2025 NFL Free Agency

[Sanguine camper]

CB Byron Murphy has agreed to terms, to stay with the Vikings.

The Vikings overpaid for mediocre talent IMO. Murphy does make some splash plays but gets targeted a lot and gives up lots of completions. If he's not gambling, he's not making plays.

 

[DoURant]

Darius Slayton a 3 yr deal to remain with the Giants.

Oren Burks, 2 yr deal with the Bengals

 

[Dantés]

I would like another corner.

 

[Thirteen Below]

I would like another corner.

You mean in free agency, or just another corner in general during the offseason?

If you mean this week, who do you have in mind? Who's out there who fits the pattern of Gute's free agency signings the last 2 seasons? And who can we afford?

Actually, your question got me thinking about a few things, and I wrote a several-paragraph post. But I cut most of it, and will paste it as a post in the "Packer free agency" thread, as that would be a more appropriate home for specific questions about Green Bay's free agency strategies.

 

[tynimiller]

I would like another corner.

I expect a second or third wave signing...but only way I think we see a signing here soon is if Jaire is really and truly done in GB. If so...

Kendall Fuller is an outside guy still out there...starting to get up there at 30 but still has played recent high level ball.

Mike Hughes is still a young outside CB guy that isn't quite our norm in physique but again solid ball player and 28 years old.

Asante Samuel Jr....this dude is still sub 26 year olds...yes coming off injury, but in his short career has played solid ball. Lighter than our norm but arguably higher ceiling than Hobbs or the guys mentioned above.

*my pick*Benjamin St Juste....this one intrigues me, but I'm bias because I really liked him as a prospect in 2021. Long (6'3' with 32.625 arms) and solid frame (200lbs) like GB likes. Excellent agility (sub 6.65 3cone and 4.01 shuttle) just isn't a speed guy but first steps good. Started 42 games over the last three years for the Commanders.

 

[Dantés]

You mean in free agency, or just another corner in general during the offseason?

If you mean this week, who do you have in mind? Who's out there who fits the pattern of Gute's free agency signings the last 2 seasons? And who can we afford?

Actually, your question got me thinking about a few things, and I wrote a several-paragraph post. But I cut most of it, and will paste it as a post in the "Packer free agency" thread, as that would be a more appropriate home for specific questions about Green Bay's free agency strategies.

Kristian Fulton

 

[Heyjoe4]

ex-Packer now TJ Slaton pikced up by the Bengals got two years $15.1 Million

Happy for him!

Did the Packers find 2 yrs, $15 mil too much for a DL who was primarily a run stuffer? This draft is pretty rich in DL talent as well.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I expect a second or third wave signing...but only way I think we see a signing here soon is if Jaire is really and truly done in GB. If so...

Kendall Fuller is an outside guy still out there...starting to get up there at 30 but still has played recent high level ball.

Mike Hughes is still a young outside CB guy that isn't quite our norm in physique but again solid ball player and 28 years old.

Asante Samuel Jr....this dude is still sub 26 year olds...yes coming off injury, but in his short career has played solid ball. Lighter than our norm but arguably higher ceiling than Hobbs or the guys mentioned above.

*my pick*Benjamin St Juste....this one intrigues me, but I'm bias because I really liked him as a prospect in 2021. Long (6'3' with 32.625 arms) and solid frame (200lbs) like GB likes. Excellent agility (sub 6.65 3cone and 4.01 shuttle) just isn't a speed guy but first steps good. Started 42 games over the last three years for the Commanders.

Who does St Juste play for? Interesting at 6'3" and 200 lbs. Might make up in reach and agility what he lacks in speed.

With WRs getting bigger and faster, it surprises me that the same doesn't seem to be happening with CBs. This is just from the gut, but most corners are lower to the ground - just under 6" - although more of them are ripped at close to 200 lbs. Is it just too hard for a 6'2, 6'3" CB to adjust to a good route runner?

 

[tynimiller]

Who does St Juste play for? Interesting at 6'3" and 200 lbs. Might make up in reach and agility what he lacks in speed.

With WRs getting bigger and faster, it surprises me that the same doesn't seem to be happening with CBs. This is just from the gut, but most corners are lower to the ground - just under 6" - although more of them are ripped at close to 200 lbs. Is it just too hard for a 6'2, 6'3" CB to adjust to a good route runner?

I stated it at the end of his quick blurb. Three years as a starter now four years for the Commanders.

If a guy is big and fast and has somewhat decent hands they're typically going to go WR...just what happens.

Darien Porter is a WR to CB prospect that a lot of people have pegged as a guy with IMMENSE ceiling and I agree that someone may get a gem in this draft class. My problem is I don't know if I want to spend the high (2nd round likely) draft pick it would take to see.

