Packers ink Peppers

[brandon2348]

I heard Herm Edwards say Peppers played about 800 snaps last season and he expects that number to be cut about in half. He expects him to be a pass rushing specialist. My guess is he'll play more than that but even if he's standing up I don't expect him to be in coverage much at all. His forte is rushing the passer. Fewer snaps should certainly help his productivity. First, calling Capers names reflects more on you than it does on him. Second, how in hell can you accuse Capers of misusing a player he hasn’t coached? Capers looked a lot smarter in 2009 and 2010 than he has since; why do you suppose that is?

Capers has had to switch things up due to injuries too. Datone Jones was standing up at linebacker in Niners game and Jarret Bush was playing nickle in that game. I am actually getting excited to see what Capers can do this year.

 

[98Redbird]

Poor TT. Guy just cannot win.

I've got an opinion but I'm keeping my mouth shut because I was one of the guys who was irritated with his disdain for free agency.

 

[longtimefan]

That rule refers to a league wide average and the NFL would have to pay the rest if teams don't use the required cap space.

I see that now.

Next paragraph it says each team has a 89% salary floor. What is that?

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I see that now.

Next paragraph it says each team has a 89% salary floor. What is that?

I'll use that as my signature from now on, as I have posted that at least ten times, though nobody seems to get it.

That rule refers to the percentage a team has to be spend in cash of the total amount of the cap overa four year span (2013-16).

 

[Einstein McFly]

This signing is a success if:
--Peppers comes to play in big games the way he's played against the Packers the last few years (something like six sacks in five games with a pic). We have to expect that against a crappy team when we're ahead he's going to disappear. But against the 9ers in a playoff game, he may just be a difference maker who either makes great plays or pressures the offense to the point where others get opportunities. This is really the most important one.
--Peppers is willing to take on the double teams and hold the point against the run. The guy is listed at 283, which is only six less than J.J. Watt, and with his athleticism I suspect he could play in any defense he wanted. If Peppers can play in the base and not be a huge drop off against the run then we might really be in for a treat. With his height and jumping ability, he could really lock things down as a 3-4 end.
--He's willing to learn how to drop into coverage to allow zone blitzes from the other side.

This signing will fail if:
--Peppers just isn't ready to hang 'em up yet and wanted another paycheck.
--If Jones or Boyd or Worthy outplays him for the spot in base or nickle and he gets fewer and fewer snaps as the year goes on.

 

[HardRightEdge]

With the signing of Raji and Peppers, my head-scratching over the "safety, safety, safety, ILB, ILB, ILB" draft talk in these pages, largely to the exclusion of D-Line, is now vindicated, but not quite in the way I expected. These one year rent-a-player deals with Raji and Peppers are quite uncharacteristic for Mr. Thompson, to say the least.

Peppers....

1. I harken back to the Dallas game where it was an undistinguished 2nd year 2nd. stringer, Mr. Lattimore, who reportedly gave a stirring half time locker room speech, followed by the come-from-behind victory.

2. Regardless of diminished skills, Mr. Peppers will never be charged with a less than high-revving motor, an issue with several of our defensive players.

This is a leadership/locker room/chemistry thing as much as a performance thing.

Given this is a one year rent-a-player deal (to go with the Raji one-year-and-done affair) and given all of Peppers' guarantee is all in the first year, I think I'm OK with it, even if it is not quite the creative destruction one might have desired.

For 2015, we'll have the option to recapture a ton of cap room (Williams, Raji, Peppers) at which point Nelson, Cobb and Bulaga can be taken care of. In the mean time, expect the draft to still be defense-heavy...including at least one big man...in anticipation of losing the aforementioned one-and-doners.

 

[HardRightEdge]

I'll use that as my signature from now on, as I have posted that at least ten times, though nobody seems to get it.

That rule refers to the percentage a team has to be spend in cash of the total amount of the cap overa four year span (2013-16).

I hear you. I have a new signature line myself.

 

[HardRightEdge]

I assume situational pass rusher. Well see. Should be interesting how they use him.

