Ted Thompson Legacy Reaches Highest Stink Worse Than Mike Sherman

[Do7]

Maybe, but I view it as blowing off steam after a very disappointing season(s).

Dude, I feel the same way as you do, but at the same time I'm trying to remain level headed and offer some proper perspective. A majority of us are free fall right now and someone's gotta keep it together in the midst of everything. But make no mistake i'm just as disappointed as everyone else is.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

So if we cut Bulaga, what’s the plan from there on the oline? To replace 3 of 5 Olinemen through draft and FA?

Less than a year after an ACL tear, Bulaga has had one of his better years as a pro. Both him and DB struggled at points but i place that blame on the revolving doors they had for guards...

I agree that Bulaga is getting older but i just cant justify cutting him. The focus needs to be placed on the OG’s,

And he has a 95℅ chance of missing all next season. He must be cut. Get a big bad *** young Michael Oher type tackle and then axe Lane Taylor and grab a top 5 OLman to replace him.

Enough of putting up with liabilities up front.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

I hate to disagree with you @PackerfaninCarolina . But let's look at the overall picture here. Look I get that this season has been an unmitigated disaster, but worse than the Sherman years? I respectfully disagree. For starters we got a SB title within this past decade so that in of itself is proof that it has been far more successful.

Next let's factor in that we've been making the playoffs consistently with the exception of these past two years and we've made it to 3 NFC Championship games. Granted we lost 2 of the three, but still that's far better than most teams in the NFC. Ted Thompson made some bone headed decisions in regards to sticking with his draft and develop, but let's not pretend that we didn't get some good players from under his time. Thompson's problem and I say the same with Mike is that the two refused to adapt as the time change. We've should've gotten rid of Capers years ago for starters, but they did bring us a title.

Let's face it you guys and this is a hard pill for us to swallow, but we need to accept this one fact. We've been spoiled. Plain and simple. Just about every year it was a forgone conclusion that we would win the division, and Rodgers was our magic bullet able to pull miracles left and right. And now we're in a transition stage. I still say next year we'll be in the hunt and can right the ship considering how close these games have been. It's not like there's anyone head and shoulders better than us right now.

What I will fault Ted and McCarthy for is the fact there over reliance on Rodgers in the later years have put The Packers far more in a bind as a result, when Rodgers went down last year we saw that this team is far worse than anticipated. That is what I fault them for. There have been plenty of times where we should've been more aggressive in FA and keeping some players but we were so stuck with the process. Now that Chicago and Minnesota have closed the gap on us, we're now in a bind, that may take a few years to fix and the problem is we have a transcendent QB who's talent we've wasted b/c we were too arrogant and not aggressive when we should.

We're in a rough patch right now, but still this IS fixable. I understand this losing season sucks, but again let's face it: We've been spoiled you guys. I can think of plenty of other teams that would LOVE our problems right now. Let's focus on what where we can go from here. We'll be back next year! Book it! Keep your head up Packer Nation!

I think you misunderstood what I meant. I didn't say Ted Thompson's entire tenure as GM was bad, just that the last 3 years of making bad roster moves was and put us in a bad if not worse position than awful Sherman.

Now I do agree it is fixable. We got to the NFCCG just two seasons after we fired Sherman out of here, and I think we can do the same after kicking this lousy coaching staff outta here too. But today really highlighted just how lazy bad Thompson got in that front office.

 

[gonzozab]

This is hardly reactionary for me. I've been saying for years this team is not very good without Rodgers, as evidenced by their record when Rodgers doesn't play/finish a game due to injury, and this year's team may be the worst team yet during the Rodgers era. Teddy created this mess, and it may be a hole too deep to dig out of for many years to come.

 

[Do7]

I think you misunderstood what I meant. I didn't say Ted Thompson's entire tenure as GM was bad, just that the last 3 years of making bad roster moves was and put us in a bad if not worse position than awful Sherman.

Now I do agree it is fixable. We got to the NFCCG just two seasons after we fired Sherman out of here, and I think we can do the same after kicking this lousy coaching staff outta here too. But today really highlighted just how lazy bad Thompson got in that front office.

Okay if you're referring to the past 3 years then I absolutely agree buddy. I do think Thompson and McCarthy has been slacking over these past years due to their reliance on Arodg. Glad we're on the same page buddy. This season was a disaster but it is FIXABLE.

 

[Packfan123451]

And he has a 95℅ chance of missing all next season. He must be cut. Get a big bad *** young Michael Oher type tackle and then axe Lane Taylor and grab a top 5 OLman to replace him.

Enough of putting up with liabilities up front.

