Rodgers 2024

[Heyjoe4]

What I’m seeing is Rodgers has less than ideal time to throw. He taking pressure in his face and having to compensate by running plays that get the ball out fast. While he didn’t take Sacks, the pressure lowered his per attempt to a career low 6.6 per

Rodgers didn’t run much for obvious reasons. His 22 attempts are a career low. Although his average per run is normal. 10-15 seasons ago Rodgers silently punished teams running. He ranks Top 10 in NFL history QB rushing yards.

Aaron has 10 games without an INT. He’s taking care of the ball really well. Especially considering leaning sensitive on mobility.

Rodgers Stats as a whole are most similar to 2010 where he went
28 TD 11 INT 3,922. Although his QB rating is slightly lower due to drop in per efficiency and no mobility (0 rushing TD)

Pacing in 2024 Rodgers is
27 TD 9 INT 3,912
His QB rating is slightly lower but he’s earned every penny of his $37.5M imo.

My General 45 minute evaluation says Aaron Rodgers isn’t the problem. At least statistically. I’m not getting into speculation on his impact in other areas because it’s not quantifiable.

What’s NOT Rodgers fault is this.
1. The Jets don’t have a Running game
#32 in attempts #31 in per carry.

2. The Jets OL is not good at all

3. The Jets Defense is in that Top 8-12 area in totality. Not good enough to compensate for a poor graded OL or poor Run grade.

Aside from the numbers - current and historical - Rodgers never struck me as much of a leader. In the first 10-12 years of his playing career, it was clear he had the talent to win a lot of games and carry a team - and his 4 MVPs are proof. But he didn't have the charisma of a guy like Mahomes. IMO Mahomes inspires the guys around him with his play and his willingness to play hurt when everything is on the line. Josh Allen has "it", Tua T, maybe Jalen Hurts and I'm sure I'm missing others.

Don't get me wrong, Rodgers was a phenomenal QB who could (almost) win any game he set his mind to win. He has always lacked that intangible quality most great leaders have - I don't even know the word for it - but a guy who inspires other people to play their best.

I'm not a Rodgers hater. As a Packer fan that would be impossible. He's just a strange cat who dances to music no one else can hear. At times that isolates him from his teammates, fans, and the press. It's his life and as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, he's free to live it as he wants.

 

[milani]

Aside from the numbers - current and historical - Rodgers never struck me as much of a leader. In the first 10-12 years of his playing career, it was clear he had the talent to win a lot of games and carry a team - and his 4 MVPs are proof. But he didn't have the charisma of a guy like Mahomes. IMO Mahomes inspires the guys around him with his play and his willingness to play hurt when everything is on the line. Josh Allen has "it", Tua T, maybe Jalen Hurts and I'm sure I'm missing others.

Don't get me wrong, Rodgers was a phenomenal QB who could (almost) win any game he set his mind to win. He has always lacked that intangible quality most great leaders have - I don't even know the word for it - but a guy who inspires other people to play their best.

I'm not a Rodgers hater. As a Packer fan that would be impossible. He's just a strange cat who dances to music no one else can hear. At times that isolates him from his teammates, fans, and the press. It's his life and as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, he's free to live it as he wants.

I kind of felt similar. I always believed that in 2008 even though Rodgers was destined to be another great QB he did not have quite the inspirational qualities of Brett Favre. No matter what people say about him #4 was a motivator. He lifted the players around him like a kid playing with his friends in the school yard. He would do anything for them and vice versa.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I kind of felt similar. I always believed that in 2008 even though Rodgers was destined to be another great QB he did not have quite the inspirational qualities of Brett Favre. No matter what people say about him #4 was a motivator. He lifted the players around him like a kid playing with his friends in the school yard. He would do anything for them and vice versa.

It's interesting that both guys are first-ballot HOFers and couldn't be more different. Favre did get weird at the end. But even though he played for the hated queens, it was hard to not like the guy.

