2018 draft pick.

[GreenBaySlacker]

I like Kenny Clark, but every other name on that list is replacement level. None of those guys are game-changers or franchise cornerstones.

Haha was considered borderline allpro last year. He had an off year, and I have to believe there was a reason. Like scheme change, or a hidden injury. He will come back strong next year I bet...

Randall had a bad year last year, and followed it up with an above average 3rd year. If he plays as well in a different scheme as Hayward and Hyde did. He should be in the probowl next year...

The king pick was Basicly a first rounder. And he looked great as a rookie. He was put up against top tier wrs and held his own.... as a lanky rookie in a complicated scheme... with a year of NFL regiment, and a new, assumed easier scheme. He should be even better.

Perry is our $12 mil a year olb... surely he is considered good.

Sherrod s injury ended a promising rookies career. Same could be said about Justin Harrell's back injury/s too. Can't call them busts in my opinion. Because they never got a chance.

Anyways. This pick, #12 or #13 or whatever, will be much different than #29.

I want a top tier wr. If one is available. A wr whose rookie contract will be up the same year as davante Adams new deal is up... which means we have 4 years to make the decision of who is better. But right away we have a blue chip wr prospect to help #12 open up the field. Open up Adams, Jordy, and Montgomery, if a deep threat wr enters the equation. If #13 turns out to be a stud, then Greenbay is back to the greatest show on tundra.

But I suspect the new defensive coordinator will get the first couple picks. On that plan I'm going for a dominant dlineman to add to Daniels/Clark.
Another good large cb would be second on my list.

 

[7thFloorRA]

I want the ND OT if he falls that far. I also like Josh Jackson. Having 2 strapping young studs on the outside will help tremendously. However....we need a DC to coach them up to be nasty beasts out there and not the two hand touch princesses dom develops.

 

[GleefulGary]

I like Kenny Clark, but every other name on that list is replacement level. None of those guys are game-changers or franchise cornerstones.

Replacement level? I think we have a different definition of the term.

Not sure how many franchise cornerstones you expect to find st the end of the first, but I wouldn't expect to find any. Keep your expectations in check.

 

[brandon2348]

Replacement level? I think we have a different definition of the term.

Not sure how many franchise cornerstones you expect to find st the end of the first, but I wouldn't expect to find any. Keep your expectations in check.

Bingo! That's just it. When you don't use free agency effectively you leave yourself short handed and having to hit on high round and mid round picks at an extremely high success rate which Thompson is not doing.

End of Story.

 

[brandon2348]

Haha was considered borderline allpro last year. He had an off year, and I have to believe there was a reason. Like scheme change, or a hidden injury. He will come back strong next year I bet...

Randall had a bad year last year, and followed it up with an above average 3rd year. If he plays as well in a different scheme as Hayward and Hyde did. He should be in the probowl next year...

The king pick was Basicly a first rounder. And he looked great as a rookie. He was put up against top tier wrs and held his own.... as a lanky rookie in a complicated scheme... with a year of NFL regiment, and a new, assumed easier scheme. He should be even better.

Perry is our $12 mil a year olb... surely he is considered good.

Sherrod s injury ended a promising rookies career. Same could be said about Justin Harrell's back injury/s too. Can't call them busts in my opinion. Because they never got a chance.

Anyways. This pick, #12 or #13 or whatever, will be much different than #29.

I want a top tier wr. If one is available. A wr whose rookie contract will be up the same year as davante Adams new deal is up... which means we have 4 years to make the decision of who is better. But right away we have a blue chip wr prospect to help #12 open up the field. Open up Adams, Jordy, and Montgomery, if a deep threat wr enters the equation. If #13 turns out to be a stud, then Greenbay is back to the greatest show on tundra.

But I suspect the new defensive coordinator will get the first couple picks. On that plan I'm going for a dominant dlineman to add to Daniels/Clark.
Another good large cb would be second on my list.

Sorry but I think we're far more then one draft pick away from being dominant. There are holes all over the place not to mention most of the players we have can't stay healthy more then a few weeks at a time.

 

[adambr2]

When you throw in secondary picks like Khyri Thornton, Kyler Fackrell, Rollins, Carl Bradford, Jerel Worthless, Terrell Manning, Devon House and I could go on its a problem. Then you proceed to cut bait with Hayward and Hyde it's even more glarring.

I've noticed you like to cherry pick Thompson's best defensive picks. As a whole he is failing.

So if you're going to discredit TT for letting Hyde and Hayward walk, doesn't he at least get credit for drafting them? I'm also unsure that they ever would have emerged in this defense the way they did elsewhere.

A lot of the other guys you listed are 4th/5th round picks. I am not sure what you are expecting out of 4th/5th round picks. Some will excel like Hyde and Martinez, some will bust like Manning and Bradford, some will end up right in the middle like House. Same with any team, any GM.

