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Now all of this is obviously just speculation. They could be re-checking a medical and decide everything is fine and draft that guy or they could be checking up on character reports and feel comfortable with them and draft that guy or someone I see as a UDFA type might actually be a late round draft pick. But if I had to say which guys are actually most likely to be picked out of their visits, I would say..
Amazing work, as usual, but leaves me with a question.... how does pre-draft UDFA recruitment work? Are they bringing these guys in to make a good impression on them, sell them on the team and the facilities, and actively try to persuade them to sign after the draft? Are conditional agreements actually reached, as in "we think it's unlikely you'll be drafted, and if you're not, we definitely want to sign you and bring you in to mini-camp"?

Or is that even legal? Is it more like, "we have a strong interest in you, and if you're not drafted, make sure you're near your phone"?
 
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Packers had a Virtual Visit with BYU OL Caleb Etienne. 6'6.5" 329lbs. Considered a developmental prospect, who could possibly be drafted late Day 3 or will be an UDFA. 9.23 RAS

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I'm going to attempt to narrow down the visits to those players most likely to be drafted.


Taylor Elgersma, QB, Wilfrid Laurier: UDFA recruiting

Tetairoa McMillan, WR, Arizona: Gone by #23
Matthew Golden, WR, Texas: Below normal size thresholds and generally don't draft WR rd 1
Emeka Egbuka, WR, Ohio State: Generally don't draft WR rd 1
Isaiah Bond, WR, Texas: Character scouting
Tory Horton, WR, Colorado State
Tai Felton, WR, Maryland

Josh Simmons, OT, Ohio State: Medical re-check
Anthony Belton, OL, North Carolina State
John Williams, OL, Cincinnati: UDFA recruiting
Jacob Bayer, OL, Arkansas State: UDFA recruiting
Dalton Cooper, OL, Oklahoma State: UDFA recruiting
Esa Pole, OL, Washington State: UDFA recruiting

Walter Nolen, DT, Mississippi: Character scouting
Tyleik Williams, DT, Ohio State
T.J. Sanders, DT, South Carolina

Mykel Williams, DE, Georgia: Gone by #23
Shemar Stewart, DE, Texas AM: Gone by #23
James Pearce, DE, Tennessee: Character scouting
Jordan Burch, DE, Oregon
Elijah Roberts, DE, Southern Methodist

Shavon Revel, CB, ECU: Medical re-check
Trey Amos, CB, MISS
Jason Marshall, CB, FLA
Micah Robinson, CB, TUL: UDFA recruiting

Now all of this is obviously just speculation. They could be re-checking a medical and decide everything is fine and draft that guy or they could be checking up on character reports and feel comfortable with them and draft that guy or someone I see as a UDFA type might actually be a late round draft pick. But if I had to say which guys are actually most likely to be picked out of their visits, I would say...

Tory Horton, WR, CSU
Tai Felton, WR, MAR

Anthony Belton, OL, NCSU

Tyleik Williams, DT, OSU
T.J. Sanders, DT, SC

Jordan Burch, DE, OR
Elijah Roberts, DE, SMU

Trey Amos, CB, MISS
Jason Marshall, CB, FLA
Just because they are medical checks, doesn't mean we won't take them. They may have passed!

Here is my dilemma. I think that if Josh Simmons doesn't get injured last season, he is the first OT taken. So if he passes the physical 100%, he goes before #23. So I have to hope he is only at 80% or something (but has a 99%chance of healing to 100%) so he makes it to 23. The Packers have the luxury of waiting a year with him before he needs to play.

I'm thinking DE is a smokescreen, but I could see them taking Stewart. They drafted Gary when they just spent on 2 FAs starters afterall.
 
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Just because they are medical checks, doesn't mean we won't take them. They may have passed!

Here is my dilemma. I think that if Josh Simmons doesn't get injured last season, he is the first OT taken. So if he passes the physical 100%, he goes before #23. So I have to hope he is only at 80% or something (but has a 99%chance of healing to 100%) so he makes it to 23. The Packers have the luxury of waiting a year with him before he needs to play.

I'm thinking DE is a smokescreen, but I could see them taking Stewart. They drafted Gary when they just spent on 2 FAs starters afterall.

Totally. I wouldn’t rule out and of the medical re-checks. My point is that if they have a guy in who has been healthy and doesn’t have off field stuff, the odds of genuine interest seem higher to me.

