2023 Round 2 pick #50: Jayden Reed WR

[DoURant]

First Packer to wear #1 since Curly Lambeau almost 100 years ago.

Being reported today that Jayden Reed will now wear #11

 

[Caya]

you have a different definition of reach. I understand what Dantes is saying. They had all these big names still available. They didn't "reach" for the next best thing a round or 2 early because they felt they needed a WR and that was what was left. They took him because they liked him more than all those guys everyone has been talking about. They could be wrong, but they didn't reach.

When you watch him play, he looks very fast, quick and elusive. Maybe he just didn't practice the drills? Maybe he had a cold, or worse yet, a sore thumb when at the combine? I'm not to worried about his athletic profile.

Another note - he played well in the snow!

You want snow guys

 

[Raleigh NC Packers Fan]

Another aspect of the draft that I fully admit to not knowing, is how the Packer coaching staff feels about current rostered players for 2023 and beyond. The OL is a good example. I have seen a lot of people talking about using high draft capital on improving it. I'm all for improving it, but maybe the talent to do so, is already on the team and the coaches know it. If you look at the current 2023 players, the Packers are definitely not lacking in OL bodies. I may have counted wrong, but I see 13 players.

I expect to see a few more drafted today, as well as a few UDFA's signed. I'm not saying that just because the Packers didn't draft an O-lineman in the first 3 rounds, that they don't feel they need to improve it, but those improvements might come from within, at least in 2023.

I agree about the O-Line. If I was going to take someone on the Oline this year, it would have been one of the top left tackles in the first round as an eventual replacement for Bakhtiari, but with the run-on edge rushers, I am glad they took LVN.

We can draft his replacement next year if Love pans out and we aren't looking for a QB.

 

[Raleigh NC Packers Fan]

When you watch him play, he looks very fast, quick and elusive. Maybe he just didn't practice the drills? Maybe he had a cold, or worse yet, a sore thumb when at the combine? I'm not to worried about his athletic profile.

Another note - he played well in the snow!

This is definitely one of those picks where I the more I research him, the more I like him. Does seem to be a really good fit for the type of offense we run, I think he can fit into that slot role really well and will also be good on certain types of plays that we will probably run a lot of. He has a lot of the aspects/intangibles to his game that are required to be a good receiver.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Just because a team likes a player doesn't mean the pick isn't a reach. Gute could've taken Reed in the third round or perhaps even the fourth round and grabbed a DL like Keannu Benten in the second.

There are never any guarantees that a player will still be there a round or two later. You are right, on your board, Reed was a total reach. However, Reed obviously was very high up on the Packer board, both for his skills and position played. I also assume that he was higher on their board, than Keannu Benton or probably any other player drafted after him or they wouldn't have drafted him.

 

[AmishMafia]

This is definitely one of those picks where I the more I research him, the more I like him. Does seem to be a really good fit for the type of offense we run, . . .

Same here.

As Larry McCarren said, the guy can get open in a phone booth.

Saw some stats that he was the top prospect in getting open. Beats press 77% of the time and similar stats on man coverage as well. Realized this is the WR I have wanted the Packers to get for some time. Excited for him and what he will mean to this offense.

 

[DoURant]

I remembered hearing Reed made some very good impressions at the Senior Bowl, and this is what I found.

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[tynimiller]

Being reported today that Jayden Reed will now wear #11

I bet Watson may be part to blame lol. Sounds like he wanted 1 but GB doesn’t just hand that number over to a rookie…Watson tweeted about it right away too lol

 

[tynimiller]

I remembered hearing Reed made some very good impressions at the Senior Bowl, and this is what I found.

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His route running is crazy and he can make defenders miss with the best of them.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Will UDFA WR Duece Watts get Crosby's old number?

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[DoURant]

His route running is crazy and he can make defenders miss with the best of them.

From what I have seen, and read, it seems like he will get open. Not to mention, he is very elusive and YAC will be a big part of his game. I like that he will push for the PR job, and let Nixon possibly just be the KR with his possible bigger role on defense.

 

[DoURant]

Will UDFA WR Duece Watts get Crosby's old number?

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I hope so, if not, hopefully he gets the double deuce.

 

[Poppa San]

His route running is crazy and he can make defenders miss with the best of them.

I'll wait to hear what Jaire says about this during camp. I believe last season after camp closed he told Doubs (to paraphrase) that no one in the league will guard him any tougher than what he just went through.

 

[tynimiller]

I'll wait to hear what Jaire says about this during camp. I believe last season after camp closed he told Doubs (to paraphrase) that no one in the league will guard him any tougher than what he just went through.

Yup, and Jaire said Doubs impressed him too. Said a lot

 

[thequick12]

I remembered hearing Reed made some very good impressions at the Senior Bowl, and this is what I found.

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This is a good sign reminds me of the first time I saw Adams run that route on casey hayward as a rookie...they say hes not athletic but if you look at his ras card the reason his score is low overall seems to be his size not his movement skills

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Another plus about Reed is that he is coming from a Big10 School and has faced defenses that are consistently putting guys into the Pro's. That is one aspect of selecting players from smaller schools, that I get a bit nervous about. They are head and shoulders better than their competition, but just how good is their competition?

 

[milani]

I agree about the O-Line. If I was going to take someone on the Oline this year, it would have been one of the top left tackles in the first round as an eventual replacement for Bakhtiari, but with the run-on edge rushers, I am glad they took LVN.

We can draft his replacement next year if Love pans out and we aren't looking for a QB.

Correct. Getting to the QB and stopping the run are paramount. There were a number of good OTs taken even before we picked. But that can be addressed via free agency or next year's draft. Too many in the media expected us to draft great receivers. That means nothing if you cannot stop your opponent. Bill Parcells started his best teams with the D line and then the O line.

