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Interesting Hobbs $48M for the a CB that rated 110th of 223 CB's in NFL last year. Injured on and off last 2-3 years... Lots of money for a ?? Banks for $77M was 50th overall but 77th pass blocking (hope Love can run) and 38th run blocking (good news for Jacobs - but he wanted a WR to help him/them in the run game and that is a nada from Gute).
 
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Yeah, just saw that the Rams released Kupp.

I hope he's affordable and I hope that Gute goes and signs him

He would improve our WR room quite a bit right away. I would still want to see Gute use a high pick on a top WR. As we all know, rookie WR's for the most part, don't just jump in and start producing. A guy like Kupp on a 2-3 year deal gives the Packers a quality WR and less pressure to resign Doubs before this time next season.
 

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Kupp is simply not the type of player Gute gravitates to. Now granted every trend is bucked a time or two but I don’t see it.

I’d embrace it but don’t see it.
 
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Yeah; I'm not a big fan of the "we'll just draft a speed demon who can draw the safeties away from the slot" school of thought. We don't just need a deep threat at WR, we need an experienced veteran who can provide some wisdom and the leadership to the teenagers. That's why I wanted Adams until I saw his price, and would have liked to have had MVS as a Plan B.

Kupp can still be both those players. He's worth adding.
To the teenagers. That’s funny thank you.
 
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Kupp is simply not the type of player Gute gravitates to. Now granted every trend is bucked a time or two but I don’t see it.

I’d embrace it but don’t see it.
I agree it would have to be the right terms. Like really a 1yr deal with incentives for being on the field, but with team option for 2 years.
But yeah I get it, we tend to like to bring up the young’ins without interference from an old geaser. Lol
 
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Sounds like the Seahawks are pursuing Kupp. He may want to stay on the West coast and get to play the Rams twice a season to boot. Just saw the SeaHags signed DeMarcus Lawerence.
 

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Interesting Hobbs $48M for the a CB that rated 110th of 223 CB's in NFL last year. Injured on and off last 2-3 years... Lots of money for a ?? Banks for $77M was 50th overall but 77th pass blocking (hope Love can run) and 38th run blocking (good news for Jacobs - but he wanted a WR to help him/them in the run game and that is a nada from Gute).
Did they cancel the draft?
 

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Sounds like the Seahawks are pursuing Kupp. He may want to stay on the West coast and get to play the Rams twice a season to boot. Just saw the SeaHags signed DeMarcus Lawerence.
Seattle is also about 2 hours from Kupp's hometown (Yakima) and about 4 hours from where he went to college (Eastern Washington). Pretty familiar to him for a few reasons.

That said I would happily welcome such a signing. It would not exactly be "typical" for us but I think it would check a lot of boxes.
I've said before that I think we need at least two additions to the WR room. Before Watson went out, it was my feeling that we need a good "go-to-guy", someone who can serve as a security blanket for Love and get you the easy completions aplenty.

Kupp is not going to be that "Take the top off guy" like Watson, but he fills a lot of those other needs for me. He's one of the more sure-handed guys out there and does well on contested balls. Playing under McVay he is going to be familiar with a lot of the same "DNA" as LaFleur so presumably would not take long to acclimate. He's a great route runner and as mentioned IMO would really open up a lot of those easy completions, "High percentage" routes. To my eye we don't really have any one go-to guy that makes things easy on the QB in that way. And I think some of our young guys could benefit from having a veteran presence like Kupp. He's won basically everything as a WR.

Of course there is a big concern about availability. He's missed significant time in each of the last few seasons (I think 4+ games in each of the last 3-4 seasons) and at 31, 32+ he's not likely to get a ton healthier with age. He will probably not be super cheap either. Sounds like most estimates are going to be around 10-12m/yr. And I do hear some argument that a player like that takes snaps from your younger guys...but IMO at this point it's getting close to being "put up or shut up" time. Reed's going into year 3. Watson's going into year 4 (admittedly with a bit of an asterisk). Wicks is hitting year 3, Doubs is heading into 4. Melton and Heath are both going into their 3rd years too. I'm not saying it's time to bail out entirely, but if you've got guys in their 3rd/4th years who are getting beaten out by a guy who's 31, 32, 33 towards the tail end of his career, then maybe it's time to start questioning exactly what you've got and/or where their ceilings are.

Overall, I'd be very much in favor of making that sort of deal and double-dipping in the draft too, in all likelihood (As said, Kupp does nothing to replace Watson, that still remains but affords us more draft flexibility IMO)
 

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Well, one of my favorite times of the NFL year is approaching, Free Agency!

Will the Pack sign some free agents? I think yes.

Will they go after some big ones like last year (Jacobs and McKinney) or play small ball like TT?

I would like to see them come out of Free Agency with a top 5 CB, as well as either a decent DT and/or DE.