 

[David Ciembronowicz]

If the Commanders FA's pan out they will become a serious contender for NFC crown and SB appearance. The team is young, has an outstanding QB that loves being "the guy" and has the talent to back it up. With their new line, D acquisitions, etc. they are stacked and poised for a real run against Det./Phil and just about any other NFC team or AFC team- only if they play to the level of their ability. Just like Det the past 3 yrs. Wash. has determined this is their time and they are going all in...- the point here is a question, is GB going all in? or ?

 

[Heyjoe4]

I stated it at the end of his quick blurb. Three years as a starter now four years for the Commanders.

If a guy is big and fast and has somewhat decent hands they're typically going to go WR...just what happens.

Darien Porter is a WR to CB prospect that a lot of people have pegged as a guy with IMMENSE ceiling and I agree that someone may get a gem in this draft class. My problem is I don't know if I want to spend the high (2nd round likely) draft pick it would take to see.

My bad, you did mention the Commanders.

Darien Porter? Hmm definitely a guy to watch out for. And good observation on taller guys typically playing WR. Makes sense. I still think in five years CBs will have to be at least 6', 190 lbs, certainly the ones who will last.

 

[tynimiller]

My bad, you did mention the Commanders.

Darien Porter? Hmm definitely a guy to watch out for. And good observation on taller guys typically playing WR. Makes sense. I still think in five years CBs will have to be at least 6', 190 lbs, certainly the ones who will last.

The crazy thing too though is shorter WRs are also becoming more accepted...Tyreek, Tez Johnson (this draft), and others exist now that I'd never have suspected we'd see.

 

[tynimiller]

I'm going to say something I usually don't....there is a 33 year old FA that I think could be an interesting addition.

Kyle Juszcyk told niners will not be resigning and released. He still wants to play and is arguably one of the best FB/HBack guys that has played the game.

He barely misses games and has played between 470-610 snaps each of the last 5 seasons (537 snaps last season).

His last contract was 2 years $9.1 but niners didn't want to do the second season of it.

Could be that awesome little different chess piece for MLF to mess with formation wise and cheaply alleviate the need for Musgrave to block a ton (something he's still working on). He wouldn't see likely anywhere close to the number of snaps he is used to, but that would only expand his likely lifespan. He has lined up inline and in the backfield about equally and that is hard to plan for...he has even been slotted a significant amount and is a trigger for many bubble screens to WRs in that alignment.

 

[tynimiller]

Won't post as many of the signings today unless something of interest (division, position or size)

Jonathan Allen signed by the Vikings to a 3year / $60M deal

 

[OldSchool101]

So if Walker improves and we keep him, maybe we move the LG to OC and the guy off the bench to LG. Or if we lose Walker to FA, we have the player flexibility to shuffle things around. We are not forced into anything with any player and we can move the pieces around to get a great lineup out there.

Another benefit of Morgan is while not ideal from a measurable angle (I think he’s a Probowl Guard) I do think he’s able to hold his own at LT until another solution comes along.

 

[tynimiller]

Morgan essentially is going to choose who doesn't get a second contract most likely between Rhyan and Walker...I'll be curious how much they let him compete at each spot. If he can show LT promise there is a massive chance Walker is traded before the trade deadline in season to a team needing a starting LT. No doubt that would save the Packers some significant change in if they do resign one of the two in Walker or Rhyan, RG is always going to be cheaper than LT.

 

[OldSchool101]

And as for Adams going to the Rams, well that move just makes sense for everyone

I like Davante. I would’ve like him more on a team friendly deal around $20Mil annual, which was likely what it would’ve taken to peak interest imo. It just wasn’t in the cards and that ship has sailed. Where did Kupp go? hmmm

Josh Sweat to Cardinals reached a four year deal$76 Million

I’ll admit. I Would’ve liked that one, he was a wish list player when drafted. Physical freak with oozing talent. Although I still think this Pass Rush draft class is both above average in depth and quality. There are arguably a half dozen Pass rushers per round starting RD1. RD2, RD3. If we miss at one Day1? I see some really good ones in Day2. Jack Sawyer etc.

I'm looking at MVS deeper into FA as a more and more attractive option.

Now I know he’s not a crowd favorite. Yet Marquez makes sense from several angles. He’s a perfect fit in GB as
1. He doesn’t need to learn our O
2. He’s coming off a 1.12Mil contract so while it might take a little more $, he’s on the cheaper side and fits fiscally.
3. He just produced at a career high 22 yards per, which is Elite level on a small sample and displays his speed.
4. He fits what we need. An affordable solution at deep threat WR, but without the major investment and a stop gap until/if Watson returns in 2025.

 

[Heyjoe4]

The crazy thing too though is shorter WRs are also becoming more accepted...Tyreek, Tez Johnson (this draft), and others exist now that I'd never have suspected we'd see.