 

[brandon2348]

I want the ND OT if he falls that far. I also like Josh Jackson. Having 2 strapping young studs on the outside will help tremendously. However....we need a DC to coach them up to be nasty beasts out there and not the two hand touch princesses dom develops.

It all starts with drafting the right mentality of player. Can't make a nice guy a "Ruff Ryder". Doesn't work that way.

 

[McKnowledge]

I would like to see GB go after another WR in the 2018 NFL draft. I'll be honest, I was rooting for TT to get fired; but that probably won't happen after Capers is reportedly getting the axe. Capers will be the scapegoat for the 2017 season debacle, and although not without reason, there was more wrong than just GB's defense. However, with TT looking to remain in place, I think TT will go all out on offense for this upcoming season...hell might as well. His picks have been more hit on offense than defense. Might as well build a an offensive sentinel (X-Men) cpaable of playing any style.

Anyways, I think with the 12th pick, GB should target a WR specifically. I was checking out http://walterfootball.com/draft2018WR.php and Equanimeous St. Brown got my attention.

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[brandon2348]

So if you're going to discredit TT for letting Hyde and Hayward walk, doesn't he at least get credit for drafting them? I'm also unsure that they ever would have emerged in this defense the way they did elsewhere.

A lot of the other guys you listed are 4th/5th round picks. I am not sure what you are expecting out of 4th/5th round picks. Some will excel like Hyde and Martinez, some will bust like Manning and Bradford, some will end up right in the middle like House. Same with any team, any GM.

We can talk in circles forever. The bottom line is TT hasn't adequately stacked the roster and this season's performance is proof of that. People are gonna put the whole thing on Capers and he will fall on the sword but Thompson is just as much to blame. The talent level isn't where it needs to be overall.

We are a one man show and we all know who that is. Pure and simple.

Way before the season I warned everyone of this outcome and the direction we were headed and I was laughed at. Now it is in full fruition. This is something I hate being right about as I want the Packers to be successful as much as anyone but the whole thing is a fraud. Without Rodgers were embarassing. Those are the facts.

 

[906Fan]

I don't know guys, I think he's due for a good pick! Nobody can be this bad on purpose:

• 2011 32 Derek Sherrod OT Mississippi State
• 2012 28 Nick Perry DE Southern California
• 2013 26 Datone Jones DE UCLA
• 2014 21 Ha Ha Clinton-Dix S Alabama
• 2015 30 Damarious Randall S Arizona State
• 2016 27 Kenny Clark NT UCLA

What's really going to help us in the draft is that about half the picks(6) ahead of us need a quarterback with the Browns, Giants, Broncos, Jets, Dolphins, and Bengals. I foresee us being able to choose possibly the most highly touted of a position in this draft because I think there will be 4 quarterbacks chosen before the packers pick.

 

[brandon2348]

I would like to see GB go after another WR in the 2018 NFL draft. I'll be honest, I was rooting for TT to get fired; but that probably won't happen after Capers is reportedly getting the axe. Capers will be the scapegoat for the 2017 season debacle, and although not without reason, there was more wrong than just GB's defense. However, with TT looking to remain in place, I think TT will go all out on offense for this upcoming season...hell might as well. His picks have been more hit on offense than defense. Might as well build a an offensive sentinel (X-Men) cpaable of playing any style.

Anyways, I think with the 12th pick, GB should target a WR specifically. I was checking out http://walterfootball.com/draft2018WR.php and Equanimeous St. Brown got my attention.

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I wouldn't mind going that route. I like Courtland Sutton, SMU better. He did more with less help. Sutton is an athletic freak with some scouts comparing him to Julio Jones coming out of college.

 

[7thFloorRA]

Rodgers has 30 mil worth of wr's. The last thing I am doing is drafting him another one. You are a HOF QB....make Michael Clark work.

 

[GleefulGary]

When you throw in secondary picks like Khyri Thornton, Kyler Fackrell, Rollins, Carl Bradford, Jerel Worthless, Terrell Manning, Devon House and I could go on its a problem. Then you proceed to cut bait with Hayward and Hyde it's even more glarring.

I've noticed you like to cherry pick Thompson's best defensive picks. As a whole he is failing.

He referenced the first round picks, so that's what I was talking about too. If somebody is talking about first round picks, it makes no sense to go "but look at the 4th rounders!!" I'm just staying on topic. I'm sorry that you can't see that.

And yes, TT has missed on draft picks. He's had some very bad drafts. He's had some excellent drafts. The draft is a crapshoot that almost nobody is consistently good at. If you expect TT to nail the majority of his picks in the draft, then your expectations are out of whack.

 

[brandon2348]

Rodgers has 30 mil worth of wr's. The last thing I am doing is drafting him another one. You are a HOF QB....make Michael Clark work.

