A little love for Mason Crosby?

[Pokerbrat2000]

$1.99 as in one dollar 99 cents ? Hell, hire a spare at those prices.

Yeah I should have said £1.99 for our British friends and then adjusted it for the current exchange rate, but I just figured that would be accurate enough so as to not doink it off one of the forum goal posts.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

Yeah I should have said £1.99 for our British friends and then adjusted it for the current exchange rate, but I just figured that would be accurate enough so as to not doink it off one of the forum goal posts.

ooooooh, no need to get shirty. Have proper money like us.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I don't think Crosby has ever gotten the recognition he deserves. And I don't care about stats. All I know is that when he's needed, he almost always delivers.

It seems most Packers fans don't care about facts when evaluating Crosby because of having a good feeling about him.

Interestingly that's not the case with any other player on the roster.

Capt, I’m really curious about this. Of the guys currently kicking and that have been kicking since 2010, which ones do you wish were the Packers kicker instead of Crosby?

I have been pretty clear about wanting a kicker on a cheap rookie deal to spend the money saved on other positions on the roster. At the moment Rodrigo Blankenship would be my favorite.

 

[Mondio]

I have been pretty clear about wanting a kicker on a cheap rookie deal to spend the money saved on other positions on the roster. At the moment Rodrigo Blankenship would be my favorite.

at the moment, how about one from 2010, or 2013 or 2015 that is still around, still cheap and still out performing the guy who has been good for a really long time outside of 1.5 seasons?

 

[Pugger]

Has Mason only missed one FG so far? The first kickoff he had in Tampa was bad. We got lucky they didn't flag him for kicking it out of bounds.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

at the moment, how about one from 2010, or 2013 or 2015 that is still around, still cheap and still out performing the guy who has been good for a really long time outside of 1.5 seasons?

Once again, in my opinion there's no reason to pay a kicker several millions a year. The drop-off to another one on a rookie deal is mostly not significant enough to justify not using the cap space on another position.

Has Mason only missed one FG so far? The first kickoff he had in Tampa was bad. We got lucky they didn't flag him for kicking it out of bounds.

Crosby has made all nine field goals this year but missed an extra point attempt against the Falcons.

 

[Pugger]

Once again, in my opinion there's no reason to pay a kicker several millions a year. The drop-off to another one on a rookie deal is mostly not significant enough to justify not using the cap space on another position.



Crosby has made all nine field goals this year but missed an extra point attempt against the Falcons.

Yes, I messed that up. I knew he missed a kick but I forgot it was an extra point.

 

[gopkrs]

To lose a game because of a missed kick is a real drag. To lose a playoff game because of a missed kick is horrific. I am never secure but I feel pretty good about Mason.

 

[longtimefan]

Crosby may not play Sunday..

So we shall see how valuable he is

 

[GleefulGary]

I have been pretty clear about wanting a kicker on a cheap rookie deal to spend the money saved on other positions on the roster. At the moment Rodrigo Blankenship would be my favorite.

It’s easy to pick the names once you’ve seen them do good. Picking them before, a little more difficult.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Crosby may not play Sunday..

So we shall see how valuable he is

I felt a strong excited breeze coming all the way from Austria. Let's hope that isn't winds of change and "I told you so" blowing over most of us.

For that reason, I am fine with Crosby's replacement on Sunday going 0 of 2 on FG's and 1 of 9 on Xtra points.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

This situation is a good example of why I don't quite understand why the Packers haven't carried a K on the PS this season. I brought this up when the season started, thinking it was a no brainer for teams to now carry a 2nd K. With the new rules put in due to COVID, teams are able to carry 6 extra (16 total) players on their practice squads, with the ability to bring them back and forth safely twice. Add to that, the COVID rules require a player to be in "COVID Protocol/testing" for 5 days before they can be added to a roster, so not having a backup kicker on the PS is rolling the dice that whoever you bring in will even be able to kick in that next game. If Nick Vogel fails the protocol or looks like sh*t on Saturday when he is trying out and Crosby can't go, JK Scott is our PK.

I would prefer to carry a vetted kicker over some WR that is being converted into a CB on our PS. That K would have a chance to practice with our holder and LS and be more of a sure thing in the event our kicker was a mid week or last second scratch. You hope that neither has to be used during the season, but I think the K is probably going to be more valuable of an asset than your 6th CB.

BTW, in case people don't know, Vogel is the 7th kicker that the Packers have had come in for a tryout since the season started. Also brought in were Casey Bednarski, Chris Blewitt, Ramiz Ahmed, Chandler Catanzaro, Giorgio Tavecchio and Josh Gable.

