Ty Mont's Future in Green Bay

[Sunshinepacker]

Monty is a match-up nightmare which is exactly what MM wants in this offense. If they call him a RB then when he's in the D more than likely has a LB covering him and MM has the option of motioning or splitting Monty out into a pattern. If the D chooses to put a Safety on him then MM can run him inside where Monty has (hopefully) a hole and some steam prior to getting to the Safety and a gain of 5-10 yards. I think MM likes "playing around" with the options and trying to out-think a D coordinator.

Whether he wears #88 again or is given a RB number (#38?) he'll have the same role. Love to see a couple of backs drafted/UDFA in the offseason, a bruising 230+lb'er and a smaller fast/quick guy and see how they fare in TC alongside C. Michael and Monty.

For being something that MM wants in this offense, it sure took a while for MM to accept that Ty was the team's best running back.

I'm still not sure why some think Ty can't be the number one running back in a committee next year. There's absolutely no reason he couldn't handle 12-17 carries a game.

 

[El Guapo]

I'm not sure that many (or any) people think he can't or more specifically won't be the running back in a committee for Green Bay next season. Most don't think that he should be the Priest Holmes of our running attack, but likely will be part of a committee until a true #1 RB is acquired.

 

[Robert Mason]

For being something that MM wants in this offense, it sure took a while for MM to accept that Ty was the team's best running back.

I guess it came due to necessity

 

[Sunshinepacker]

I guess it came due to necessity

I would hope an offensive coach would be able to figure out on his own that a player is good for the offense, not have to be forced into it.

 

[Robert Mason]

I would hope an offensive coach would be able to figure out on his own that a player is good for the offense, not have to be forced into it.

Yes.....One that can think outside the box....Now start thinking of ways to use Janis's speed. Two TD's already.

 

[Curly Calhoun]

I think they can't change numbers in the middle of a season

No, they can't, and I'm not suggesting otherwise. If Montgomery does change his number, it would be in the off-season.

Per jsonline:

GREEN BAY – If he could, Ty Montgomery would change his uniform number.

But NFL rules state that you can’t change numbers in the middle of the season and so Montgomery will continue to wear No. 88 for the Green Bay Packers.

Just in case you’re not aware, it's unusual because, according to coach Mike McCarthy, the second-year pro officially is no longer a receiver.

“Ty Montgomery is a running back,” McCarthy said at his Monday news conference. “So I don’t know where that gets lost. ... But, Ty, he’s a running back. I apologize for not making an announcement. He hasn’t gone to a receiver meeting in months.”


http://www.jsonline.com/story/sport...mbers-favor-montgomery-running-back/95357290/

 

[Scotland Yard]

Ty is the 3rd down, pass catching RB the Packers have needed since the end of the A. Green era. We've needed this for a long time. (I recall prior to Green, Edgar Bennett was also a highly successful pass catching RB in the Packers' system). As Pkrjones pointed out above, this is going to be great for MM's play calling.

I just don't understand all the naysayers. Ty is more of a RB than Starks in body type. Starks is 6'2" and runs upright with arms and legs flying all over the place, he doesn't look like an NFL RB at all.

Ty is 6' even and 216lbs. and he got low on his TD run vs. SEA this week. He read the blocking, made a nice adjustment when the hole closed and got it in. What more do you people want?!

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Ty is the 3rd down, pass catching RB the Packers have needed since the end of the A. Green era. We've needed this for a long time. (I recall prior to Green, Edgar Bennett was also a highly successful pass catching RB in the Packers' system). As Pkrjones pointed out above, this is going to be great for MM's play calling.

I just don't understand all the naysayers. Ty is more of a RB than Starks in body type. Starks is 6'2" and runs upright with arms and legs flying all over the place, he doesn't look like an NFL RB at all.

Ty is 6' even and 216lbs. and he got low on his TD run vs. SEA this week. He read the blocking, made a nice adjustment when the hole closed and got it in. What more do you people want?!

He wasn't listed as a RB coming out of college and therefore he cannot now be a full-time RB in the NFL; that's the only thing I can figure out anyway.

 

[XPack]

Can he play TE? He has the build to block and ability to catch, maybe alternative to Cook and Richard next season?

 

[Half Empty]

He wasn't listed as a RB coming out of college and therefore he cannot now be a full-time RB in the NFL; that's the only thing I can figure out anyway.

I always thought there was more talk about him possibly being a RB since his WR abilities were in question. I don't immediately recall others, but here are a couple of draft summaries that certainly bolster that. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/cfb/130953/ty-montgomery

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/ty-montgomery?id=2552429

 

[Pkrjones]

Can he play TE? He has the build to block and ability to catch, maybe alternative to Cook and Richard next season?

Don't think there are ANY 6'-0" TE's in the NFL. Think TT's "perfect TE" is 6'-5", 250 or 255lbs. but he keeps "settling" for guys who are 6'-3" or 6'-4". Can't seem to find that right combination of size, speed and blocking capability... but hope he keeps trying in April '17.

 

[OldSchool101]

Taking a look at Montgomery´s receiving stats you have to realize that he has caught a lot of short passes with some of them even behind the LOS. Therefore his average yards per reception should be compared to other running backs.

