.

I'm not wowed by Grant. I see the talent and I think he could be developed, but I think he's more name than game right now.

Nolen is a tricky one. There is a lot of smoke following him around. It's almost a situation where if he falls to #23, you assume there really are some character issues there.

Overall, I think there are attractive options on day 2 on the DL, but not so much at CB.
 

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I am somewhat skeptical of Barron. He really lacks length-- short arms, small wingspan. I also think that his best fit at the next level may be as a nickel/safety and I'm not sure I see the opportunity for that on this roster right now. But most importantly, I'm suspicious of players who didn't really show out until year 5-- he was playing before that, but he wasn't really on anyone's radar as a top prospect.

Now if the Packers feel like he can totally play well outside and that his breakout had more to do with the opportunity to do that in 2024, then by all means. He's talented and tough. So I'm not "out," but I am skeptical.

Here are the first 22 picks that led to my mock choice of Hairston. Let me know what direction you would have gone:

1. TEN: C. Ward, QB
2. CLE: A. Carter, DE
3. NYG: T. Hunter, ATH
4. NE: A. Membou, OL
5. CHI (Trade): A. Jeanty, RB
6. LV: T. McMillan, WR
7. NYJ: T. Warren, TE
8. CAR: J. Walker, ED
9. NO: S. Sanders, QB
10. JAC: M. Graham, DT
11. SF: D. Harmon, DT
12. DAL: M. Golden, WR
13. MIA: W. Campbell, OL
14. IND: C. Loveland, TE
15. ATL: M. Green, DE
16. ARI: K. Banks, OL
17. CIN: M. Williams, DE
18. SEA: W. Johnson, CB
19. TB: J. Campbell, LB
20. DEN: O. Hampton, RB
21. PIT: J. Barron, DB
22. LAC: S. Stewart, DE

So by consensus, the next 12 players would be:

-Walter Nolen, DT
-James Pearce, DE
-Donovan Ezeiruaku, DE
-Nick Emmanwori, S
-Emeka Egbuka, WR
-Luther Burden, WR
-Josh Simmons, OT
-Malaki Starks, S
-Kenneth Grant, DT
-Tyler Booker, iOL
-Josh Conerly, OT
-Grey Zabel, iOL
-Max Hairston, CB
-Trey Amos, CB
-TreVeyon Henderson, OSU


I really like Egbuka, Conerly, and Hairston from this group.
That might be the best trade ever by Jax. Move down 5 spots and still get the guy they would probably take at 5. I follow your thinking that the Bears would want to jump LV if they are all in on Jeanty. I am pretty sure JAX has traded down the last 2 drafts also.
 

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