Just because it's 30 mill worth doesn't mean there worth that. It's time to give AR12 an elite weapon. If anyone deserves it it's him. Weve been pumping so many picks into the defense that the offense has become somewhat depleted with lower tier talent. Clark needs to get bigger and work on catching the ball. Lots of development needed IMO.

 

[GleefulGary]

I want the ND OT if he falls that far. I also like Josh Jackson. Having 2 strapping young studs on the outside will help tremendously. However....we need a DC to coach them up to be nasty beasts out there and not the two hand touch princesses dom develops.

Not a McGlinchley fan in the 1st. He doesn't handle speed rushers well (he was abused in the Miami game) and he's just an ok run blocker. Pass on him.

 

[brandon2348]

He referenced the first round picks, so that's what I was talking about too. If somebody is talking about first round picks, it makes no sense to go "but look at the 4th rounders!!" I'm just staying on topic. I'm sorry that you can't see that.

And yes, TT has missed on draft picks. He's had some very bad drafts. He's had some excellent drafts. The draft is a crapshoot that almost nobody is consistently good at. If you expect TT to nail the majority of his picks in the draft, then your expectations are out of whack.

My expectations are to go "all in" like they say and utilize every avenue to acquire talent and not just the draft and a few bottom feeder FA's.

See Belichick and the Pats. Sorry to interrupt your Pac 12 film study.

 

[McKnowledge]

I wouldn't mind going that route. I like Courtland Sutton, SMU better. He did more with less help. Sutton is an athletic freak with some scouts comparing him to Julio Jones coming out of college.

I want a WR that can win 50/50 balls and run crisp smooth routes. St. Brown can do that. Plus, playing outside @ Notre Dame has allowed St. Brown to adjust to the inclement weather of the Midwest. Performing outside in bad weather (Antonio Brown) is more impressive than playing in a dome at all times (Julio Jones). St. Brown has a Julio Jones frame with Antonio Brown talent.

 

[brandon2348]

I want a WR that can win 50/50 balls and run crisp smooth routes. St. Brown can do that. Plus, playing outside @ Notre Dame has allowed St. Brown to adjust to the inclement weather of the Midwest. Performing outside in bad weather (Antonio Brown) is more impressive than playing in a dome at all times (Julio Jones). St. Brown has a Julio Jones frame with Antonio Brown talent.

I'd be fine with St. Brown. My perfect scenario as of now though is R. Smith in 1st and Paris Campbell in 2nd. Campbell also a Midwest guy and I expect him to possibly run 4.2-4.3 at combine. He is also 6'1 205lbs. He could develop into a Cobb replacement and give us more speed and explosion to stretch the middle of the field. I don't think OSU got full potential out of him due to there offense. I see a Percy Harvin type talent with Campbell.

 

[HardRightEdge]

How did you know?

I have complete confidence you will draft “the best player available”...after trading down.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Seriously, unless Nelson was playing through some undisclosed injury not involving the ACL knee, we must conclude he’s in decline in which case a WR should be at the top of the needs list along with OLB with Matthews in decline.

 

[brandon2348]

Seriously, unless Nelson was playing through some undisclosed injury not involving the ACL knee, we must conclude he’s in decline in which case a WR should be at the top of the needs list along with OLB with Matthews in decline.

Also, Don't forget to add the future of Bulaga is in question and Jahri Evans will most likely retire. Gotta keep Rodgers upright. Yes, they need another weapon on offense. If Adams were to get hurt the offense might stall. Were thin at TE again all of the sudden. Throw in the problems on defense and there is a lot of work to be done. Not sure Thompson is capable of filling all these holes and using the necessary methods to get it done.

 

[G0P4ckG0]

I'm hoping either Connor Williams (T) falls to us or we trade down to get Denzel Ward (CB) and a 5th round pick.

My first 3 picks (no particular order) would be T, CB, WR. After that (in order), focus on LB, TE and DL. Pick up a QB in a "steal" situation but that seems very unlikely this year with so many teams needing QBs.

 

[7thFloorRA]

Imagine of somehow Rosen or Darnold were still there. It would be really hard to not pull the trigger.

 

[G0P4ckG0]

Imagine of somehow Rosen or Darnold were still there. It would be really hard to not pull the trigger.

It's a trigger I would pull without hesitation. Rodgers is likely facing retirement within 5 years and with his recent collarbone injury, odds are he will never be the same. Not to mention he will become a salary cap liability with his next extension. This might be Favre 2.0 minus the retirement flip-flopping (all assuming a stud QB falls to us). From here on out, a good available QB cannot be passed on in the draft.

 

[brandon2348]

Darnold or Rosen aren't dropping to us. Either is saquon barkley which I saw posted a few days ago. This whole operation is in quick sand and were relying on Thompson to get us out of it. We are so close to "panic mode" that I don't think most fans understand.