Rodgers was a technician and fun to watch just for his immense talent. He got weird at the end too. Favre was fun to watch because he would do anything to win, and he took risks - too many risks, but hey, that's Favre. Rodgers was an intellectual, Favre was a good ol' boy. They're both winners.

 

[Sanguine camper]

One thing I think Favre and Rodgers did have in common was that at the end of their tenure they elevated themselves above the team and therefore needed to go. Bart Starr sure as hell never did that. Love seems very down to earth but he hasn't had the kind of success that would go to one's head. Let's all hope he has so many Super Bowl rings, it could mess with his ego.

 

[milani]

One thing I think Favre and Rodgers did have in common was that at the end of their tenure they elevated themselves above the team and therefore needed to go. Bart Starr sure as hell never did that. Love seems very down to earth but he hasn't had the kind of success that would go to one's head. Let's all hope he has so many Super Bowl rings, it could mess with his ego.

Starr had the wisdom to know and accept the fact that it was time to retire as did other teammates from his era. And the money was not so great back then.

 

[OldSchool101]

Aside from the numbers - current and historical - Rodgers never struck me as much of a leader. In the first 10-12 years of his playing career, it was clear he had the talent to win a lot of games and carry a team - and his 4 MVPs are proof. But he didn't have the charisma of a guy like Mahomes. IMO Mahomes inspires the guys around him with his play and his willingness to play hurt when everything is on the line. Josh Allen has "it", Tua T, maybe Jalen Hurts and I'm sure I'm missing others.

Don't get me wrong, Rodgers was a phenomenal QB who could (almost) win any game he set his mind to win. He has always lacked that intangible quality most great leaders have - I don't even know the word for it - but a guy who inspires other people to play their best.

I'm not a Rodgers hater. As a Packer fan that would be impossible. He's just a strange cat who dances to music no one else can hear. At times that isolates him from his teammates, fans, and the press. It's his life and as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, he's free to live it as he wants.

I 200% agree. I think he’s a little whack, but I see another side that’s pretty cool. In his documentary he gives insight to his Family and Brother and it just seems like that family was missing a nut or washer there somewhere. I think that Achilles really humbled him.

 

[Thirteen Below]

What I noticed the few times I've seen him play, and going back to at least his last year in GB, is that he just can't get outside the pocket like he used to. He was great outside the pocket. That's a mobility problem and certainly contributed to his achilles injury.

I've watched almost every Jets game this year, and the first few games I cringed when I saw him standing in there play after play while the pocket completely disintegrates. It's just incredible how many times I think he's going to get utterly destroyed, but his pocket awareness is just incredible - where almost any other quarterback would be having a panic attack, he somehow knows exactly (right down to the last millisecond) how long he has to deliver the football. It's like he's completely oblivious to the 4 or 5 rushers who are barely arm's length away from him.

I did see him make some very Rodgers-esque throws, throws that no one else can make. They don't seem to be happening as often.

He still has that skill, and that's why I watch all of his games. It's the same reason I tried to watch every game Favre ever played - I knew that when he was gone, I'd never see anyone play the game that way again. And I know today that Rodgers only has maybe 2 more seasons left in him, and once he's gone, I'll never see anyone throw some of those passes again as long as I live. I honestly think he was the best pure passer I ever saw in my life.

And like you, I'm not seeing them asfrequently as we used to. He'll make 3 or 4 extraordinary throws in a row, and then float one, or overthrow or underthrow his man. It seems harder for him now to throw enough good balls in a row to sustain a long drive.

Rodgers just doesn't throw enough deep passes in the middle of the field. Either its short stuff with rhe Jets or low percentage deep routes on the sideline.

I don't think he has the time to let deeper routes develop, or the mobility to buy time. He still seems to have a lot of arm strength, but some of his longer passes seem to float a little, which rarely used to happen. His deeper sideline passes don't seem to have the same zip we're used to.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I've watched almost every Jets game this year, and the first few games I cringed when I saw him standing in there play after play while the pocket completely disintegrates. It's just incredible how many times I think he's going to get utterly destroyed, but his pocket awareness is just incredible - where almost any other quarterback would be having a panic attack, he somehow knows exactly (right down to the last millisecond) how long he has to deliver the football. It's like he's completely oblivious to the 4 or 5 rushers who are barely arm's length away from him.