I know the “Cut Bulaga” thought is very popular because of the cap savings (you’re going to spend that money regardless). I’m just arguing that it would leave us in a tough spot. “Get a young bad ***” is a lot easier said than done. Plus, if you focus on replacing BB and Lane Taylor then you’re suggesting we stick with McCray? Bell? Patrick?!

You need to keep BB at least through his contract, draft someone to develop under him. Work on replacing guards through FA.

 

[brandon2348]

Thompson flat out destroyed this roster. Were seeing the damage today that was done over the past several years. A lot of us saw this coming 2-3 seasons ago and for some even longer ago. He ruined our Super Bowl window with bad drafts and **** poor personnel decisions along with being stubborn and sitting on his hands in free agency. Now were worse then the Cleveland Browns. We are back to being NFL "bottom feeders".

The question is how long will it take to recover? Gute has been turning the roster over since he took over and I believe most of the big name older guys will all soon be gone soon if it makes cap sense. I'm actually relieved. Just tired of guys like Clay Matthew's getting paid like there "all-world" with such garbage play..

It could take a few years to get back but I don't believe it has too. Gute has the picks and the $ to make us contenders with another round of good picks and good free agent decisions.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

This is hardly reactionary for me. I've been saying for years this team is not very good without Rodgers, as evidenced by their record when Rodgers doesn't play/finish a game due to injury, and this year's team may be the worst team yet during the Rodgers era. Teddy created this mess, and it may be a hole too deep to dig out of for many years to come.

I wouldn't say "many" years to come, unless Murphy and Gute badly screw up this HC hire or something. Make no mistake this will be the biggest decision yet in the early Gute era, and could definitely set the tone big time for the last few years of Rodgers's career.

But if he plays his cards right and starts stockpiling more weapons in this offense, and doesn't waste cap space by hanging onto injury liabilities like Bulaga and Perry, I think we can get this ship moving in the right direction much sooner. Next season might be a tough one a little like 2006, but I don't see us going down the 2003-2010 San Francisco 49er road or anything like that.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

I know the “Cut Bulaga” thought is very popular because of the cap savings (you’re going to spend that money regardless). I’m just arguing that it would leave us in a tough spot. “Get a young bad ***” is a lot easier said than done. Plus, if you focus on replacing BB and Lane Taylor then you’re suggesting we stick with McCray? Bell? Patrick?!

You need to keep BB at least through his contract, draft someone to develop under him. Work on replacing guards through FA.

With the draft positioning we have for that, I disagree. Besides, our OL is already in a hole and keeping Bulaga there will only delay its fixing. Time to draft some quality hogs up front.

 

[TomBrownFan40]

With the draft positioning we have for that, I disagree. Besides, our OL is already in a hole and keeping Bulaga there will only delay its fixing. Time to draft some quality hogs up front.

I wholeheartedly agree. I love Bulaga but, he can't stay healthy. I want some large people in the draft.

 

[Northwoods]

I’m probably going to get a lot of riled up fans a wee bit upset with me for my perspective on TT. But here goes. Strike one; agreeing to overpay an aging qb. Strike two; dumping Jordy Nelson before he should have. The chemistry was good between him and Rodgers. Strike three; holding onto The Portly One, should have been fired last off season.
Sorry to mix my metaphors but it’s three and out Mr Thompson.

 

[Do7]

Strike two; dumping Jordy Nelson before he should have. The chemistry was good between him and Rodgers.
Sorry to mix my metaphors but it’s three and out Mr Thompson.

YES! I agree it was a year early for us to get rid of Jordy!

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

I’m probably going to get a lot of riled up fans a wee bit upset with me for my perspective on TT. But here goes. Strike one; agreeing to overpay an aging qb. Strike two; dumping Jordy Nelson before he should have. The chemistry was good between him and Rodgers. Strike three; holding onto The Portly One, should have been fired last off season.
Sorry to mix my metaphors but it’s three and out Mr Thompson.

For the record, those were all Gute's moves, well besides keeping MM initially which fell on Murphy. Although potentially Thompson did setup Rodgers in a situation where he demanded his money because the offense got starved of talent and Van Pelt was sent packing in the dead of night. One might surmise that had TT not sent Cook walking and done a better job of giving Rodgers weapons maybe we wouldn't be in a pay the piper situation.

Also, I don't think keeping Jordy would have made much difference. But that again is on Gute not Thompson. But what Thompson did do was keep on wasting our draft capital on Capers's soft defenses, having so much cap space available for FA pickups in emergencies but never using it, and ... Well idk, just some bizarre things going on in our coaches rooms he didn't put in check.

He did a good job building initially but got lazy in his last few years.

