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Packers:
1.23-- M. Golden, WR, UT
2.54-- A. Belton, OL, NCSU
3.87-- S. Williams, WR, TCU
4.124-- B. Sorrell, DE, UT
5.159-- C. Oliver, DPR, OKST
6.198-- W. Brinson, DT, UGA
7.237-- M. Robinson, CB, TUL
7.250-- J. Williams, OL, CIN
Overall: I don't think this draft was a homerun, but I am pretty happy with the results. They need to do more to shore up the depth at DT and CB, but that's not an insurmountable challenge, given that starters are in place. They needed speed on offense and they got that in spades. They also did a good job assuring that they will be able to better handle injuries along the offensive line. The pass rush has some more juice in the room as well.
Bears:
1.10-- C. Loveland, TE, MICH
2.39-- L. Burden, WR, MIZZ
2.56-- O. Trapilo, OT, BC
2.62-- S. Turner, DT, SC
4.132-- R. Hyppolite, LB, MAR
5.148-- Z. Frazier, CB, UTSA
5.195-- L. Newman, OL, MSU
7.233-- K. Monangai, RB, RUT
Overall: I love this class for the Bears. Which is to say, it was a bad draft. Their best pick was Shemar Turner at #62-- good interior pass rusher, good value, good pick. Other than that, I'm not down with any of this. Loveland is a great TE prospect, but taking a TE in the top 10 is incredibly stupid. The value is bad and the track record is a disaster-- Brock Bowers is fresh in people's minds, but I would argue that you have to go back to 2013 to find the last TE who paid off for the team that drafted him (Tyler Eifert). Luther Burden is, on film, a gadget who, by all accounts, lacks the work ethic to develop. Trapilo is over 6'8" at tackle, which I generally consider to be a bad bet. The Bears had every opportunity to upgrade at RB and didn't. They also remain shallow at DE, safety, and along the iOL.
Vikings:
1.24-- D. Jackson, OL, OSU
3.102-- T. Felton, WR, MAR
5.139-- T. Ingram-Dawkins, DL, UGA
6.201-- K. King, LB, PSU
6.202-- G. Bartholomew, TE, PITT
Overall: This class is going to be a big nothingburger for Minny. I don't mind the player at 24-- a good iOL starter with some OT versatility; that's fine. But I doubt anyone else in the class makes a real impact for them in 2025 and perhaps at any point. The real reason this was a terrible draft is that they didn't have any draft capital and their foolish GM decided he would rather stick and pick a solid guard than drop down and recoup picks. This is what happens when you trade up twice in round one to land two players who don't provide much real impact to your roster.
Lions:
1.28-- T. Williams, DT, OSU
2.57-- T. Ratledge, G, UGA
3.70-- I. TeSlaa, WR, ARK
5.171-- M. Frazier, OL, LSU
6.196-- A. Hassenein, DE, BSU
7.230-- D. Jackson, S, UGA
7.244-- D. Lovett, WR, UGA
Overall: This class is a doubling down on what DET is already good at while ignoring their weaknesses. The Lions add Williams, a good run-stuffer, to a DT room that was already pretty good. They added two guards to compete with Christian Mahogany. They added two slot weapons to a team with Amon-Ra St. Brown. Meanwhile, they really need pass rush and better boundary wide receivers and they passed entirely.
But generally, the Lions are high on their own success. They swapped a 4th for a 7th to move up 3 spots for a guard. They traded two future 3rd round picks to move from 102 to 70 and take a big slot who had 900 yards and 5 TD's in two years of playing D-1 football. They also traded extra capital to move up to get Frazier. When you trade up constantly, it comes back to bite you. Because every team has classes that fail to develop, and all that future capital you blow on trade ups is what can dig you out of the hole.
Overall, I think Detroit has bad process and I don't think this class is going to have any real impact on making them a stronger football team.
The bottom line is that the Packers had the best draft in the division by a strong margin. The love affair with the Bears' offseason is going to continue, but it won't materialize on the field.
