Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

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It's a great "problem" to have, but kind of an expensive one when you factor in the 2 Smith Brothers salaries. However, good timing since Gary still has 2 cheap years and a potential 5th year option to keep his cost down. Most of us talk about Preston being gone after this season, but Z Dog is scheduled to be a $28M cap hit in 2022, so this very well could be the last season we see all 3 in Green and Gold.

I do believe one of them won't be here come 2022. Z has made it crystal clear he wants to be a Packer for life, BUT that doesn't mean he is willing to pen a line on an extension Russ and Gute construct - it appears that has to be a communication which is occurring but with how much fervor only a few parties would know.
 

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I do believe one of them won't be here come 2022. Z has made it crystal clear he wants to be a Packer for life, BUT that doesn't mean he is willing to pen a line on an extension Russ and Gute construct - it appears that has to be a communication which is occurring but with how much fervor only a few parties would know.
I'm anxious to see P. Smith this year. Sounds like he is in much better shape and his 2020 off year was attributed to being in less than stellar shape.

Packers have kind of got themselves into a Cap pickle, which is another reason I can see them trading Rodgers in 2022. If they resign Adams and Alexander that has them with huge contracts on:

1. Rodgers
2. A. Jones
3. Bahk
4. Adams
5. Z Smith
6. P. Smith
7. K. Clark
8. JA
9. Amos
 

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If they all keep playing like they have, I don't see either being gone actually. We need at least 3 pass rushers. Injury and stuff of course will play a role. But unless we have some young guy we know nothing about really step up and make on expendable, I don't see it happening outside of just an overall big change of direction with the team until after this and the next season.
 

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I'm anxious to see P. Smith this year. Sounds like he is in much better shape and his 2020 off year was attributed to being in less than stellar shape.
I'm glad he is on the team also. Hopefully the new DC will do better with him too. I don't think he ever said anything but I wonder how he liked the way he was told to play last year.
 

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ACTIVE PLAYERS (48)POS.BASE SALARYSIGNING BONUSROSTER BONUSRESTRUC. BONUSMISC.DEAD CAPCAP HITCAP %
Aaron RodgersQB$25,000,000$11,500,000--$500,000$2,852,000-($17,204,000)$39,852,00019.14
Za'Darius SmithOLB$14,500,000$5,000,000$500,000-$750,000$7,380,000-($12,380,000)$28,130,00013.51
David BakhtiariLT$3,200,000$6,000,000$10,000,000-$800,000$2,768,000-($39,304,000)$22,768,00010.94
Kenny ClarkDT$8,000,000$5,000,000$6,950,000-$700,000--($15,000,000)$20,650,0009.92
Preston SmithOLB50,00$7,250,000$3,500,00-$650,000

Workout Bonus
--($7,250,000)$19,750,0009.49
Jaire AlexanderCB$13,294,000------($13,294,000)$13,294,0006.39
Adrian AmosFS$7,000,000$2,750,000$400,000-$500,000$1,332,000-($4,082,000)$11,982,0005.76
Aaron JonesRB$1,100,000$3,250,000$4,150,000-$500,000--($9,750,000)$9,000,0004.32
Billy TurnerG$5,200,000$2,250,000$300,000-$350,000$871,250-($4,863,750)$8,971,2504.31
Dean LowryDE$4,900,000$1,500,000$400,000-$500,000$622,000-($3,988,000)$7,922,0003.80


OK.....the new system on here kind of sucks for editing or making changes, I don't even see a delete option. So apologies for the big table, but those cap numbers next year are just nasty. Obviously, everything can be reworked and shoved out, but its getting to that point where some big money players will need to go.
 

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If they all keep playing like they have, I don't see either being gone actually. We need at least 3 pass rushers. Injury and stuff of course will play a role. But unless we have some young guy we know nothing about really step up and make on expendable, I don't see it happening outside of just an overall big change of direction with the team until after this and the next season.

I'll go on record saying that the only way they both are here in 2022 occurs only one of two ways IMO.

