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I wasn't going to do such a mock, one where I don't try to think as much as Gute for a predictive but a "Tyni is GM approach" type...but here we are.

I'll likely only do one more mock, because I think I enjoy just discussing prospects and such far more...speaking of which Jah Joyner film continues to have me higher on that Edge out of Minnesota than more...a name that GB fans should know.

Anyways, here we go. Few assumptions for this draft...GB and Jaire do nothing and he is on the team still going into the draft and I assume will be in GB for 2025, that and Hobbs coming on plus Nixon focusing solely on trying to be an outside corner in addition to Valentine still IMO being our CB2 behind Jaire I'm not petrified of the CB room atm.

1.23 - GREEN BAY TRADES BACK...KC IS TRYING TO PUSH BACK AFTER THE SB LOSS and knowing their biggest need is OL, they want to trade up to get that help.
Green Bay receives 1.31 / 3.95 / 2026 R4 - KC gets 1.23 *pundits think GB got a fair return but that KC didn't have to give up as much as many would have thought. However, with Harmon, Nolen, Alexander, Williams for iDLs on the board still and edges in Nic Scourton, Landon Jackson and even Pearce on the board I like how my personal board looks and see more value in trade back than drafting someone. If I had stayed I'll be honest my pick is Nolen as I think his ceiling as a player is HIGHER than Harmon....Pearce I keep hearing more and more character concerns and I just don't think that fits in GB (he's incredibly gifted though)

1.31 - Nolen and Pearce go off the board but Harmon is still out there so I rush to make the call and bring Derrick Harmon iDL from Oregon to Green Bay. He's just an explosive multi-skilled prospect with MASSIVE upside but immediate impact. Length for days, massive hands - rarely does a blocker get better leverage against him....has pass rush pressure skills that will keep him on the field also on third down if Hafley would want.

2.54 - Packer fans rejoice collectively and hope that the second round WR run GB is on is going to keep trucking along with Utah State's Jalen Royals. I've gushed about Royals enough and yes I have him in my rankings at 44 which might even be tick low at the time of typing this given how good and well rounded of a WR I think he is. He has the traits and shows the promise of being everything Watson is for us, but perhaps just a little less physical and maybe a little slower...but this dude can scoot, route tree is solid for a prospect and he doesn't shy away from contact. Jennings then Nelson then Cobb then Adams then Watson then Reed then Royals???

2.61 - This pick will shock some...I immediately sacrifice some draft capital to double down on offensive firepower to help Love.....by sending 3.87 / 6.198 / 2026 3rd to Washington for 2.61 / 7.245. This is a guy I think when about 2027 rolls around many will be pointing to him as a massive steal in the draft, and a guy positionally that is on his way to being one of the Top10 at his position, and maybe even more. The crazy thing is I actually say that now about who will be his teammate here in Green Bay. This is a guy that is that term we hear often "raw" to many but I see a guy that finally when a transfer addition happened was able to be utilized to his fullest potential and that is a versatile and dual threat tight end in the offense. He is skilled in the slot or inline, very willing blocker who comes in better than Musgrave even is now at blocking but will need to improve, but his juice and ability to read and find soft spots when facing zone coverages is special - MASSIVE senior bowl stand out as well and immediately provides that TE2 inline role which Musgrave IMO just isn't built for and assures that we don't need to resign both Musgrave and Kraft....I've also said many times one way to improve our passing attack for the MLF system is pump athletic and good TEs. One drop his entire career - Elijah Arroyo TE from Miami is coming to Green Bay and while fans will bemoan and be mad...I'm trusting my gut and I feel his value and what he might become is higher than anyone else.

3.95 - Pass rush incoming. A guy I haven't really touched on a lot, but really like in Ashton Gillotte from Louisville is the guy I pick. 83 total pressures over the last two seasons, 14 sacks and has experienced success both over and outside the tackle. An explosive twitchy guy with solid size and strength to go with it. He didn't do any agility or speed testing at combine but his fluidity in some of the drills was clear....his strength though against the run and the fact Louisville would deploy him in a 3 tech at times would likely get Hafley excited with experimenting with him. Either way fourth pick I had some much needed pass rush into the edge room.