Packers:
1.23-- M. Golden, WR, UT
2.54-- A. Belton, OL, NCSU
3.87-- S. Williams, WR, TCU
4.124-- B. Sorrell, DE, UT
5.159-- C. Oliver, DPR, OKST
6.198-- W. Brinson, DT, UGA
7.237-- M. Robinson, CB, TUL
7.250-- J. Williams, OL, CIN
Overall: I don't think this draft was a homerun, but I am pretty happy with the results. They need to do more to shore up the depth at DT and CB, but that's not an insurmountable challenge, given that starters are in place. They needed speed on offense and they got that in spades. They also did a good job assuring that they will be able to better handle injuries along the offensive line. The pass rush has some more juice in the room as well.
Bears:
1.10-- C. Loveland, TE, MICH
2.39-- L. Burden, WR, MIZZ
2.56-- O. Trapilo, OT, BC
2.62-- S. Turner, DT, SC
4.132-- R. Hyppolite, LB, MAR
5.148-- Z. Frazier, CB, UTSA
5.195-- L. Newman, OL, MSU
7.233-- K. Monangai, RB, RUT
Overall: I love this class for the Bears. Which is to say, it was a bad draft. Their best pick was Shemar Turner at #62-- good interior pass rusher, good value, good pick. Other than that, I'm not down with any of this. Loveland is a great TE prospect, but taking a TE in the top 10 is incredibly stupid. The value is bad and the track record is a disaster-- Brock Bowers is fresh in people's minds, but I would argue that you have to go back to 2013 to find the last TE who paid off for the team that drafted him (Tyler Eifert). Luther Burden is, on film, a gadget who, by all accounts, lacks the work ethic to develop. Trapilo is over 6'8" at tackle, which I generally consider to be a bad bet. The Bears had every opportunity to upgrade at RB and didn't. They also remain shallow at DE, safety, and along the iOL.
Vikings:
1.24-- D. Jackson, OL, OSU
3.102-- T. Felton, WR, MAR
5.139-- T. Ingram-Dawkins, DL, UGA
6.201-- K. King, LB, PSU
6.202-- G. Bartholomew, TE, PITT
Overall: This class is going to be a big nothingburger for Minny. I don't mind the player at 24-- a good iOL starter with some OT versatility; that's fine. But I doubt anyone else in the class makes a real impact for them in 2025 and perhaps at any point. The real reason this was a terrible draft is that they didn't have any draft capital and their foolish GM decided he would rather stick and pick a solid guard than drop down and recoup picks. This is what happens when you trade up twice in round one to land two players who don't provide much real impact to your roster.
Lions:
1.28-- T. Williams, DT, OSU
2.57-- T. Ratledge, G, UGA
3.70-- I. TeSlaa, WR, ARK
5.171-- M. Frazier, OL, LSU
6.196-- A. Hassenein, DE, BSU
7.230-- D. Jackson, S, UGA
7.244-- D. Lovett, WR, UGA
Overall: This class is a doubling down on what DET is already good at while ignoring their weaknesses. The Lions add Williams, a good run-stuffer, to a DT room that was already pretty good. They added two guards to compete with Christian Mahogany. They added two slot weapons to a team with Amon-Ra St. Brown. Meanwhile, they really need pass rush and better boundary wide receivers and they passed entirely.
But generally, the Lions are high on their own success. They swapped a 4th for a 7th to move up 3 spots for a guard. They traded two future 3rd round picks to move from 102 to 70 and take a big slot who had 900 yards and 5 TD's in two years of playing D-1 football. They also traded extra capital to move up to get Frazier. When you trade up constantly, it comes back to bite you. Because every team has classes that fail to develop, and all that future capital you blow on trade ups is what can dig you out of the hole.
Overall, I think Detroit has bad process and I don't think this class is going to have any real impact on making them a stronger football team.
The bottom line is that the Packers had the best draft in the division by a strong margin. The love affair with the Bears' offseason is going to continue, but it won't materialize on the field.