Something leads to a massive restructure of both again contract wise

2 of the 3 of Rodgers, Adams and Alexander are not here in 2022
 
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It's a great "problem" to have, but kind of an expensive one when you factor in the 2 Smith Brothers salaries. However, good timing since Gary still has 2 cheap years and a potential 5th year option to keep his cost down. Most of us talk about Preston being gone after this season, but Z Dog is scheduled to be a $28M cap hit in 2022, so this very well could be the last season we see all 3 in Green and Gold.
That’s the thing. If you’re going to pay a man 8.75mil (Preston) he’s going to start and play often. In my mind Barry needs to get all 3 involved regular. I don’t know what that involves in his system, but those 3 will be key in turning the tide.

Again, the best example of what I’m implying was post-bye week 2014. It also involved 3 similar players/roles. That D went from 20-something ranked to like 13th in what 7-8 games? That means they played like a top 6 Defense with Perry, Peppers and Clay in unison and it was that D that started 16-0 against a very good Russell Wilson in the NFC game.
 
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Adams said

. I think everybody’s mindset, everybody is going to love Aaron the same way when he returns
 

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OK.....the new system on here kind of sucks for editing or making changes, I don't even see a delete option. So apologies for the big table, but those cap numbers next year are just nasty. Obviously, everything can be reworked and shoved out, but its getting to that point where some big money players will need to go.
Lawry looks expensive to me. Especially considering that we sign a linebacker for 2 million (I cannot believe my computer doesn't have a dollar sign), and people were high as a kite. I guess I'll mark that up as irrational exuberance.
 

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Rodgers May 1st 2021...bakh, hawk, ?, Cobb, Teller

Anyone know who ? Is...
 

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Per PFT Rodgers can opt-out of the '21 season for any reason. The deadline is next Friday, 7/02, and if used can't be rescinded. This would save him $18.3Mil in unearned bonuses (that should he not opt out, but hold out would need to re-pay GB). Would also accomplish his quest to not play for GB in '21, AND get him to '22 when he'll (hopefully) get traded elsewhere. It would give GB his base salary ($14.7Mil) back in cap relief and possibly another $500k work out bonus that he'll forfeit. Only have a week to wait for this parachute to be pulled, or not.
 

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Per PFT Rodgers can opt-out of the '21 season for any reason. The deadline is next Friday, 7/02, and if used can't be rescinded. This would save him $18.3Mil in unearned bonuses (that should he not opt out, but hold out would need to re-pay GB). Would also accomplish his quest to not play for GB in '21, AND get him to '22 when he'll (hopefully) get traded elsewhere. It would give GB his base salary ($14.7Mil) back in cap relief and possibly another $500k work out bonus that he'll forfeit. Only have a week to wait for this parachute to be pulled, or not.
I'm curious to see if Adams gets extended by then. If he does, I would lean towards a packaged trade with him and Rodgers next year.
 

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It may be an option, but I don't see it as a viable one. Rodgers isn't at that point in his career where sitting out a season is going to do him much good. That's just going to hurt everyone in this situation. If I was GB and wanted to extend Adams, which I can see regardless of the Rodgers situation and I think both sides are open to it, I wouldn't sign him to then package and trade him. That would just shoot yourself in the foot again. Give the big money to sit dead on your cap and trade away a great asset?

If you or he doesn't really want to be here, then don't sign him in the first place. What good are draft picks if you have to let some good guys go because you don't cap space to sign them because you used it on a player you no longer have? and if you're going to package Adams and Rodgers? Man, you have a pretty big buyer or you're just sitting with something nice nobody wants to pay for and just wants a part of it.
 

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Per PFT Rodgers can opt-out of the '21 season for any reason. The deadline is next Friday, 7/02, and if used can't be rescinded. This would save him $18.3Mil in unearned bonuses (that should he not opt out, but hold out would need to re-pay GB). Would also accomplish his quest to not play for GB in '21, AND get him to '22 when he'll (hopefully) get traded elsewhere. It would give GB his base salary ($14.7Mil) back in cap relief and possibly another $500k work out bonus that he'll forfeit. Only have a week to wait for this parachute to be pulled, or not.
I'm pretty sure your contract is in pause mode - at least that is what I recall from Funchess opting out. So I think that puts Rodgers in the same position. Just lost a year of playing time. My greatest fantasy is that Love takes over and wins a SB. Rodgers watches from his couch in Cali. Tears welling up and a frown on his face. Jaw starts to quiver as the final seconds expire and Love is carried off the field and Rodgers sees his old teammates really love Love.
 