Vogel kicked for three seasons at the University of Alabama-Birmingham, finishing as the school’s third-leading scorer. He made 47 of 64 (73.4%) of his field goals in college, hitting 19 of 23 (82.1%) in his final year

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I have been pretty clear about wanting a kicker on a cheap rookie deal to spend the money saved on other positions on the roster. At the moment Rodrigo Blankenship would be my favorite.

Come on man, why didn't you give me his name for our "bet" as your UDFA K when you selected a kicker? I'll answer that for you, because like many NFL teams, you went with the guy that you thought was a good kicker coming out of college and could kick in the NFL. Your guy didn't even make it out of the first few weeks of camp.

Yes, 7 Games into a season, Blankenship is now your favorite. However, a team doesn't have that luxury each season to decide what cheap K they want on their team in Week 7 or after the season is over, they have to make that decision before Week 1 and realistically, way before Sept, before another team grabs that potentially good kicker. Nor should you think that comparing Crosby's stats, after the fact, to this cherry picked list of cheaper equal or better kickers is a fair measuring stick, unless you also consider what the other 10 or so kickers/year that didn't make it in the NFL did.

So yes, every year there is a team or two that benefit from an unknown kicker on a cheap contract having a great season, but what about all those teams that go through several of these guys and still don't land a good kicker?

 

[tynimiller]

Mason struggling through some lower body issues...not practicing. Hopefully he is 100% for this weekend.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Mason struggling through some lower body issues...not practicing. Hopefully he is 100% for this weekend.

Thursday News:

Mason Crosby (left calf/back) was present at today’s practice indoors but did not come outside with the specialists.

 

[tynimiller]

Thursday News:

Mason Crosby (left calf/back) was present at today’s practice indoors but did not come outside with the specialists.

Well that is both good and concerning all rolled into one report LOL

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Well that is both good and concerning all rolled into one report LOL

JK Scott was seen attempting 30 yd FG's and muttering "Who is this Captain guy and why does he think this shiit is so easy?"

 

[tynimiller]

JK Scott was seen attempting 30 yd FG's and muttering "Who is this Captain guy and why does he think this shiit is so easy?"

@captainWIMM you gotta laugh at this! That's hilarious.

 

[swhitset]

Well that is both good and concerning all rolled into one report LOL

i would guess that if he is having muscle/back issues they didn’t want him going out in the cold air to tighten it up.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Still no news on Mason, but just saw this information and it really didn't dawn on me, he has never missed a game. I know Kickers don't get hurt much, but its impressive that he has never missed a game.

The Packers drafted Mason Crosby on April 29, 2007.

Since then, they have played 234 games, 214 in the regular season and 20 in the playoffs. Crosby hasn’t missed one.

Also, it sounds like Vogel had his tryout today, which must mean he passed COVID protocol, which would allow the Packers to sign him, no matter how bad his tryout was.

 

[swhitset]

I suspect he will be suiting up

 

[swhitset]

I suspect he will be suiting up

yep... i have absolutely nothing to back it up.... just an optimistic hunch.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

It’s easy to pick the names once you’ve seen them do good. Picking them before, a little more difficult.

Blankenship was widely considered the best kicker to be available in this year's draft class though.

Come on man, why didn't you give me his name for our "bet" as your UDFA K when you selected a kicker? I'll answer that for you, because like many NFL teams, you went with the guy that you thought was a good kicker coming out of college and could kick in the NFL. Your guy didn't even make it out of the first few weeks of camp.

I should have selected the consensus pick for best kicker available in our contest but tried to get cute. My bad.

You need to understand that I don't have the same information available on those guys than NFL teams though.

I'm well aware that I won't change anyone's mind on Crosby but hopefully there's no complaining from the Crosby supporters about not being able to sign some of our free agents at more important positions.

I don't consider it was smart to have Crosby count a total of $17.7 million against the cap over the past four years instead of saving $15 million of cap space and go with one (or as many tries it would have taken to find one) on a rookie deal.

@captainWIMM you gotta laugh at this! That's hilarious.

Agreed.

 

[longtimefan]

How much is it worth to have a win in Dallas for a playoff game

Regular season game vs Detroit that helped give them a home playoff game..

Those are just two games crosbys leg and foot helped

Like it or not, he misses they lose. And those are just two games.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

How much is it worth to have a win in Dallas for a playoff game

Regular season game vs Detroit that helped give them a home playoff game..

Those are just two games crosbys leg and foot helped

Like it or not, he misses they lose. And those are just two games.

The playoff game at Dallas was by far the best performance of his career and he deserves huge credit for it.

That doesn't change the fact that it's not smart to overpay for a below average kicker though.