2022 draft in greenbay?

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IMO, the event will attract as many people as the location can accommodate

I would agree with that statement if this was a one day event held in an arena that you had to have a ticket to get in. However, it is not. It would be an outdoor event, "housed" within the confines of all the land surrounding Lambeau. I doubt anyone will have a very accurate guess as to how many will "just show up." I can drive from Madison on any given day of the draft, just to check it out, as could any of the 250,000 people living in Madison.

Yes, Green Bay and its surrounding area hotels will be limited, but as many have pointed out, within a 4 hr driving distance of Green Bay, I am guessing you could have a million people temporarily housed.
 

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After this upcoming draft, the bar may be raised to new height$ that could be unreachable for other small or otherwise unsuitable venues, especially for a tiny market like Green Bay. It will be interesting to see how the 2020 NFL Draft impacts the NFL's choice of venues for the future.

It is being projected that the attendance in Las Vegas, my home for the past 30 years, could be upwards of 200,000 and possibly as high as 300,000. No big deal for Las Vegas since it is built to accommodate that many visitors all at once. Las Vegas routinely handles 42 million visitors annually and has the 8th busiest airport in the USA.

Las Vegas has 152,275 hotel rooms spread across a total of 355 hotels.
Add the RV parks, Airbnb and similar rentals, plus routine daily commute shuttles from L.A. and other relatively nearby areas. Those can be arranged as they already are for large conventions and trade shows. This means Las Vegas has more hotel rooms than any other city in the United States, plus the capacity for many, many more on the periphery (by commute). There are more than 62,000 hotel rooms on the Las Vegas strip alone. That does not include downtown Las Vegas. Of the biggest hotels in the world, 15 of these are in Las Vegas. The hotels range from basic hotels to hotel/casino combinations. Some of these also have resort qualities with pools, entertainment outside of the casino complex, restaurants, and shopping. There is no need for the NFL to hire outside entertainment since it's already built-in to the tourist infrastructure. It is also worth mentioning that the April weather is usually fantastic.

How will Green Bay handle enough visitors to be considered as a viable venue for hosting such an event?

Don't get me wrong, Green Bay is a wonderful city in which to live and raise a family. I'm an ex-pat myself and it was my career that took me to a number of other places over several decades, not anything negative about WI. In many important ways, I would give the nod to Green Bay as one of the most liveable cities anywhere.

But hosting an event for the NFL -- an institution that is powerfully driven at all its levels by higher profits and salaries -- is yet another matter. If Green Bay is ever chosen to host the NFL draft it would have to be because of sentiment rather than profit. That seems counterintuitive in today's NFL.

Again, not a knock on Green Bay but just a reality check for what may actually be the deciding factors in choosing where the future drafts will be held. The only hope that Green Bay and other smaller NFL cities may have is that there are some agreements in place made behind the scenes that would put the draft in other than the usual large venues that would typically be chosen for hosting such events.

Green Bay is a historic and quaint place to attend an NFL game, the best venue and atmosphere of any stadium that I have ever attended for an NFL game, bar none. That's pretty special as it is IMHO. But I doubt that would be the deciding factor for a non-game event that encourages heavy attendance.

My only comment is, the organization must feel that they can handle it or they wouldn't be trying to bring it here. IMO They are not trying to get the SB mainly because of the lack of available accommodations.
 

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My only comment is, the organization must feel that they can handle it or they wouldn't be trying to bring it here. IMO They are not trying to get the SB mainly because of the lack of available accommodations.

Oh it's much more than just hotel rooms, the article below will summarize it better than I can. But I would think if hotel rooms were an issue for a Super Bowl, they might even be a bigger issue for a Draft that could potentially attract a lot more people.

https://www.greenbaypressgazette.co...s-green-bay-never-host-super-bowl/2598039002/
 

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That's because I pay for the playground. We're putting up new playground equipment for you guys. You're welcome.
Do you mean that $8.5 million improvements in which the county is paying $425,000 for? Or the $6.8 billion for the new terminal that benefits mostly Basler? See, I know how airport funding works. And the local community pays a small portion of it. But then, I'm sure EAA brings in no money to the community during the year.
 