I can totally see the plan in drafting Simmons and stashing him. It’s nerve-racking though, because a patellar tendon is the kind of thing where a guy could get back to being healthy but never move quite the same way again.
 

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Totally. I wouldn’t rule out and of the medical re-checks. My point is that if they have a guy in who has been healthy and doesn’t have off field stuff, the odds of genuine interest seem higher to me.

I can totally see the plan in drafting Simmons and stashing him. It’s nerve-racking though, because a patellar tendon is the kind of thing where a guy could get back to being healthy but never move quite the same way again.
Yeah, it's a tough call when you don't have the doctors opinion. There are 7 or 8 bluechip players in this draft, like most drafts. This is a shot at one who belongs in that category, if healthy. I agree with many of your points in this thread, and appreciate you laying all this out there. But bringing them in for a medical, IMHO, is genuine interest. If Simmons is their true objective at 23, they would want to look at that knee one last time. As well as, their actual target may be someone they have show little interest in publicly. I have a feeling we are going to have some low scores in the draft contest this year.
 
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If Simmons passed the medicals, and he is there at 23, you almost have to take him. On the flip side, do you take a player that probably won't start, in the 1st Rd?? This is a yr that you could get away with that, as I feel there are only 2 positions where there is a realistic opportunity for a rookie winning a starting spot, game 1 of the season. ( DT, TJ Slaton's replacement, & WR, Christian Watson's injury) Those two positions could definitely be filled with a day 1 starter, in Rds 2 & 3. Then in 2026, if you let Walker go in FA, maybe sign Rhyan to backup at G/C, or let him test FA too, the OL could look like:

LT Simmons
LG Banks
C Jenkins
RG Morgan
RT Tom
 

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If Simmons passed the medicals, and he is there at 23, you almost have to take him. On the flip side, do you take a player that probably won't start, in the 1st Rd?? This is a yr that you could get away with that, as I feel there are only 2 positions where there is a realistic opportunity for a rookie winning a starting spot, game 1 of the season. ( DT, TJ Slaton's replacement, & WR, Christian Watson's injury) Those two positions could definitely be filled with a day 1 starter, in Rds 2 & 3. Then in 2026, if you let Walker go in FA, maybe sign Rhyan to backup at G/C, or let him test FA too, the OL could look like:

LT Simmons
LG Banks
C Jenkins
RG Morgan
RT Tom
Selecting OL in the first round isn't sexy, nor is it popular with a lot of fans. However, looking at the Packers potential OL Free Agents in 2026, selecting a player like Simmons would make sense.
 

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If everyone gets a zero does last years champ retain the title?
Yes! From the rule book:

36.2 Ties
36.2.3 should all players score a zero, the previous years champion will remain champion, providing:
36.2.3.a Last years champion is playing the current year
36.2.3.b Last years champion has a valid entry as defined by section 17
36.2.3.c Last years champion has never complained about the spelling of their name.
 

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Yes! From the rule book:

36.2 Ties
36.2.3 should all players score a zero, the previous years champion will remain champion, providing:
36.2.3.a Last years champion is playing the current year
36.2.3.b Last years champion has a valid entry as defined by section 17
36.2.3.c Last years champion has never complained about the spelling of their name.
You forgot to include Rule 36.2.3.q:

"Unpaid entry fees accrue an 18% finance fee and if left unpaid to host, said player will be erased from all past, present and future contests."
 

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It’s pretty well know that the Packers draft a lot of their top 30 visits, that they like Senior Bowlers, and that they prefer 8.0+ RAS.

If you cross reference all those factors, you get two names:

-Tai Felton, WR, Maryland

-Anthony Belton, OL, NCSU

Added intrigue with Belton: our Pass Game Coordinator, Jason Vrable, was his OC at the Sr Bowl.

Belton is bigger than their norm, but his agilities hit their normal thresholds.
 

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Yes! From the rule book:

36.2 Ties
36.2.3 should all players score a zero, the previous years champion will remain champion, providing:
36.2.3.a Last years champion is playing the current year
36.2.3.b Last years champion has a valid entry as defined by section 17
36.2.3.c Last years champion has never complained about the spelling of their name.
Lucky for me correcting is not complaining.
 
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Up to 24 visits now, with many being potential 1st Rd guys. Here is the list of players who will be in Green Bay attending the Draft.

