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<blockquote data-quote="Dantés" data-source="post: 876852" data-attributes="member: 12283"><p>If a player does little or nothing in year one, the odds that they will be a good player in the future go down. If a player does little or nothing in year one AND two, the odds that they will be a good player in the future go down even further. </p><p></p><p>But that does not change the fact that most of the in-house improvement that any team can expect is from players in their 2nd/3rd seasons, and NOT rookies. The two realities are not mutually exclusive. And I was really careful to say that the 2nd/3rd year players of the Packers are not at all guaranteed to improve and make a positive impact. IIRC, I even said that few or none of them might. But apparently that didn't stop you from disagreeing with what I wasn't saying.</p><p></p><p>Which has been your theme lately. You can say "utter nonsense" all you like. It's just funny that rather than interact with what I say (which is surely difficult for you-- I understand), you take it in a different direction to correct or refute something that isn't my point. </p><p></p><p>Case in point-- I've advocated constantly for <em>waiting </em>before judging Gutekunst's moves, good or bad. How stupid does someone have to be to argue that we should look at them "objectively?" We're talking about players who haven't done anything yet. How exactly are we supposed to be "objective" about judging the abilities of players who haven't played? I've explained what I think the rationale behind them might be, and how the players might fit in a larger approach. I have never (literally never) said that Gutekunst can't make a mistake, hasn't made a mistake, or even is definitively good GM. </p><p></p><p>Just one more example of you skewering a straw man opponent. One of these days you should try disagreeing with one of my actual points.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dantés, post: 876852, member: 12283"] If a player does little or nothing in year one, the odds that they will be a good player in the future go down. If a player does little or nothing in year one AND two, the odds that they will be a good player in the future go down even further. But that does not change the fact that most of the in-house improvement that any team can expect is from players in their 2nd/3rd seasons, and NOT rookies. The two realities are not mutually exclusive. And I was really careful to say that the 2nd/3rd year players of the Packers are not at all guaranteed to improve and make a positive impact. IIRC, I even said that few or none of them might. But apparently that didn't stop you from disagreeing with what I wasn't saying. Which has been your theme lately. You can say "utter nonsense" all you like. It's just funny that rather than interact with what I say (which is surely difficult for you-- I understand), you take it in a different direction to correct or refute something that isn't my point. Case in point-- I've advocated constantly for [I]waiting [/I]before judging Gutekunst's moves, good or bad. How stupid does someone have to be to argue that we should look at them "objectively?" We're talking about players who haven't done anything yet. How exactly are we supposed to be "objective" about judging the abilities of players who haven't played? I've explained what I think the rationale behind them might be, and how the players might fit in a larger approach. I have never (literally never) said that Gutekunst can't make a mistake, hasn't made a mistake, or even is definitively good GM. Just one more example of you skewering a straw man opponent. One of these days you should try disagreeing with one of my actual points. [/QUOTE]
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