Yeah I mean how tall is Tyreek Hill? maybe 5'9" on his tip toes - amazing how speed and route running can offset height limitations. Conversely, it may make the guy even better.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I like Davante. I would’ve like him more on a team friendly deal around $20Mil annual, which was likely what it would’ve taken to peak interest imo. It just wasn’t in the cards and that ship has sailed. Where did Kupp go? hmmm

I’ll admit. I Would’ve liked that one, he was a wish list player when drafted. Physical freak with oozing talent. Although I still think this Pass Rush draft class is both above average in depth and quality. There are arguably a half dozen Pass rushers per round starting RD1. RD2, RD3. If we miss at one Day1? I see some really good ones in Day2. Jack Sawyer etc.

Now I know he’s not a crowd favorite. Yet Marquez makes sense from several angles. He’s a perfect fit in GB as
1. He doesn’t need to learn our O
2. He’s coming off a 1.12Mil contract so while it might take a little more $, he’s on the cheaper side and fits fiscally.
3. He just produced at a career high 22 yards per, which is Elite level on a small sample and displays his speed.
4. He fits what we need. An affordable solution at deep threat WR, but without the major investment and a stop gap until/if Watson returns in 2025.

Adams just made too much sense for the Rams, especially with the decline of Cupp. Nakua and Adams with Stafford at QB. The Rams are gonna be even better this year.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Morgan essentially is going to choose who doesn't get a second contract most likely between Rhyan and Walker...I'll be curious how much they let him compete at each spot. If he can show LT promise there is a massive chance Walker is traded before the trade deadline in season to a team needing a starting LT. No doubt that would save the Packers some significant change in if they do resign one of the two in Walker or Rhyan, RG is always going to be cheaper than LT.

I gotta believe Morgan would do well at LT, where I think he played most of his college snaps.

And on a rookie contract to boot. Something to watch for in TC and PS games.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Another benefit of Morgan is while not ideal from a measurable angle (I think he’s a Probowl Guard) I do think he’s able to hold his own at LT until another solution comes along.

Didn't Morgan play LT in college? I thought that was why he was drafted. And not sure about the "Probowl Guard" comment as Morgan barely played last year. Name mixup maybe?

 

[OldSchool101]

Did the Packers find 2 yrs, $15 mil too much for a DL who was primarily a run stuffer? This draft is pretty rich in DL talent as well.

Exactly. Thats the one area I’m oddly not as concerned with. Meaning I’m looking across this draft class and DL might be one of the deepest position groups in 2025. Across my first 20-30 mocks, I often found myself taking 1 earlier in Kenny Clark like fashion. Then noticed that I would continually cross paths with some really talented guys all the way into Day3 and I’d have to pass because I already invested heavy on heavy. I now almost exclusively wait at iDL until RD4-6 areas and often get one graded a full round earlier due to supply crossed with league need at the position.

I’m not going to assume we can repeat TJ (who was actually a converted standout Guard) later at #178 overall, but if ever we can find a good 0 Tech type it’s in this draft imo. It’s about the only position that does not concern me due to its abundance

 

[Sanguine camper]

I gotta believe Morgan would do well at LT, where I think he played most of his college snaps.

And on a rookie contract to boot. Something to watch for in TC and PS games.

Maybe it was the fact he was rookie, but Morgan was hyped as a LT prospect last off season and moved to guard really fast once training camp began. Not saying he'll never play tackle but I'd be cautious of any projections that Morgan is going to be the starting LT. Walker continues to get better. Maybe he's hit his ceiling but he and Ryhan are solid players who won't be a pushover to beat out for a starting position.

 

[OldSchool101]

Didn't Morgan play LT in college? I thought that was why he was drafted. And not sure about the "Probowl Guard" comment as Morgan barely played last year. Name mixup maybe?

There’s no mixup. Morgan might’ve been injured but he’s predicted to be a high caliber Guard. Almost every Scouting report reduces him inside and he’s projected to be a + Starter with huge upside and quickly. We just didn’t get to see his ability unfortunately due to injury.

Yes he played Tackle, but as he elevates into the Pro arena his length is not ideal, which is cause for concern. Not to say he can’t play Tackle, but just that he’ll struggle more against the higher caliber Pro ready Rushers who in more recent years benefit from increased length. His makeup though is Guard from everything I’ve read on him. Notice how GB didn’t toy much with him outside. It’s possible he’s a short term answer at Tackle and admittedly he can compensate some with his other traits and should prepare as such. Yet his <33” arms puts him at a disadvantage there. The similar problem we had with Runyon coming out of Michigan at 6’4.2 (but with slightly more length 33.2” arms), still short for an OT (unlike his dad)

 

[tynimiller]

Maybe it was the fact he was rookie, but Morgan was hyped as a LT prospect last off season and moved to guard really fast once training camp began. Not saying he'll never play tackle but I'd be cautious of any projections that Morgan is going to be the starting LT. Walker continues to get better. Maybe he's hit his ceiling but he and Ryhan are solid players who won't be a pushover to beat out for a starting position.

Morgan's impressively athletic and while capable of LT play for sure, where was the team's weakest point??? Easily RG which is why he was splitting reps and was quickly from most accounts out playing Rhyan despite dealing with a shoulder injury.