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It may be an option, but I don't see it as a viable one. Rodgers isn't at that point in his career where sitting out a season is going to do him much good. That's just going to hurt everyone in this situation.
Not saying it's a great option, but it depends on how adamant AR is in not returning. He loses a year of playing time, $14.7Mil in salary, and is still relying on GB trading him. Opting-out also closes the door on an in-season trade. GB loses the bonus $ that AR has already pocketed but not earned through '21 play. GB gets $15Mil (ish) in cap relief to sign a vet or 2 and/or extend a player or 2 (Alexander, Adams (if he "supports" AR's decision but wants to stay in GB long term), MVS, Patrick, Tonyan, or Funchess?).
 

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So I am reading something different about Rodgers being able to opt out.

Packers' Aaron Rodgers can't opt out unless he's developed a condition since October​


 

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If I was GB and wanted to extend Adams, which I can see regardless of the Rodgers situation and I think both sides are open to it, I wouldn't sign him to then package and trade him.
I wouldn't let Adams drag that decision out too long, either he wants to stay in Green Bay or he doesn't. If he isn't going to resign due to Rodgers, get him on the trading block ASAP. No way do the Packers want to resign and trade him, let his new team give him the new contract. No reason to keep him for just one season if Rodgers isn't around.

If Gute messes this up, pays Adams this years salary and then lets him walk away in Free Agency next year, I would call that the biggest blunder of his tenure.
 

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So I am reading something different about Rodgers being able to opt out.

Packers' Aaron Rodgers can't opt out unless he's developed a condition since October​


I believe the wording is that a player can't opt-out AND get the $150k stipend for the year. AR has already forfeited more than that by missing mandatory mini-camp so he's probably OK not getting that stipend.
 

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Could you imagine Tom Brady opting out if he was still in New England and wanted to leave? No way. I seriously doubt Rodgers would opt out but if he does his legacy takes a huge blow.

Brady did it the right way. He played out his contract and left.
 

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I believe the wording is that a player can't opt-out AND get the $150k stipend for the year. AR has already forfeited more than that by missing mandatory mini-camp so he's probably OK not getting that stipend.

I think one of us is reading the article wrong. ;) Maybe its me? But I read this (below) and it really doesn't sound like Rodgers could opt out of the season due to Covid and I don't know of other ways that a player can "opt out" and get money.

"opting out of the 2021 season because of reasons linked to the COVID-19 pandemic. Some observers immediately wondered if Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers could skip the campaign via this method as he continues to stay away from the Packers amid rumors and reports he does want to play another down for them.


It appears he does not have that option.

According to Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk, wording in the previously mentioned memo states that players who did not opt out last year can only do so for the 2021 season if they "developed a high-risk condition" since Oct. 1. Voluntary opt-outs get no stipend this time around, and Florio notes that Rodgers would lose $14.7 million in salary that would be shifted to 2022 if he chooses to not play this fall.
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"Voluntary opt-outs get no stipend this time around, and Florio notes that Rodgers would lose $14.7 million in salary that would be shifted to 2022 if he chooses to not play this fall."
Florio seems to have a different take on it than a few other reports. Even if Rodgers can opt out, I don't see much of an advantage for him to do so, it would just seem to shift the scenario forward another year. That of him not wanting to play for the Packers and the Packers saying "fine, sit out then." Maybe in Aaron's mind it would be one step closer to forcing a trade? IMO, it makes Rodgers look like an even bigger **** than he has up to this point.
 

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Rodgers “legacy”…. That’s so seriously tarnished right now…. Whiney little bi-otch that won a lot of regular season games
 
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