 

[Sanguine camper]

There are never any guarantees that a player will still be there a round or two later. You are right, on your board, Reed was a total reach. However, Reed obviously was very high up on the Packer board, both for his skills and position played. I also assume that he was higher on their board, than Keannu Benton or probably any other player drafted after him or they wouldn't have drafted him.

I think Reed was a reach for a lot of folks. He's not very big, has a middling RAS, wasn't very productive last season and comes from a program that doesn't exactly scream WR U. At that point in the second, there were WR's available who were more athletic and productive. I like Reed's punt return abilities and would've been happy to see him as a fourth round pick but certainly not at 50.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I think Reed was a reach for a lot of folks. He's not very big, has a middling RAS, wasn't very productive last season and comes from a program that doesn't exactly scream WR U. At that point in the second, there were WR's available who were more athletic and productive. I like Reed's punt return abilities and would've been happy to see him as a fourth round pick but certainly not at 50.

Don't get me wrong, because I have used the term "reach" before. However, what I and anyone else are concluding by saying that, is that we know more about the situation, than the people involved in it. Kind of like saying "jeesh, what does she see in THAT guy, she deserves better."

Anyway, maybe you and others know more than Gute about the Packers situation and the player selected, to correctly call it a reach, but I don't.

 

[Sanguine camper]

Dantes actually shared one from a guy that literally watches more tape than this whole board does that loved him. I know a concensus board I track had him in top 70. Another pundit had him in their top 10 WRs.

He was off my GB board due to size, but I knew he was lethal and wouldn’t last past the third…wouldn’t have been shocked at all.

Brenton Strange is a prime example of a guy that we all want to say was a reach…not really if you watch tape and study his production…he was gonna get picked but sure went touch earlier than I’d have bet but wasn’t shocked.

My “shocks” was Gibbs going as early as he did, Levis falling out of first, Xavier Hutchinson falling as far as he did, Ojomo the league proved to me I was wrong on.

What is there about Reed that makes him worthy of pick 50? He's small, had a middling RAS, had limited production last year and MSU hasn't excatly been a hotbed of pro WR talent. I like his punt return ability and would've been fine had he been available in the fourth round. Had another team gambled a second or third round pick on him, no problem, there were plenty of other WR's Gute could've drafted.

 

[tynimiller]

What is there about Reed that makes him worthy of pick 50? He's small, had a middling RAS, had limited production last year and MSU hasn't excatly been a hotbed of pro WR talent. I like his punt return ability and would've been fine had he been available in the fourth round. Had another team gambled a second or third round pick on him, no problem, there were plenty of other WR's Gute could've drafted.

Few things and again none of this is to say he is or isn’t worth that pick.

- his RAS is limited due to limited testing you’ll note he didn’t do everything, plus he is sub 6 foot and that really starts a guy behind some.

- Production purely on number isn’t what to look at often, if it was Roschon the RB from Texas would get knocked but he was behind Bijan…People Jones is a WR example of system limiting production not meaning he cannot do something at the next level. MSU QB situation was terrible IMO and they for sure had a system preferring to run the ball.

- Reed showed out against constant high level reps at Senior Bowl and finally was with QBs of high caliber and I think it confirmed to many of us that aren’t doing this for a living want it seems many that do this for a living were saying. Dude is incredibly smooth and plays very fast with the ball in his hands.

Personally I didn’t expect him to be a GB type but Gute has shown that they really want to find that YAC wiggle smaller framed guy with some of their atypical swings.

I also personally would have picked a few others, but it got one less when Mingo went already.

I’m hesitantly optimistic because I’m always nervous any smaller framed wideouts till they prove it - many have been lately and I like his build frame wise so hopefully.

 

[Poppa San]

- Production purely on number isn’t what to look at often, if it was Roschon the RB from Texas would get knocked but he was behind Bijan…People Jones is a WR example of system limiting production not meaning he cannot do something at the next level. MSU QB situation was terrible IMO and they for sure had a system preferring to run the ball.

- Reed showed out against constant high level reps at Senior Bowl and finally was with QBs of high caliber and I think it confirmed to many of us that aren’t doing this for a living want it seems many that do this for a living were saying. Dude is incredibly smooth and plays very fast with the ball in his hands.

Sounds like many of the same comments about Watson last year.

 

[tynimiller]

Sounds like many of the same comments about Watson last year.

You know what, in many ways it is similar, except Watson also showed just immense measurables, but just as he had to excel at Senior Bowl to show it translated, Reed much the same way had to illustrate to scouts "Look, I'm that guy...just in that system I cannot be" and he did.

 

[Dantés]

What is there about Reed that makes him worthy of pick 50? He's small, had a middling RAS, had limited production last year and MSU hasn't excatly been a hotbed of pro WR talent. I like his punt return ability and would've been fine had he been available in the fourth round. Had another team gambled a second or third round pick on him, no problem, there were plenty of other WR's Gute could've drafted.

I didn’t watch Reed before the draft and I still haven’t seen much of him. So I’m not here to be his biggest cheerleader.

But in answer to your question, it seems as though some people who study WR play really liked him, e.g. Matt Harmon.

But I think he helped himself a lot at the Sr Bowl. If you go back and read reports, he was one of the most oft mentioned guys winning the week. No one could cover him, from what you read.

 

[Sanguine camper]

Sounds like many of the same comments about Watson last year.

I don't think you'll find many people who consider Watson and Reed to be anywhere near each other in talent. Watson had great potential but also showed high production in limited touches because run heavy ND ran the the ball a lot. Watson is an elite athlete, Reed isn't in the same building. I think hesitation about picking Reed is well justified. For Watson, whatever questions about him were overshadowed by otherworldly athleticism.