4.124 - Everyone loved what Edgerrin Cooper could do last year...as the game slowed down and he showed digestion of the defense and got more snaps it was clear this missile could play. I would love to see us have another athletic diverse option incase Quay returns to his 2023 style more so OR also provide a potential out to having to work something out with Quay in lieu of a fifth year option...Danny Stutsman LB out of Oklahoma is a crazy athlete who was all over the field in his college career. Just slightly less traitsy than Cooper was, arms are touch over 32...I still think Danny could be one of the better steals off ball wise in the middle of the draft. Some insurance for this year but potentially a starter alongside Cooper into the future this pick screamed at me and I had to answer.

5.159 - The pressure of needing a starter at CB somewhat lessoned with everything....I still kept looking at my board and pondering a CB essentially ever since the second round....and finally the itch to grab a prospect I'm VERY high on (he's even appeared in my Top100 before this year and likely may wash out just outside it) and that is Mac McWilliams from UCF. A guy that meets the threshold of 190 pounds but is slightly shorter than we normally take at 5'10' but he has exceptional speed and is STICKY in coverage. Rolls his hips over extremely fast and is quick to close. A fifth round coin toss type guy that I think worst case is your CB4 or so and maybe turns into more has immense value. Yes if you just look up stuff on him, he is grossly undervalued IMO in many rankings you'll see - but I'm sticking to my board.

7.237 - Time to take a swing at the OLine in the time frame which is one of my favorites. Gerard Christian-Lichtenhan from Oregon State is an oober experienced starting LT and one I've written about elsewhere. He's a little taller than what we typically go towards, but his 6'8' 328 pound frame doesn't appear strained in movement skills or abilty to explode out of his stance. His 36 inch arms provide an incredible advantage over would be rushers.

7.245 - The 7th picked up in the Washington trade turns into another late Day 3 tackle prospect I really like and that is Esa Pole from Washington State. Now Esa is more the GB type in that 6'5' 323lb build. 33.625 arms and a RAS of 7.30...his 3 cone isn't great though and I could see him really feasting if told to focus on a guard position at the next level. Gave up only 9 pressures last year, which included 0 sacks out of 861 snaps. His pass blocking technique and footwork is very good...needs some strength added for leveraging attack/run blocking but I love Esa as a late round zero risk addition.

7.250 - Making it a trifecta along the OL given that we are pretty set, can always add a better veteran if we leave camp not feeling good about Monk or any of these guys being capable in reserve...but Joe Huber from Wisconsin gets the pick here. Huber has started at RT during his time at Cinci, then switched to LG in 2023, then primarily a RG in 2024 except some needed snaps even at Center. He is the prototypical body structure for GB 6'5' 310lbs solid guard length arms at 32.25 but hasn't posted any agility testing yet. However, I love his film and value on Day3 late.

So in summary:

1st - Derrick Harmon iDL
2nd - Jalen Royals WR & Elijah Arroyo TE
3rd - Ashton Gillotte EDGE
4th - Danny Stutsman LB
5th - Mac McWilliams CB
7th - Gerard Christian-Lichtenhan OT, Esa Pole OT/OG, Joe Huber iOL
 
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Think we need to get a CB by the end of day 2. But can't say I dislike any of the picks. Harmon i think will go 20-25 area so at 30 the trade back was a great deal.

I really don't think a TE is likely, but you may be right about having an impact on our offense. I'm hoping that Musgrave returns to rookie form that the injury slowed his progress and last year was an aberration.
 
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Think we need to get a CB by the end of day 2. But can't say I dislike any of the picks. Harmon i think will go 20-25 area so at 30 the trade back was a great deal.

I really don't think a TE is likely, but you may be right about having an impact on our offense. I'm hoping that Musgrave returns to rookie form that the injury slowed his progress and last year was an aberration.

Arroyo would for sure be a luxury pick, but would be an example if I was Gute of going and getting one of your guys you see value is becoming too good to look away essentially.
 
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Think we need to get a CB by the end of day 2. But can't say I dislike any of the picks. Harmon i think will go 20-25 area so at 30 the trade back was a great deal.

I really don't think a TE is likely, but you may be right about having an impact on our offense. I'm hoping that Musgrave returns to rookie form that the injury slowed his progress and last year was an aberration.

Also...CB class is weak this draft. I truthfully struggle with it as there are guys I like but not love at nearly any point of the draft. Jahdae and Will Johnson are the only two guys I'm head over heels confident in not having many unknowns....Az is a guy I really could see us target but again this mock was under the impressing that Jaire wasn't going anywhere which does make a difference....albeit perhaps of course not the same as a healthy Jaire.
 

