Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

[Phil Young]

the whole Rodgers situation is a distraction the team doesn't need. Sometimes you have to remove a limb for the body to l
lve. & yes #12 is good, very,very good but not good enough to win a game on his own,he needs an offensive line to protect him & a wideout to catch the ball. My point is If he wants to go let him go & hopefully move on with Love & hope he is the real deal

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

not good enough to win a game on his own

While he needs 10 other players to run an offense, he is good enough to be a huge difference in a game. If he stays, I am banking on that. If he is traded, I am banking on the other team to believe that. If he retires, the bank dries up.

 

[thequick12]

the whole Rodgers situation is a distraction the team doesn't need. Sometimes you have to remove a limb for the body to l
lve. & yes #12 is good, very,very good but not good enough to win a game on his own,he needs an offensive line to protect him & a wideout to catch the ball. My point is If he wants to go let him go & hopefully move on with Love & hope he is the real deal

Why wouldn't, using your logic, it be better to cut off whatever limb Gutekunst represents?

If you have the choice of cutting off your pinky or your thumb...in what scenario would it be smarter to cut off your thumb?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Why wouldn't, using your logic, it be better to cut off whatever limb Gutekunst represents?

If you have the choice of cutting off your pinky or your thumb...in what scenario would it be smarter to cut off your thumb?

Sounds like you assume that both are of equal health and it is a logical choice of one over the other? Or maybe you think the thumb (Rodgers) is super healthy, but the pinky (Gute) is dead? As of now, from the reports I have heard, seems more like our thumb is hanging on by a thread and a good possibility that no real surgical methods will repair it. Even if they do, it may go gangrene (not to be confused with "Gang Green") in a short time. So I would have to ask, why would you cut off a perfectly good pinky if that was the case?

 

[Heyjoe4]

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure, whatever.

 

[OldSchool101]

Sounds like you assume that both are of equal health and it is a logical choice of one over the other? Or maybe you think the thumb (Rodgers) is super healthy, but the pinky (Gute) is dead? As of now, from the reports I have heard, seems more like our thumb is hanging on by a thread and a good possibility that no real surgical methods will repair it. Even if they do, it may go gangrene (not to be confused with "Gang Green") in a short time. So I would have to ask, why would you cut off a perfectly good pinky if that was the case?

I don’t know if this counts but.. here we go

I once dropped a quarter in the toilet after taking a dump. Hardly worth going after it. So I went ahead and threw several rare coins from my Grandpa’s coin collection in with it. It made it so much more worth it going through that poopy water.
But I’ve never liked coin collections since. A rare Indian head Penny makes me want to throw up

I guess what I’m trying to say is.. just flush the toilet when it stinks

 

[rmontro]

If the FO has been told by Rodgers or his agent that its a "done deal" and #12 wont be playing in Green Bay ever again, a trade deal needs to get done ASAP.

I agree if it happens, it's likely to happen quickly. If not, teams that were willing to offer the most may make other arrangements, and you miss the opportunity.

 

[ARPackFan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure, whatever.

Mark Murphy from January -

"There's no way in heck Aaron is not gonna be on the Packers. He's going to be the MVP of the league, might have had his best year ever, he's our unquestioned leader, and we're not idiots."

So if Rodgers isn't with the Packers come September then is this an admission they are idiots?

 

[OldSchool101]

Mark Murphy from January -

"There's no way in heck Aaron is not gonna be on the Packers. He's going to be the MVP of the league, might have had his best year ever, he's our unquestioned leader, and we're not idiots."

So if Rodgers isn't with the Packers come September then is this an admission they are idiots?

Thank you so much and I just don’t know.
But I do know they have quite an opportunity here...

They could be sure fire idiots by this coming Wednesday

 

[swhitset]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure, whatever.

That was a month ago

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

"There's no way in heck Aaron is not gonna be on the Packers. He's going to be the MVP of the league, might have had his best year ever, he's our unquestioned leader, and we're not idiots."

I believe this was more about what the Packers intentions are/were. What Aaron does is a bit beyond their control.

So sure, both Murphy and Gute could still be idiots, for this and/or other things, but if they do everything they can within reason to try and convince Aaron to stay and he doesn't, can hardly say that either was lying about their intentions.

 

[OldSchool101]

I believe this was more about what the Packers intentions are/were. What Aaron does is a bit beyond their control.

So sure, both Murphy and Gute could still be idiots, for this and/or other things, but if they do everything they can within reason to try and convince Aaron to stay and he doesn't, can hardly say that either was lying about their intentions.

Particularly if GB commits to bringing his guaranteed up to a point where it’s an extension past this season.
If Rodgers is so confident, then he can take the offer that keeps him here another season or two past 2021 Then put up back to back MVP’s and get those Lombardi trophies. It’s not like we can’t reconsider and put this behind us if he’s top of his game. If he wins the SB this season and puts up a 100+ type rating again, does anyone think we won’t attempt to extend him on shorter deals.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Particularly if GB commits to bringing his guaranteed up to a point where it’s an extension past this season.
If Rodgers is so confident, then he can take the offer that keeps him here another season or two past 2021 Then put up back to back MVP’s and get those Lombardi trophies. It’s not like we can’t reconsider and put this behind us if he’s top of his game. If he wins the SB this season and puts up a 100+ type rating again, does anyone think we won’t attempt to extend him on shorter deals.

That is the silly part, Rodgers would have remained a Packer, just like most players, as long as he wanted to be a Packer and overall team value was on the plus side.


I mean there comes a point where it just doesn't make sense to try and appease him. If his demands are reasonable, make good sense with a 5 year team plan and aren't over-leveraging our cap future for one guy, then do it. But if they trade Rodgers or he retires, I have a feeling that it was because Rodgers had dug his heels in way too deep and nothing reasonable would change his mind.

