Where do you think we'll finish next season? (Post-Draft edits...)

[rmontro]

Taking your team to two consecutive NFCCGs is far from not getting it done when it matters.

If it doesn't matter when you're in a NFCCG, or having home field advantage throughout the playoffs, when does it matter?

 

[Sunshinepacker]

If it doesn't matter when you're in a NFCCG, or having home field advantage throughout the playoffs, when does it matter?

When you don't make the playoffs for multiple seasons in a row? Being one of the four best teams in the league does matter and it certainly isn't some kind of flaw on the coach's resume.

 

[rmontro]

When you don't make the playoffs for multiple seasons in a row? Being one of the four best teams in the league does matter and it certainly isn't some kind of flaw on the coach's resume.

I'm just thinking there's usually a window of opportunity for these kind of things, and if you don't take advantage of it during that time, people can stop believing.

 

[OldSchool101]

I think it’s quite possible we see additional personnel changes and resources thrown at ST. Possibly a smaller FA signing plus 1-2 later draft picks who were ST stalwarts in College.
I think we’ve all forgotten how vital a good ST unit is because we haven’t had one for so long. With a Rodgers led team and final cap push (retaining the bulk of our 2021 team)..
I think we have a legit shot at 13 Wins again. MLF has proven to me that with even a decimated OL he made the top 10 Offense. What could he do with 3-4 OL presumed starters playing regularly?
Then add a dynamic ST unit?

 

[Forget Favre]

With Rodgers: Get to the playoffs only to lose it yet again.

Without Rodgers: Super Bowl winners.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

1 player worth keeping out of 11 picks. Of those 11 picks 8 of them didn’t make it through their rookie deals.

Yes, the 2018 class is atrocious.

You need to consider that MVS is ranked sixth in receiving yards and touchdowns among all receivers drafted in 2018 as well as that Gutekunst acquired another first rounder in '19 during that draft as well.

 

[lambeaulambo]

Rodgers clearly stated he doesnt want to be part of a rebuild, so:

Disgruntled 12 and rebuild in play - 11-6 - lose first playoff game due to lack of offense. Special teams improves

Love and rebuild in play - 6-11 - deer in headlights all season due to opposition sending the house on every passing play. Special teams improves.

12 and putting off the inevitable cap bubble - 12-5 - lose div round repeat, special teams improves.

The only thing that would change any of these is if the NFL ups the salary cap.

 

[Raleigh NC Packers Fan]

Rodgers clearly stated he doesnt want to be part of a rebuild, so:

Disgruntled 12 and rebuild in play - 11-6 - lose first playoff game due to lack of offense. Special teams improves

Love and rebuild in play - 6-11 - deer in headlights all season due to opposition sending the house on every passing play. Special teams improves.

12 and putting off the inevitable cap bubble - 12-5 - lose div round repeat, special teams improves.

The only thing that would change any of these is if the NFL ups the salary cap.

I have heard that the salary cap is going up in the future. How much is it projected to go up? Maybe we won't have to worry about it in the future when it goes up?

 

[lambeaulambo]

I have heard that the salary cap is going up in the future. How much is it projected to go up? Maybe we won't have to worry about it in the future when it goes up?

Ive been wondering exactly the same thing.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

You need to consider that MVS is ranked sixth in receiving yards and touchdowns among all receivers drafted in 2018 as well as that Gutekunst acquired another first rounder in '19 during that draft as well.

Jaire is great, the rest of the draft class was pretty much awful. If your defense of that draft (aside from the obvious All-Pro in Jaire) is that the Packers drafted a deep threat with reliability issues, it kind of tells you all you need to know about that draft. Getting the 2019 pick that turned into Darnell Savage makes the 2019 draft terrific but the players selected in 2018 were pretty much not great.

 

[Raleigh NC Packers Fan]

With Rodgers: 12-14 wins, I will go with 13-4, top 2 in the NFC, and being a Super Bowl contender.

With a developed/NFL ready Love or we acquire a quality starting QB in the Rodgers trade: (assuming we keep the team together) 10-12 wins, I will go with 11-6. Win the division? (Not sure how good the other NFC North teams will be, if they are as bad as the last few seasons, that should be enough to win the division. Even 9-10 wins might be enough). Regardless, that should be good enough for the playoffs.

If Love isn't ready and needs further development, and/or the team is rebuilding: 6-9 wins (probably closer to 6 wins if the team is rebuilding)

 

[PackerDNA]

Well, with or without Rodgers, we won't be going to the Super Bowl.

 

[rmontro]

Well, with or without Rodgers, we won't be going to the Super Bowl.