 

[BrokenArrow]

First off, The Vikings and Bears barely beat us, so while they closed the gap, they aren't head and shoulders better than us, and considering we split with Chicago, and SHOULD'VE beaten DID BEAT Minnesota the first time.

IFIFY

 

[PackerFanLV]

TT was drafting safties and putting them as linebackers and corners for years lol.

 

[XPack]

First off, The Vikings and Bears barely beat us, so while they closed the gap, they aren't head and shoulders better than us, and considering we split with Chicago, and SHOULD'VE beaten Minnesota the first time that's also something to take into consideration.

We were the ones punching above our weight earlier on. The 2nd round showed clearly how large the gap was. If we had a 5 match series vs either Bears or Vikings, we'd lose the series 100%. It's feckin hard to say, but we are 3rd best in the division this season. Hopefully we reclaim our top spot next season.

 

[Do7]

We were the ones punching above our weight earlier on. The 2nd round showed clearly how large the gap was. If we had a 5 match series vs either Bears or Vikings, we'd lose the series 100%. It's feckin hard to say, but we are 3rd best in the division this season. Hopefully we reclaim our top spot next season.

The second round against The Vikings, Rodgers missed some throws that could've resulted in TD's, and we blew that game in Chicago, again b/c Rodgers was off his game. If we had a 5 match series I'd say it could go either way, but you wanna believe that Cousins can outgun Arodg again? Or Trubisky? I'll take that bet!

 

[azrsx05]

Thompson is such an overrated gm. He doesn't deserve the HOF induction. He got lucky all other teams passed up on Rodgers. He was never able to draft defensive guys and constantly tried to convert guys from other positions and make them into something they were not

 

[XPack]

The second round against The Vikings, Rodgers missed some throws that could've resulted in TD's, and we blew that game in Chicago, again b/c Rodgers was off his game. If we had a 5 match series I'd say it could go either way, but you wanna believe that Cousins can outgun Arodg again? Or Trubisky? I'll take that bet!

When did NFL become a QB vs QB game?

Bears are a quite a bit better team than Vikes. Vikes are slightly better team than us.

 

[swhitset]

Dude, I feel the same way as you do, but at the same time I'm trying to remain level headed and offer some proper perspective. A majority of us are free fall right now and someone's gotta keep it together in the midst of everything. But make no mistake i'm just as disappointed as everyone else is.

I think only a predictable few are in free fall.

 

[fix8ed]

I seem to remember us winning a Super Bowl with more injuries than this. I'm not even talking about the depth. This team just isn't very talented regardless of depth. Name one position other than quarterback that we have a decided advantage over the Bears and Vikings, and even the gap at the quarterback position has closed some.

I certainly agree with this post. The team lacks talent and there are now so many gaps to fill that fans could be looking at years before the Pack defeats a competitive team . I can think of a dozen players and coaches whose lockers should have been cleared by staff before the half ended on this final fiasco. It was embarrassing . We could probably still get equipment in a trade for Jimmy Graham though. Maybe.

 

[Do7]

When did NFL become a QB vs QB game?

Bears are a quite a bit better team than Vikes. Vikes are slightly better team than us.

Better defensively? Yeah, I agree. Offensively, not so much regarding Chicago. Vikings the same goes with them, defensively they get the edge, but I still think we're better slightly.

They won't be able to rely on that defense forever. Trubisky is gonna have to throw that ball. He won't be able to win in a shootout.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Thompson is such an overrated gm. He doesn't deserve the HOF induction. He got lucky all other teams passed up on Rodgers. He was never able to draft defensive guys and constantly tried to convert guys from other positions and make them into something they were not

Some of that was on Capers and McCarthy though. I think a few of his defensive picks would have done better if Capers and Whitt hadn't screwed with them. But still yes I agree, he definitely reeks of mediocrity not worthy of Hof induction. Just too much staining him because it's what have you done for me lately here.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Some of that was on Capers and McCarthy though. I think a few of his defensive picks would have done better if Capers and Whitt hadn't screwed with them. But still yes I agree, he definitely reeks of mediocrity not worthy of Hof induction. Just too much staining him because it's what have you done for me lately here.

Maybe Ted was the "smart one".....he basically got out before it all crumbled.

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[lambeaulambo]

Since when does Thompson deserve Packer HOF inductee status?....one lucky wild card super bowl trophy, followed by the good old boys club of McCarthy, Capers, and Murphy flailing around an amazing young qb and not showing him back to the title. That is what he was. His defensive draft track record speaks for itself...a solid D plus. He had Rodgers to fill in around...no way, he was average to below average overall. Sounds like something the Milwaukee Brewers would do.