He still has that skill, and that's why I watch all of his games. It's the same reason I tried to watch every game Favre ever played - I knew that when he was gone, I'd never see anyone play the game that way again. And I know today that Rodgers only has maybe 2 more seasons left in him, and once he's gone, I'll never see anyone throw some of those passes again as long as I live. I honestly think he was the best pure passer I ever saw in my life.

And like you, I'm not seeing them asfrequently as we used to. He'll make 3 or 4 extraordinary throws in a row, and then float one, or overthrow or underthrow his man. It seems harder for him now to throw enough good balls in a row to sustain a long drive.



I don't think he has the time to let deeper routes develop, or the mobility to buy time. He still seems to have a lot of arm strength, but some of his longer passes seem to float a little, which rarely used to happen. His deeper sideline passes don't seem to have the same zip we're used to.

He was, and from your observations still is, incredible in the pocket - whether it's staying there and delivering in the face of a blitz, or getting outside and still being able to throw anywhere on the field. His arm is fading but hey, he's 40, it happens.

The one thing Love still lacks - awareness of down and distance, time on the clock, the score, time left before the 2 minute warning, time left before the 1H ends, time before the game ends - Rodgers just always knew where he was and what his options were, and mostly picked the best option. Love isn't Rodgers, no one is, and Love is much more willing to take risks. As he develops better awareness he'll become an elite QB in the league.

 

[Heyjoe4]

One thing I think Favre and Rodgers did have in common was that at the end of their tenure they elevated themselves above the team and therefore needed to go. Bart Starr sure as hell never did that. Love seems very down to earth but he hasn't had the kind of success that would go to one's head. Let's all hope he has so many Super Bowl rings, it could mess with his ego.

That's spot on. Favre, for all his "aw shucks" attitude became a diva at the end, as did Rodgers. Maybe it's the money that they made. Money makes people change, and I mean a lot of money.

In Starr's day the relative pay was lower, the NFL wasn't the powerhouse it is now. And I doubt that Starr would have been fazed by it anyway. He was an incredibly good football player and a better human being.

 

[weeds]

In my opinion, there are a very good number of excellent posts in this thread. Just sayin'

 

[Heyjoe4]

In my opinion, there are a very good number of excellent posts in this thread. Just sayin'

And Merry Christmas to you weeds. Yeah this is a good thread. People sharing opinions/observations that are helpful.

 

[Firethorn1001]

Gotta believe that they are going to do everything in their power to make sure Adams gets the 500th TD catch given he caught 200 and 400. I googled who got 100 and 300 and it was James Jones and Ty Montgomery for 100 and 300

 

[Heyjoe4]

Gotta believe that they are going to do everything in their power to make sure Adams gets the 500th TD catch given he caught 200 and 400. I googled who got 100 and 300 and it was James Jones and Ty Montgomery for 100 and 300

Is that the same Ty Montgomery who ran back a kickoff when he was told to stay in the end zone? If that's him, I never would have put him at 300 TD catches, although I think he did settle down once the Packers traded him (to the Ravens maybe?). Anyway, thanks for the info Fire.

 

[Half Empty]

Is that the same Ty Montgomery who ran back a kickoff when he was told to stay in the end zone? If that's him, I never would have put him at 300 TD catches, although I think he did settle down once the Packers traded him (to the Ravens maybe?). Anyway, thanks for the info Fire.

After the Pack, it was a year with the Ravens, one with NO, two with the Jets and two with NE.

 

[Heyjoe4]

After the Pack, it was a year with the Ravens, one with NO, two with the Jets and two with NE.

Wow, thanks for the info HE. I didn't know he had been so many places. He was a talented guy, playing WR and RB - and returner. He did have an attitude problem when he was in GB. Maybe that's why he never took with one team.