 

[Zartan]

What if Gute/Murphy do actually want him back and wont trade him but Rodgers feels so slighted by them that he will willingly sit out the season.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

What I really don't understand about the whole situation, if it is only Rodgers wringing his hands over job security, is that absolutely nothing has changed since he signed his contract but perceptions. Rodgers is still a great QB, he proved it last season. Rodgers is still viewed 1 million percent the Packers starter. Rodgers is still under contract, one that he personally agreed to and signed. His or anyone's perception that the Packers are suddenly going to replace him with Jordan Love, a guy who has taken zero snaps in the NFL, nor has he dressed for a game that I am aware of, is kind of nuts. So I keep asking myself, WTF has changed in Aaron's head?

Which is why I'm thinking it is a bit less to do with where Rodgers time was going to end and Love's begins as opposed to a QB who perhaps doesn't believe the Packers will ever take an "all-in" approach to their off-season moves.

Now, I would say while this is highly unlikely, it is possible the front office was looking at setting a move on plan in motion. No, they weren't going to move on from Rodgers this season, but I would say it's not out of the realm of possibility to say they could have been wanting to do so in 2022 or 2023. Not likely, but I don't think it's as far fetched as some would believe.

The most likely situation is that he probably was figuring the chances were small that the Packers were going to try and get game breakers on the roster after the 2020 draft. For example, the Baltimore Ravens did this for Ray Lewis heading into 2012 when they went out and got guys like Anquan Boldin, Torrey Smith, Jacoby Jones, etc and basically made their offense stronger to bolster the defense. Now, the Packers do have some limitations on how they could do that with Rodgers's contract, but did Gute ever approach him with the idea of restructuring it for him to get more cap space for such moves so he could go after such talent? I got a feeling the answer to that is no.

 

[tynimiller]

What if Gute/Murphy do actually want him back and wont trade him but Rodgers feels so slighted by them that he will willingly sit out the season.

i without question believe they do want him back, I’ve never doubted that myself

 

[G0P4ckG0]

i without question believe they do want him back, I’ve never doubted that myself

Exactly, but nowhere near Rodgers' asking (demanding) price.

It is like a vintage car collector going going an auction where his dream car will be up for bid. He goes into it thinking "I'll do anything to get it even if I have to spend my entire life savings". Then the auction starts and the price ends up climbing to an absurd amount that is literally going to cripple the guy financially unless he sells his current car assets which he greatly cherishes.

That is where the Packers are at.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

What if Gute/Murphy do actually want him back and wont trade him but Rodgers feels so slighted by them that he will willingly sit out the season.

Well, so far they are saying they do, but it's just a matter of how much.

As to what Rodgers would do, well retirement would probably put him in the worst position because he would lose any last chances he ever wanted to have to win a SB. The Packers would lose out on a chance to get compensated for him, but in holding his rights, he'd be unable to unretire and just head off to any team he wanted. Holding out wouldn't make for anything any better really, so I just don't see him taking either of these options.

It will come down to the 11th hour, but I only see two viable options for both parties which are either the situation gets resolved and made equitable for Rodgers, OR he gets traded. Just don't see it coming to anything else.

 

[BrokenArrow]

Why wouldn't, using your logic, it be better to cut off whatever limb Gutekunst represents?

If you have the choice of cutting off your pinky or your thumb...in what scenario would it be smarter to cut off your thumb?

Rodgers isn't the thumb.

 

[BrokenArrow]

If he wins the SB this season and puts up a 100+ type rating again, does anyone think we won’t attempt to extend him on shorter deals.

He should have won the SB 4 months ago. He had the #5 yardage offense and the #1 scoring offense. What more does he need offensively? The defense provided three second half interceptions and we punted after two of them. I don't give two ***** what a guy does in the regular season. If he fails to show up when it matters most, that's far more important. If he wants to walk, get him out of here and move on without the constant distractions. Does anyone really believe if they appease him now he won't pull the same **** next year over something else? It's like spoiling a child.

 

[BrokenArrow]

Exactly, but nowhere near Rodgers' asking (demanding) price.

It is like a vintage car collector going going an auction where his dream car will be up for bid. He goes into it thinking "I'll do anything to get it even if I have to spend my entire life savings". Then the auction starts and the price ends up climbing to an absurd amount that is literally going to cripple the guy financially unless he sells his current car assets which he greatly cherishes.

That is where the Packers are at.

And aging quarterbacks are like muscle cars with high miles. You can keep racing them but eventually you're going to throw a rod.

 

[BrokenArrow]

What if Gute/Murphy do actually want him back and wont trade him but Rodgers feels so slighted by them that he will willingly sit out the season.

I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

 

[swhitset]

I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

Agreed...
I know this is an unpopular position, but I would let him sit. I realize most people would just want to trade him for value. I would sacrifice that to send a message back that the contract is still binding and the team is not going to capitulate.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Agreed...
I know this is an unpopular position, but I would let him sit. I realize most people would just want to trade him for value. I would sacrifice that to send a message back that the contract is still binding and the team is not going to capitulate.

But would trading be capitulation? Or would it be us moving on and using that method to build for the future? We gotta look beyond the short term drama and make the engine run at warp 10 speed for years to come.

 

[G0P4ckG0]

But would trading be capitulation? Or would it be us moving on and using that method to build for the future? We gotta look beyond the short term drama and make the engine run at warp 10 speed for years to come.

Letting him sit is petty. Rather than hold a grudge, get something in return for him so that we as fans can watch a competitive team for the next 15 years.