I think that's probably right. It begs the question, what happened to that Perry-as-elephant-hand-in-the-dirt thing? Seems to me Peppers has that job now. Also, they might try Peppers at 3-tech in nickel to see what he can do there.

 

[ivo610]

I think that's probably right. It begs the question, what happened to that Perry-as-elephant-hand-in-the-dirt thing? Seems to me Peppers has that job now. Also, they might try Peppers at 3-tech in nickel to see what he can do there.

He reunites with his coach he had in Carolina for 6 yrs so that should really implementing him into the defense. Knows what he can n can't do.

Might be the biggest story of training camp, what will the defense look like?

 

[HardRightEdge]

Agreed. It's a short term deal so I don't really mind, but better players were a better fit and other positions needed more attention.

I keep wondering if he goes TE in the draft

I don't think TE is valued sufficiently in this offense, particularly with Rodgers at the helm, to spend the #1 pick there. It would have to be a very special player, with both outstanding blocking and pass catching skills, and fast enough to split out a la Finley. I doubt that guy will be on the board.

At this stage, I would think D-Line would be at the top of the list given (1) there's little guarantee Raji or Peppers will be back for another go-round and (2) we have no backup big man behind Raji.

CB is a possibility if the right guy is there given Williams is in his last year, Heyward is a slot corner, Hyde is a slot corner going to safety, and House has been erratic.

WR is a possibility. They may anticipate difficulties in signing both Nelson and Cobb. Nelson being the older of the two and Cobb not yet having demonstrated ability outside the slot, a true wideout might be on the want list.

The draft is, at a minimum, a 2-year-forward looking proposition.

 

[ivo610]

I don't think TE is valued sufficiently in this offense, particularly with Rodgers at the helm, to spend the #1 pick there. It would have to be a very special player, with both outstanding drawer blocking and pass catching skills. I doubt that guy will be on the board.

At this stage, I would think D-Line would be at the top of the list given (1) there's little guarantee Raji or Peppers will be back for another go-round and (2) we have no backup big man behind Raji.

CB is a possibility if the right guy is there given Williams is in his last year, Heyward is a slot corner, Hyde is a slot corner going to safety, and House has been erratic.

WR is a possibility. They may anticipate difficulties in signing both Nelson and Cobb. Nelson being the older of the two and Cobb not yet having demonstrated ability outside the slot, a true wideout might be on the want list.

I think he has lots of options and that excited me. I would really love a good corner.

 

[ExpatPacker]

I don't think TE is valued sufficiently in this offense, particularly with Rodgers at the helm, to spend the #1 pick there. It would have to be a very special player, with both outstanding blocking and pass catching skills, and fast enough to split out a la Finley. I doubt that guy will be on the board.

At this stage, I would think D-Line would be at the top of the list given (1) there's little guarantee Raji or Peppers will be back for another go-round and (2) we have no backup big man behind Raji.

CB is a possibility if the right guy is there given Williams is in his last year, Heyward is a slot corner, Hyde is a slot corner going to safety, and House has been erratic.

WR is a possibility. They may anticipate difficulties in signing both Nelson and Cobb. Nelson being the older of the two and Cobb not yet having demonstrated ability outside the slot, a true wideout might be on the want list.

The draft is, at a minimum, a 2-year-forward looking proposition.

FS or ILB? Don't we need them as much or more than a DL? If a Mosley or Clinton-Dix or Pryor is there at #21, I'd be confused if the Packers passed on them for, say, Hageman. Unless the staff feels strongly that Hageman is a potential star.

 

[longtimefan]

I'll use that as my signature from now on, as I have posted that at least ten times, though nobody seems to get it.

That rule refers to the percentage a team has to be spend in cash of the total amount of the cap overa four year span (2013-16).

Sorry for not understanding it

Dont ever break rule around here or ill have to change my sig

 

[brandon2348]

FS or ILB? Don't we need them as much or more than a DL? If a Mosley or Clinton-Dix or Pryor is there at #21, I'd be confused if the Packers passed on them for, say, Hageman. Unless the staff feels strongly that Hageman is a potential star.