*Quarterbacks: Cam Ward (Miami), Jalen Milroe (Alabama), Jaxson Dart (Ole Miss)

*Receivers: Matthew Golden (Texas), Tetairoa McMillan (Arizona), Travis Hunter (Colorado)

*Running Backs: Ashton Jeanty (Boise State)

*Offensive Linemen: Tyler Booker (Alabama), Will Campbell (LSU), Josh Simmons (Ohio State)

*Defensive Linemen: Mason Graham (Michigan), Abdul Carter (Penn State), Shemar Stewart (Texas A&M), Mykel Williams (Georgia)

*Linebackers: Jihaad Campbell (Alabama)

*Defensive Backs: Will Johnson (Michigan), Malaki Starks (Georgia)
Ohio St OT Josh Simmons is no longer attending the NFL Draft... wondering if his medical re-checks during Top 30 visits weren't going well. Something obviously hasn't gone his way, that he backed out this late.
 

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Ohio St OT Josh Simmons is no longer attending the NFL Draft... wondering if his medical re-checks during Top 30 visits weren't going well. Something obviously hasn't gone his way, that he backed out this late.
Could also be unlike some they'd rather not risk going Day2 instead of Day1 and be sitting there. He for sure has that chance.
 
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Could also be unlike some they'd rather not risk going Day2 instead of Day1 and be sitting there. He for sure has that chance.
Yeah, with the injury he had, he could potentially end up in the 2nd. Some guys just don't want to take that chance, while others would take it as motivation.
 
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Could also be unlike some they'd rather not risk going Day2 instead of Day1 and be sitting there. He for sure has that chance.
Exactly. From what I’ve read in just limited looks at his $, because I don’t want to make it ALL about the $$ because there are other factors.

Let’s say he makes a $1mil today (600K NIL + endorsements). Nobody knows exactly ive hunted around but it’s estimated he’s drawing over $1m in college. Peanuts compared to Manning or Sanders but still significant.
Then let’s say he regains health and goes #7or #12 or #16 overall etc. That’s a massive swing up into that $15-25mil contract alone. Verses maybe slipping into a $1.5-$2.5mil yearly etc. which is higher than his $1m current, but not enough to get excited. A year goes by so fast and if he’s smart with his body he can pick up $10-20mil for being patient.
 
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Exactly. From what I’ve read in just limited looks at his $, because I don’t want to make it ALL about the $$ because there are other factors.

Let’s say he makes a $1mil today (600K NIL + endorsements). Nobody knows exactly ive hunted around but it’s estimated he’s drawing over $1m in college. Peanuts compared to Manning or Sanders but still significant.
Then let’s say he regains health and goes #7or #12 or #16 overall etc. That’s a massive swing up into that $15-25mil contract alone. Verses maybe slipping into a $1.5-$2.5mil yearly etc. which is higher than his $1m current, but not enough to get excited. A year goes by so fast and if he’s smart with his body he can pick up $10-20mil for being patient.

He is still in the draft Oldschool - he merely is now declining attending the draft in person.
 
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He is still in the draft Oldschool - he merely is now declining attending the draft in person.
Oh I thought he was considering waiting a year. My bad.
Well I’m not attending either just for the record, so he’ll be fine. :whistling:

PS both of us don’t need to be limping around GB on draft day. It’s not a good look.
 
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He is still in the draft Oldschool - he merely is now declining attending the draft in person.

Even if I knew without a doubt that I was going top 5, I would prefer to be at home, with friends and family, the people that probably got me there. I never really understood the intrigue of sitting backstage, waiting and in some cases hoping, that your name is called. Then walk out onto a stage, in a city where chances are you aren't being drafted to play for. I guess some crave the bright lights?
 
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Even if I knew without a doubt that I was going top 5, I would prefer to be at home, with friends and family, the people that probably got me there. I never really understood the intrigue of sitting backstage, waiting and in some cases hoping, that your name is called. Then walk out onto a stage, in a city where chances are you aren't being drafted to play for. I guess some crave the bright lights?
Maybe they like getting hugs from Roger. That’s gotta feel good.
 

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Ohio St OT Josh Simmons is no longer attending the NFL Draft... wondering if his medical re-checks during Top 30 visits weren't going well. Something obviously hasn't gone his way, that he backed out this late.

A torn patellar tendon is no joke. That's a potential career ender in a veteran.
 

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