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Do you mean that $8.5 million improvements in which the county is paying $425,000 for? Or the $6.8 billion for the new terminal that benefits mostly Basler? See, I know how airport funding works. And the local community pays a small portion of it. But then, I'm sure EAA brings in no money to the community during the year.


Eaa have campers stretched out across fields?

Or is that country thunder?
 

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Oshkosh is hosting at least a few thousand for the boat and RV show this weekend too :) I thank you for your hospitality
 

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Do you mean that $8.5 million improvements in which the county is paying $425,000 for? Or the $6.8 billion for the new terminal that benefits mostly Basler? See, I know how airport funding works. And the local community pays a small portion of it. But then, I'm sure EAA brings in no money to the community during the year.

Not so much outside of hotel and restaurant...which is mostly chains anyway. EAA has become pretty much self contained so, economic impact is largely a straw argument.
 

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Not so much outside of hotel and restaurant...which is mostly chains anyway. EAA has become pretty much self contained so, economic impact is largely a straw argument.
Yeah, keep believing that. Like the Packers are self-contained so they have little impact on Green Bay.
 

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I don't expect you to agree with me...to do so would be saying that EAA is allowed to leech off of the taxpayers of Winnebago County and the City of Oshkosh. You should have heard them squeal when the city started making them pay something toward the cost of city services including water and sewer. They still don't carry their own weight... They're the U.N. of NE Wisconsin.
 

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At this point, would it be a forum faux pas to say something about the draft in Green Bay? I don't want to hijack the thread... :D
 

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At this point, would it be a forum faux pas to say something about the draft in Green Bay? I don't want to hijack the thread... :D
Careful. There is talk of aircraft in this thread. Using the word hij*ck in the same thread will probably ring some alarms somewhere in the FBI.
 

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I haven't lived in Wisconsin in over 25 years (sigh) but if memory serves me correct, the EEA is one of the largest airshows in the world. They used to call it the EEA Fly-In or something like that. If you like airplanes, want to see stunt flying, enjoy historical or wartime planes, enjoy the roar of prop planes and jets overhead....this is the place for you.
 

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I do think the NFL could do the Draft in Green Bay. It just wouldn't be as big as what it would be in other cities. But isn't that the whole point? The fact that a town the size of Green Bay can compete in the NFL with New York and LA?

Personally, I'd love to see it.
 

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It just wouldn't be as big as what it would be in other cities.

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Green Bay or any city with a facility large enough, could host the Draft. The question is, how do you control the size of the attendance to fit within said City? This isn't a ticketed event, anybody can just show up.

What is the number of people that can safely and comfortably be in Green Bay from Wednesday mid day to Monday? Once you arrive at that number, decide if THAT is the number that will actually show up or will it be more? If it is a lot more, what are the consequences?
 

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There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Green Bay or any city with a facility large enough, could host the Draft. The question is, how do you control the size of the attendance to fit within said City? This isn't a ticketed event, anybody can just show up.

What is the number of people that can safely and comfortably be in Green Bay from Wednesday mid day to Monday? Once you arrive at that number, decide if THAT is the number that will actually show up or will it be more? If it is a lot more, what are the consequences?
Well. First, there are only so many flights and seats to fly in. Second, are people really going to show up if they don't have a place to stay? Wait, we are talking football fans here. So, how many will show up with no place to stay? And really, in Nashville last year, how many people traveled to there for the draft, as opposed to how many people actually live there showed up? Interesting thoughts. I'd still like to see it.
 

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Well. First, there are only so many flights and seats to fly in. Second, are people really going to show up if they don't have a place to stay? Wait, we are talking football fans here. So, how many will show up with no place to stay? And really, in Nashville last year, how many people traveled to there for the draft, as opposed to how many people actually live there showed up? Interesting thoughts. I'd still like to see it.

I think you asked the same questions, that I wonder. I can get up to Green Bay in 2 1/2 -3 hrs, I don't need a hotel. Same with people in Milwaukee. Many of us might just travel up there "for the day the check it out". People might try to camp out, live in vans, etc. Yes, the Airlines and full hotels will limit those who have to plan a fly in and good sleeping accommodations, but just how many people can be in Green Bay at the same time over a 3 day period? Anyone who has been to Lambeau for a game can attest to the fact that the City is not very well setup traffic and parking wise for huge crowds.
 

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