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GreenNGold_81

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Says the guy who believes The Vikings would've beaten us if we met them in the playoffs, although we defeated them twice? Matter of fact according to you just about any team in the playoffs would've likely beaten us under certain circumstances?

Correction: any team with an elite running back with a run heavy game plan who was good enough to make the playoffs would have beaten us. The Vikes imo would have beaten us, yes.
 

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Correction: any team with an elite running back with a run heavy game plan who was good enough to make the playoffs would have beaten us. The Vikes imo would have beaten us, yes.
That is an opinion, not a fact. And considering we've beaten them already in Lambeau you have no way of proving otherwise. Practice what you preach.
 

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Correction: any team with an elite running back with a run heavy game plan who was good enough to make the playoffs would have beaten us. The Vikes imo would have beaten us, yes.

We beat the Seahawks. They were #4 running, a couple of spots above the Vikings. Next contestant, here is your prize, thanks for playing.
 

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That is an opinion, not a fact. And considering we've beaten them already in Lambeau you have no way of proving otherwise. Practice what you preach.

I guess that's why I put IMO. How about you check out that last sentence there broski. It is my opinion. Everything on this board should be assumed to be opinion without a stated source.
 

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We beat the Seahawks. They were #4 running, a couple of spots above the Vikings. Next contestant, here is your prize, thanks for playing.

Next up.... How bout YOU check out that first sentence there broski... Particularly the part about elite running backs. Obese Lynch hardly counts (although I believe he scored two tds against our Swiss cheese run defense, imagine what Cook would have done!).
 

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I guess that's why I put IMO. How about you check out that last sentence there broski. It is my opinion. Everything on this board should be assumed to be opinion without a stated source.
I know what I said, and I stand by it. Weren't you the person that just finished telling someone to stick to facts, and yet you go on with your hot takes from earlier as if they were a fact? Gimme a break dude.
 

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Why are y'all bickering about what might have happened last year? We won the division, we got further than the Vikings in the playoffs, and we never even met them in the playoffs. The real question is who's going to win the division next season, if there is one.
 

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Why are y'all bickering about what might have happened last year? We won the division, we got further than the Vikings in the playoffs, and we never even met them in the playoffs. The real question is who's going to win the division next season, if there is one.

It's typical forum banter... "b-b-b--b-ut you saaaaaid thisissssss!!" Finger-pointing and hand waiving. I've had an opinion they're not cool with and I've stood by it. These guys have been trying to break it down with not much effect. It's basically pointless to continue. Man, I can't wait for tomorrow.
 
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what would you have him do now, at his age and declining skill level, with these non-adams receivers? use them or keep holding the ball? take more sacks and hits? lead the league in throw-aways again? all of the above?

I want the Packers front office to improve the talent level on the receiving corps. Rodgers taking more unnecessary risks resulting in an increased number of interceptions doesn't help the offense in any way.

It's typical forum banter... "b-b-b--b-ut you saaaaaid thisissssss!!" Finger-pointing and hand waiving. I've had an opinion they're not cool with and I've stood by it. These guys have been trying to break it down with not much effect. It's basically pointless to continue. Man, I can't wait for tomorrow.

The problem being that you consider your opinion as a fact while completing ignoring others posters presenting facts that your opinion is wrong.
 

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I want the Packers front office to improve the talent level on the receiving corps. Rodgers taking more unnecessary risks resulting in an increased number of interceptions doesn't help the offense in any way.



The problem being that you consider your opinion as a fact while completing ignoring others posters presenting facts that your opinion is wrong.

That's because my opinion is that each of my stated opinions are facts! ;)
 

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Why are y'all bickering about what might have happened last year? We won the division, we got further than the Vikings in the playoffs, and we never even met them in the playoffs. The real question is who's going to win the division next season, if there is one.
Because we're waiting for the new season to come, and what he said was a silly hot take.
 

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I want the Packers front office to improve the talent level on the receiving corps. Rodgers taking more unnecessary risks resulting in an increased number of interceptions doesn't help the offense in any way.
no doubt talent helps but adding another young receiver who rodgers won't throw to isn't going to help in the couple of years he has left. he didn't throw for 4k yards in 2019 with crap WR's. they got open and caught it at a high rate when he managed to throw to them. he had way more bad passes than he had passes dropped...by a looong shot.
 

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no doubt talent helps but adding another young receiver who rodgers won't throw to isn't going to help in the couple of years he has left. he didn't throw for 4k yards in 2019 with crap WR's. they got open and caught it at a high rate when he managed to throw to them. he had way more bad passes than he had passes dropped...by a looong shot.

Packers lead the league in dropped pass yardage. I know that kind of doesn't support your contention here, but I thought it was relevant.
 