Out of those 3 positions, I expect Gutey to invest mostly in a CB, possible a DE.

WR and OL are the 2 other areas that I can see some mid-range money being invested.


Note: Mods, if someone else has started a similar thread, feel free to delete or merge this.
Small ball. Perfectly stated for TT.
 
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Imagine Kupp and Adams on the same offense. I don't.
Kupp stated that he would like to stay on the West Coast, that narrows it down to 9'ers, Chargers and Seahawks. Unless of course, the Rams resign him.

It is also being reported that he wants $12M/year. That might make him a "pass" for me.
 

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Seattle is also about 2 hours from Kupp's hometown (Yakima) and about 4 hours from where he went to college (Eastern Washington). Pretty familiar to him for a few reasons.

That said I would happily welcome such a signing. It would not exactly be "typical" for us but I think it would check a lot of boxes.
I've said before that I think we need at least two additions to the WR room. Before Watson went out, it was my feeling that we need a good "go-to-guy", someone who can serve as a security blanket for Love and get you the easy completions aplenty.

Kupp is not going to be that "Take the top off guy" like Watson, but he fills a lot of those other needs for me. He's one of the more sure-handed guys out there and does well on contested balls. Playing under McVay he is going to be familiar with a lot of the same "DNA" as LaFleur so presumably would not take long to acclimate. He's a great route runner and as mentioned IMO would really open up a lot of those easy completions, "High percentage" routes. To my eye we don't really have any one go-to guy that makes things easy on the QB in that way. And I think some of our young guys could benefit from having a veteran presence like Kupp. He's won basically everything as a WR.

Of course there is a big concern about availability. He's missed significant time in each of the last few seasons (I think 4+ games in each of the last 3-4 seasons) and at 31, 32+ he's not likely to get a ton healthier with age. He will probably not be super cheap either. Sounds like most estimates are going to be around 10-12m/yr. And I do hear some argument that a player like that takes snaps from your younger guys...but IMO at this point it's getting close to being "put up or shut up" time. Reed's going into year 3. Watson's going into year 4 (admittedly with a bit of an asterisk). Wicks is hitting year 3, Doubs is heading into 4. Melton and Heath are both going into their 3rd years too. I'm not saying it's time to bail out entirely, but if you've got guys in their 3rd/4th years who are getting beaten out by a guy who's 31, 32, 33 towards the tail end of his career, then maybe it's time to start questioning exactly what you've got and/or where their ceilings are.

Overall, I'd be very much in favor of making that sort of deal and double-dipping in the draft too, in all likelihood (As said, Kupp does nothing to replace Watson, that still remains but affords us more draft flexibility IMO)
A huge no for me and I love me some Cooper Kupp. He will cost too much and if he still had it the Rams would not have released him IMO.
 
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A huge no for me and I love me some Cooper Kupp. He will cost too much and if he still had it the Rams would not have released him IMO.
I think the $29.780M cap hit and the $5M roster bonus hitting on 3/16 had a lot to do with Kupp's release. As well as his recent injury history.

The 3 year $80.1M contract extension that the Rams gave Kupp in 2022 really was the problem and one that hits a lot of teams. Future money, based on past work, with no injury guarantees for the team, bites yet another team.

I would be fine with the Packers signing Kupp, but not for the straight-up $12M/year that it sounds like he wants. Give him a 3 year, $6M/year with incentives that could double that.

That isn't happening though. Teams are still willing to give players guaranteed money. Why not, its just sitting in their vaults and after all, they are required to spend some of it on players.
 
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Uggg....Former Packer LB Eric Wilson signs with the Vikings. That is a big depth loss for the Packers IMO. Wilson played more than 500 defensive snaps last year in GB. He had 72 tackles, seven tackles for loss, two sacks, one interception, two pass defenses, and one forced fumble.

Not sure what the Vikings paid him, but depending on how much it was, would rather have seen him back in Green and Gold.

I can't blame Wilson, the Pack had him on a bargain contract of 1 year $1.3M deal last year and his former team, The Vikings, probably offered him much more.
 

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I think the $29.780M cap hit and the $5M roster bonus hitting on 3/16 had a lot to do with Kupp's release. As well as his recent injury history.

The 3 year $80.1M contract extension that the Rams gave Kupp in 2022 really was the problem and one that hits a lot of teams. Future money, based on past work, with no injury guarantees for the team, bites yet another team.

I would be fine with the Packers signing Kupp, but not for the straight-up $12M/year that it sounds like he wants. Give him a 3 year, $6M/year with incentives that could double that.

That isn't happening though. Teams are still willing to give players guaranteed money. Why not, its just sitting in their vaults and after all, they are required to spend some of it on players.

And the fact his separation ability has PLUMMETTED two straight years. He just is a shell of what he once was.
 
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