That's a valid point and it certainly arguable that it affects his YPC. Because of his dual purpose you almost need to take it a step farther and compare him to similar "like" hybrid players. I also think similar to one of your other posts that he should be used wherever he shows success and not confined. Although until we have a solid Feature RB we can't afford to have the blown plays we had Sunday out of the backfield with Christine which is understood, of course, under his circumstances with being new in this system.
MM has eluded to his continued resistance to role confining with Monty so whatever positional delegation we wanna name him it's just semantics

 

[OldSchool101]

Ty is the 3rd down, pass catching RB the Packers have needed since the end of the A. Green era. We've needed this for a long time. (I recall prior to Green, Edgar Bennett was also a highly successful pass catching RB in the Packers' system). As Pkrjones pointed out above, this is going to be great for MM's play calling.

I just don't understand all the naysayers. Ty is more of a RB than Starks in body type. Starks is 6'2" and runs upright with arms and legs flying all over the place, he doesn't look like an NFL RB at all.

Ty is 6' even and 216lbs. and he got low on his TD run vs. SEA this week. He read the blocking, made a nice adjustment when the hole closed and got it in. What more do you people want?!

Two of him

 

[Arthur Squires]

Possibilities are endless with this WR/RB/KR. The man just needs to stay healthy! Wasn't happy with the 3rd round pick at first. But it's looking like the guy was a good find.

 

[PeteButter]

I would like to see Ty Mont get 20+ carries this week and a true feature role. He's the best at everything amongst the Packers runningbacks so why split his carries. Ty in my opinion is a top 5 runningback in the NFL.

 

[Pkrjones]

Ty in my opinion is a top 5 runningback in the NFL.

I really like Monty, but if given a choice I'd much rather have in GB's backfield: LeVeon Bell, Ezekiel Elliott, Todd Gurley, David Johnson, Lamar Miller, Lesean McCoy, Thomas Rawls, and probably Melvin Gordon. Wouldn't mind AP, Jamaal Charles or Spencer Ware, or Devonta Freeman either. Who'd I miss?

 

[Packer Fan in SD]

I really like Monty, but if given a choice I'd much rather have in GB's backfield: LeVeon Bell, Ezekiel Elliott, Todd Gurley, David Johnson, Lamar Miller, Lesean McCoy, Thomas Rawls, and probably Melvin Gordon. Wouldn't mind AP, Jamaal Charles or Spencer Ware, or Devonta Freeman either. Who'd I miss?

Carlos Hyde. Nice list.

 

[Poppa San]

I really like Monty, but if given a choice I'd much rather have in GB's backfield: LeVeon Bell, Ezekiel Elliott, Todd Gurley, David Johnson, Lamar Miller, Lesean McCoy, Thomas Rawls, and probably Melvin Gordon. Wouldn't mind AP, Jamaal Charles or Spencer Ware, or Devonta Freeman either. Who'd I miss?

Carlos Hyde. Nice list.

Healthy rookie version of Eddie Lacey, Matt Forte.

 

[HardRightEdge]

I'm still not sure why some think Ty can't be the number one running back in a committee next year. There's absolutely no reason he couldn't handle 12-17 carries a game.

McCarthy probably wants to have him around for awhile. NFL running backs have a short shelf life if you're going to pound them between the tackles.

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

Montgomery is too small to be a feature RB...... So is Barry Sanders...

 

[PeteButter]

I really like Monty, but if given a choice I'd much rather have in GB's backfield: LeVeon Bell, Ezekiel Elliott, Todd Gurley, David Johnson, Lamar Miller, Lesean McCoy, Thomas Rawls, and probably Melvin Gordon. Wouldn't mind AP, Jamaal Charles or Spencer Ware, or Devonta Freeman either. Who'd I miss?

Ty Montgomery is more efficient and a better pass blocker than all of those players with minimal practice. He's arguably the best pass catcher of those players as well. You are really sleeping on Ty's greatness.

 

[Poppa San]

Montgomery is too small to be a feature RB...... So is Barry Sanders...

Just how small is he compared to several others listed ?

 

[Deleted member 6794]

McCarthy probably wants to have him around for awhile. NFL running backs have a short shelf life if you're going to pound them between the tackles.

I'm not convinced that's the reasoning behind limiting Montgomery's carries as he's build like a running back and compared to other players at the position in the NFL has a lot less mileage on him.

Ty Montgomery is more efficient and a better pass blocker than all of those players with minimal practice. He's arguably the best pass catcher of those players as well. You are really sleeping on Ty's greatness.

There's no doubt Montgomery currently offers the best option to run the ball and presents a matchup nightmare for opposing defenses. The Packers better enter next season with at least another player capable of rushing the ball effectively for 10+ attempts a game though whether that might be Lacy, Michael or someone else.

 

[Mondio]

we do need another RB on the team heading into next year, but i'm not convinced Ty can't be our main guy either. He doesn't need to be Eddie Lacy. He does seem to run better everytime he's out there and I'd say he looks pretty good doing it right now, and think he the ceiling to improve in that area too.

He could be quite the threat in the running and passing game, as the feature guy. He's not the guy you pound out 1st down after 1st down with, but Eddie wasn't either. Because you could never count on him for more than 3-4 plays in a row. But there are so many ways to get the ball in his hands, and right now we have a the QB to do it with. So many run, pass options from so many areas on the field. Line him up in the backfield, motion him to anywhere. Line him up anywhere and motion back to the backfield. Just line it up and go. I'm excited to see how much they can do with him back there.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

McCarthy probably wants to have him around for awhile. NFL running backs have a short shelf life if you're going to pound them between the tackles.

MM, like every other NFL coach, wants to win this year because there are zero guarantees next year. Shelf life for players is not very important unless it's the QB. I seriously doubt MM is willing to sacrifice wins this year on the off chance that Ty can retire in 2021 instead of 2019.