Transfer portal and NIL Money, how they have changed college sports".

[Voyageur]

Are you confusing "Letters of Intent", with a students intent to attend a certain University and compete in a sport(s) there? An NIL deal is completely separate from those.

From what I understand about an NIL "Deal", is it is a written contract. However, one rule the NCAA does enforce is "no pay for play contracts." The NIL deal is supposed to be just what the name implies "Name, Image and Likeness". So the athlete is signing that deal with someone that will profit from using any or all of those 3 things. Just like any written contract, as long as it is "legal contract", once both parties sign to it, it is enforceable.

As far as "services" to be performed by the athlete, guessing that would be stipulated in the contract, ie "promo's, tours, photo shoots, etc.", as would the amount of pay be stipulated. However, I don't think it can have anything to do with their actions in their particular sport. Meaning it can't say "You get paid for playing at this level or that level."

Somehow the deals are tied to the athlete playing for a specific team during the contract. Otherwise, they would be useless to one party, as to what they were intended to do.

The article below is a year old, so who knows if things have changed since it was written.

Know the Law: Understanding a NIL Contract - McLane Middleton

Q: I am a student-athlete and I just received a NIL contract from a business. What should I be aware of before I sign the contract? A: As the two

www.mclane.com

Middleton's understanding of it, at that time, was pretty much straight forward. It indicated the separation between the schools and the NIL money. So, what's changed? Essentially schools are now actually giving money directly to student athletes and being reimbursed by the outside collectives. The amount is insignificant what it means is that schools can give a player NIL money directly and essentially accepting it makes the agreement a binding contract. That's what Wisconsin is essentially doing from all outside appearances.

If Wisconsin and Lucas signed an agreement where he would get so much money over a period of time, and advanced him any portion of it, this would mean he's already collecting on what can be considered a contract. If you look at the situation that happened with A.J. Storr, you get a little better picture of what's happening.

AJ Storr has a partnership with Mass St. Collective, an NIL collective that supports University of Kansas student-athletes.

Explanation

• Storr is a basketball player who transferred to Kansas from Wisconsin in 2024.
  
• Storr was a top scorer for Wisconsin, averaging 16.8 points per game.
  
• Storr was looking for a seven-figure NIL deal with Kansas, but the Jayhawks offered $750,000. Storr turned down the offer.
  
• Storr also considered NIL deals with other schools, including Illinois and Kentucky.
  
• Storr's NIL partnership with Mass St. Collective involves promoting products on social media and participating in events.

After reading that bit of information, you need to read about how Mass St. Collective is already ceasing operations, because schools are able to pay students directly. That means that the situation with Miami actually came about after the change in how the program works meaning that Miami itself was more than likely actively recruiting Lucas. Since the new NIL has schools paying directly, signing an agreement with them on NIL is now a contractual agreement with the school itself.

KU Sports

With a new era of compensation for college athletes on the horizon, the Mass St. Collective has ceased operations, Executive Director Keon Stowers told the Journal-World on Thursday. The collective has long facilitated payments to University of Kansas athletes for name, image and likeness...

www2.kusports.com

You'll also notice in the statement relating to Storr, the school itself set the limit at $750k while Storr wanted $1 million. The difference between Storr and Lucas is that Storr left Wisconsin and put feelers out for the 2nd year in a row to get the best deal he could, and it ended up Kansas.

The way NIL is structured now, I'd venture a guess that the newest NIL agreements tendered by the schools is going to be considered a contractual agreement, and the length will be determined at the time of signing.

It takes a lawyer or someone who is talking to insiders to fully understand where this is going. Like I said, I trust my sources.

 

[Voyageur]

Thanks V. Yeah anytime $$$ are involved, all kinds of creative solutions are found.

As far as contracts, I thought players signed letters of intent, but not binding contracts. A legal contract requires both sides to put up "consideration" - in a services deal, that would require someone to perform an agreed upon service for a fee. Both are bound.

That doesn't seen to be happening here. If there isn't consideration from both parties, the contract can't be enforced.

But even if a sponsorship is offered, with a commitment to attend the school and play football, that should be binding. Been a long time since I studied business law and I'm no lawyer though.....

Regardless, it's a hot mess as you describe.

Read my response to Poker. It will explain most of what's happening on the NIL front. In all honesty, the question that will exist is whether Miami will have enough schools willing to go along with them and how many will oppose them by siding with Wisconsin, feeling they have a right to protect the integrity of agreements between the schools and the athletes.

After that, the courts get involved. It may well reach that point yet.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

The AJ Storr situation is sort of "comical". He's playing horrible at Kansas and the fans are noticing it. Have to wonder how he would be playing at Wisconsin right now, might have been a good thing he left. He's a million dollars richer, but he sure isn't helping his future value.

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[Voyageur]

The AJ Storr situation is sort of "comical". He's playing horrible at Kansas and the fans are noticing it. Have to wonder how he would be playing at Wisconsin right now, might have been a good thing he left. He's a million dollars richer, but he sure isn't helping his future value.

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I don't miss Storr or Hepburn to be honest. I like the Badgers players deciding they'd take turns being top dog in games, depending on what defenses failed to do against them. It's exciting watching them play and it's Brad Penny who brought Euro-ball to the team that's made the difference.

Now that Gard has decided that their new offense can include Crowl and Winter, they're an 80+ per game team that can beat anyone if they're on. I think this team is getting better every day, and when they hit the tourney, they could be tough for anyone to take out.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I never was a Chuckie fan. Seemed like he was like Khris Middleton for me. Whenever I decided to actually watched a game, he sucked.