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Why are y'all bickering about what might have happened last year? We won the division, we got further than the Vikings in the playoffs, and we never even met them in the playoffs. The real question is who's going to win the division next season, if there is one.

Yeah man! And Trent Dilfer got further in the playoffs than Dan Marino EVER DID!!! WINZZZZ arguments are the best!
 

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no doubt talent helps but adding another young receiver who rodgers won't throw to isn't going to help in the couple of years he has left. he didn't throw for 4k yards in 2019 with crap WR's. they got open and caught it at a high rate when he managed to throw to them. he had way more bad passes than he had passes dropped...by a looong shot.
Where to even start with this.
  • Rodgers did throw for 4,000+ yards. Do your homework.
  • The frequency with which Rodgers utilized Allen Lazard, dispels of your notion that he won't throw to a young player.
  • Rodgers targeted MVS 36 times in the first 5 games of 2019, once again dispelling of the notion that Rodgers won't throw to a young player. Interesting how his snap counts started to go down after that because of a performance issue on the field, but of course you'll blame Rodgers for that instead of acknowledging that LaFleur sends in the personnel packages.
  • Did you see how much of a factor Equanimeous St. Brown was in 2018, even with Adams and Cobb on the roster? Do you not remember the throw on the sideline that Rodgers threw to him on the game winning drive against San Francisco? It was a back shoulder beauty to St. Brown, which requires timing and trust in the receiver. I'd say trusting a young player like that on a game winning drive when it's all or nothing constitutes throwing to a young player in a meaningful situation. Maybe you disagree? :rolleyes:
  • You'll never acknowledge that a lot of those "bad passes" were receivers taking the wrong angles, or not having precise yardage discipline in coming out of their breaks at the right times. Of course not. Every time Rodgers doesn't put it directly in the chest of the receiver, it's automatically the quarterbacks fault. At least in your world. lol.
Once again, you only point out the negatives to Rodgers. Guess what? Here's how objective I am. He didn't play as well as we've seen him play in the past. He missed throws he normally makes. He missed open receivers. He didn't hit every single check down when there was a wide open guy.

See how that works? But please, continue with your consistent bashing of Rodgers, spinning every single negative thing you can construe as a shot against him, never acknowledging that not everything is his fault.

You've gotten to where you're a knock knock joke. Except, every once in a while, knock knock jokes are funny. You aren't.
 

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Packers lead the league in dropped pass yardage. I know that kind of doesn't support your contention here, but I thought it was relevant.
I haven't fact checked this, but if true, of course he won't acknowledge this. Either that, or he'll still spin it into being Rodgers fault. Receiver drops the ball? Well Rodgers threw it too hard. Receiver fumbles? Rodgers should have spun some web out of his wrist like Spiderman to recover the ball. Receiver runs the wrong route? Rodgers should have anticipated the receiver taking the wrong angle and throw it to the exact spot the receiver shouldn't have been in.
 

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I want the Packers front office to improve the talent level on the receiving corps. Rodgers taking more unnecessary risks resulting in an increased number of interceptions doesn't help the offense in any way.

Having a potent running game that opponents have to respect even more than last season should help Rodgers avoid getting hammered. One thing AR has to embrace is taking what the defense gives you. He could be even more lethal in P-A.
 
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Having a potent running game that opponents have to respect even more than last season should help Rodgers avoid getting hammered. One thing AR has to embrace is taking what the defense gives you. He could be even more lethal in P-A.

MLF has said that the more he can take off QBs shoulders, the more effective he'll be. And I presume the RB/TE sets for the run game is intended to help AR though not directly.
 

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Big unit in about 45 mins will have Greg Cossell on...Greg does coach film break down for The nfl match up and nfl.films

105.7 radio out of Milwaukee

Some one that has done this for years and is prob one of the best around will give his take on rodgers Performance last year.

Lot of you will be very shocked to hear what he has to say
 

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Lot of you will be very shocked to hear what he has to say
Listened to it, and the clip they played from the Super Bowl. Basically he said Rodgers does not take the open throw, because he doesn't trust some of the receivers, and that is frustrating to LeFleur.
 

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Listened to it, and the clip they played from the Super Bowl. Basically he said Rodgers does not take the open throw, because he doesn't trust some of the receivers, and that is frustrating to LeFleur.
That was it??

hmmm

will post the full one as soon as it’s up
 

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It is troublesome. Rodgers kept throwing to Devante when he was having a lot of drops and Devante eventually blossomed. We know he likes MVS, he has praised him in the past and threw to him as a rookie. Same with some of the other guys from last season as well.
 

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Cossell specifically talked about the play where LeFleur and Rodgers had their somewhat famous dustup on the sideline last year. He said Rodgers didn't take the open throw, but focused on Adams until he eventually has to throw it away. LeFleur ran up to him yelling "Throw the ball!", indicating that Rodgers wasn't playing within the system.
 

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