I think you take who is there. I like either Pryor or Ha Ha in first and then pick up Chris Borland.

 

[ExpatPacker]

I think you take who is there. I like either Pryor or Ha Ha in first and then pick up Chris Borland.

My dream draft for rounds 1-3 would be Clinton-Dix or Pryor in round 1, Kyle van Noy in round 2 and Chris Borland in round 3.

 

[ivo610]

Seriously... Where the F is rodell? Lol

 

[brandon2348]

My dream draft for rounds 1-3 would be Clinton-Dix or Pryor in round 1, Kyle van Noy in round 2 and Chris Borland in round 3.

That would be sooooooo sweeet.

 

[TJV]

I will be surprised if Peppers isn't the designated pass rusher. And what a difference to have one who has proven he can actually do it.

The good news at safety is we know Jennings won't be playing there. I hope Hyde goes to safety full time along with a rookie drafted in the first three rounds. While I'm hoping, I hope Richardson takes a huge step forward because he certainly has the "physicals". But how anyone who watched the team last year and doesn't think safety is a need for this team is beyond me.

 

[HardRightEdge]

FS or ILB? Don't we need them as much or more than a DL?

Ask yourself this question: Who on this roster plays D-Line and weighs over 300 lbs.? Raji, Boyd, that's it.

Boyd is untested and looks more like a 5-tech D-End. Raji is on a one year rent-a-player deal.

This is a still a 3-4 defense, or so we're told.

You take Nix if he's there.

I'd put ILB at the #2 priority, however Hawk looks set for the time being and McCarthy has recently touted Barrington, something he doesn't do a lot with unproven players. I think they'll look lower than first round for a guy to compete/provide depth. Lattimore will likely be back as well, but I think he's valued more as a special teams/backup guy.

Burnett is a fixture at safety at least for 2014...his contract makes it so. Hyde is going to safety...I like his prospects for being a player there. Again, I see us going lower than the first round for competition/backup.

 

[Chicocheese]

There is NO WAY that Peppers is going to asked to play at OLB. We picked up a DE so Raji can be NT. Also, having Peppers move to OLB this late in his career would be a TERRIBLE move.

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

WHAT!!!!!!!! Peppers is an absolute historical monster!!! I just found out and the first thing that popped into my head was Reggie White bringing the glory back to GB... This is the closest thing to Reggie that we ever could have asked for... You can bet your rear Peppers wants a ring before he's done. Like reggie. And Peppers SURELY has huge respect for the green and gold. If he could give us one hall of fame final burst, like the great ones always do. It will be what puts our defense over the top IMO... Love it!. Though I would never admit it til today. lol

 

[brandon2348]

I will be surprised if Peppers isn't the designated pass rusher. And what a difference to have one who has proven he can actually do it.

The good news at safety is we know Jennings won't be playing there. I hope Hyde goes to safety full time along with a rookie drafted in the first three rounds. While I'm hoping, I hope Richardson takes a huge step forward because he certainly has the "physicals". But how anyone who watched the team last year and doesn't think safety is a need for this team is beyond me.

They could still pick up a guy like Chris Clemons to add help at as safety as well.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

There is NO WAY that Peppers is going to asked to play at OLB. We picked up a DE so Raji can be NT. Also, having Peppers move to OLB this late in his career would be a TERRIBLE move.

One of the reasons that Peppers cited when he left Carolina was that he wanted to play in a 3-4. Also, according to PFF, our OLBs rushed the passer on 83% of their snaps, so it's not like he'll be asked to cover guys a whole lot. I could see him playing OLB on early downs and then shifting to end on passing downs.

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[brandon2348]

There is NO WAY that Peppers is going to asked to play at OLB. We picked up a DE so Raji can be NT. Also, having Peppers move to OLB this late in his career would be a TERRIBLE move.

exactly, Peppers isn't going to be standing up

 

[brandon2348]

3 and 7 "Claymaker, Peppers, Daniels, Perry" Go get em. lol