That seems logical. But come the start of football season, and get a few wins under our belt, and I'll probably get sucked in again.

 

[KiDcUdI]

Jaire is great, the rest of the draft class was pretty much awful. If your defense of that draft (aside from the obvious All-Pro in Jaire) is that the Packers drafted a deep threat with reliability issues, it kind of tells you all you need to know about that draft. Getting the 2019 pick that turned into Darnell Savage makes the 2019 draft terrific but the players selected in 2018 were pretty much not great.

Ding ding ****ing ding.

Although I will disagree on the Savage pick. I think Savage is just a below average player. Great athletic ability but little skill and barely any heart. He has no interest in tackling and does this weird thing where he can be the first player to the ball or at the very least the help to get a carrier down but he slows up to avoid contact. On top of that he’s inconsistent in coverage for all the speed. He should be a guantenteed play maker. Instead he struggles in all aspects of the game.

Maybe a bit harsh but I didn’t think he was a first round talent when we took and I certainly don’t see him as that now.

 

[Poppa San]

Can't tell if that is tongue in cheek or you really think the Packers will make it to the Super Bowl without Rodgers.

At this point in the off-season, we always are winning the SB next season.

 

[OldSchool101]

I really think people would be surprised how quickly the Pack could field a competitive team of choosing to rebuild and having 4-6 extra early draft selection. In a total rebuild I’m confident we could be playoff bound by 2024.
One way or another that’s going to be a consideration in the next few years.

 

[rmontro]

I really think people would be surprised how quickly the Pack could field a competitive team of choosing to rebuild and having 4-6 extra early draft selection.

Being competitive, sure. Making the playoffs almost every year like we are now is another thing altogether, unless we find the hypothetical heir apparent to Favre/Rodgers. Or if the rest of the division just really stinks.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

The only thing that would change any of these is if the NFL ups the salary cap.

I highly doubt the cap will be significantly higher than the reported $208.2 million for next season.

I have heard that the salary cap is going up in the future. How much is it projected to go up? Maybe we won't have to worry about it in the future when it goes up?

The cap will significantly increase once the new TV deal kicks in in 2023. That doesn't change the fact that a lot of teams will find themselves in a better situation than the Packers who have already pushed a significant amount of money into future years though.

Jaire is great, the rest of the draft class was pretty much awful. If your defense of that draft (aside from the obvious All-Pro in Jaire) is that the Packers drafted a deep threat with reliability issues, it kind of tells you all you need to know about that draft.

It shouldn't be ignored that Gutekunst found one of the best receivers in the draft in the fifth round.

 

[Pugger]

13-4, win the Division and go to the SB.

With Love under center?

 

[Pugger]

Rodgers clearly stated he doesnt want to be part of a rebuild, so:

Disgruntled 12 and rebuild in play - 11-6 - lose first playoff game due to lack of offense. Special teams improves

Love and rebuild in play - 6-11 - deer in headlights all season due to opposition sending the house on every passing play. Special teams improves.

12 and putting off the inevitable cap bubble - 12-5 - lose div round repeat, special teams improves.

The only thing that would change any of these is if the NFL ups the salary cap.

With all of the restructuring these past several weeks that doesn't appear to me the Packers are rebuilding. They'll only go to rebuild if Rodgers decides he would like to play elsewhere.

 

[Pugger]

Well, with or without Rodgers, we won't be going to the Super Bowl.

Past performance is not indicative of future results.

A lot of us are just assuming he'll choke again. If he is such a terrible postseason QB why is Gute getting all these suitors?

 

[El Guapo]

What suitors? Gute has twice said that he has not gotten any calls or inquiries about trading for Rodgers. There is media speculation but....

 

[Half Empty]

Past performance is not indicative of future results.

A lot of us are just assuming he'll choke again. If he is such a terrible postseason QB why is Gute getting all these suitors?

If there are suitors, I'd figure it's some combination of wishful thinking, OUR team has what he's been missing, and we can fix him.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

It shouldn't be ignored that Gutekunst found one of the best receivers in the draft in the fifth round.

Finding a mediocre player in a middle round isn't something to be celebrated. I don't grade relative to others because I don't care that the Packers drafted better than some collection of awful teams. I care that the Packers find good players.

 

[OldSchool101]

Being competitive, sure. Making the playoffs almost every year like we are now is another thing altogether, unless we find the hypothetical heir apparent to Favre/Rodgers. Or if the rest of the division just really stinks.

What are you guys going to do when Rodgers sprouts some Gray hairs and adopts a limp? Go hide in the bathroom ?
Quit being a scaredy cat