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Also...CB class is weak this draft. I truthfully struggle with it as there are guys I like but not love at nearly any point of the draft. Jahdae and Will Johnson are the only two guys I'm head over heels confident in not having many unknowns....Az is a guy I really could see us target but again this mock was under the impressing that Jaire wasn't going anywhere which does make a difference....albeit perhaps of course not the same as a healthy Jaire.
I would target our 2nd round pick on one of these guys: Amos, Thomas, Hairston, Porter, or Alexander. Packers are bound to like one of them. But maybe I would swing for the fence with Revel or Morrison. Both are coming off injury but could be impactful players when (if) healthy. I would have the medical staff look real close at them.
 
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I would target our 2nd round pick on one of these guys: Amos, Thomas, Hairston, Porter, or Alexander. Packers are bound to like one of them. But maybe I would swing for the fence with Revel or Morrison. Both are coming off injury but could be impactful players when (if) healthy. I would have the medical staff look real close at them.

I also think if we go CB early it isn't first round but second....I think the vast majority of Packer fans will have their heads explode if Gute picks Darien Porter due to his is a WR to CB switch guy.....CRAZY incredible body type and traits but hasn't proven much other than he is a freak!

Reval is going to be special I think, he is a wildcard given no testing and small school - he could go Day1 or second round.
 

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I wasn't going to do such a mock, one where I don't try to think as much as Gute for a predictive but a "Tyni is GM approach" type...but here we are.

I'll likely only do one more mock, because I think I enjoy just discussing prospects and such far more...speaking of which Jah Joyner film continues to have me higher on that Edge out of Minnesota than more...a name that GB fans should know.

Anyways, here we go. Few assumptions for this draft...GB and Jaire do nothing and he is on the team still going into the draft and I assume will be in GB for 2025, that and Hobbs coming on plus Nixon focusing solely on trying to be an outside corner in addition to Valentine still IMO being our CB2 behind Jaire I'm not petrified of the CB room atm.

1.23 - GREEN BAY TRADES BACK...KC IS TRYING TO PUSH BACK AFTER THE SB LOSS and knowing their biggest need is OL, they want to trade up to get that help.
Green Bay receives 1.31 / 3.95 / 2026 R4 - KC gets 1.23 *pundits think GB got a fair return but that KC didn't have to give up as much as many would have thought. However, with Harmon, Nolen, Alexander, Williams for iDLs on the board still and edges in Nic Scourton, Landon Jackson and even Pearce on the board I like how my personal board looks and see more value in trade back than drafting someone. If I had stayed I'll be honest my pick is Nolen as I think his ceiling as a player is HIGHER than Harmon....Pearce I keep hearing more and more character concerns and I just don't think that fits in GB (he's incredibly gifted though)

1.31 - Nolen and Pearce go off the board but Harmon is still out there so I rush to make the call and bring Derrick Harmon iDL from Oregon to Green Bay. He's just an explosive multi-skilled prospect with MASSIVE upside but immediate impact. Length for days, massive hands - rarely does a blocker get better leverage against him....has pass rush pressure skills that will keep him on the field also on third down if Hafley would want.

2.54 - Packer fans rejoice collectively and hope that the second round WR run GB is on is going to keep trucking along with Utah State's Jalen Royals. I've gushed about Royals enough and yes I have him in my rankings at 44 which might even be tick low at the time of typing this given how good and well rounded of a WR I think he is. He has the traits and shows the promise of being everything Watson is for us, but perhaps just a little less physical and maybe a little slower...but this dude can scoot, route tree is solid for a prospect and he doesn't shy away from contact. Jennings then Nelson then Cobb then Adams then Watson then Reed then Royals???

2.61 - This pick will shock some...I immediately sacrifice some draft capital to double down on offensive firepower to help Love.....by sending 3.87 / 6.198 / 2026 3rd to Washington for 2.61 / 7.245. This is a guy I think when about 2027 rolls around many will be pointing to him as a massive steal in the draft, and a guy positionally that is on his way to being one of the Top10 at his position, and maybe even more. The crazy thing is I actually say that now about who will be his teammate here in Green Bay. This is a guy that is that term we hear often "raw" to many but I see a guy that finally when a transfer addition happened was able to be utilized to his fullest potential and that is a versatile and dual threat tight end in the offense. He is skilled in the slot or inline, very willing blocker who comes in better than Musgrave even is now at blocking but will need to improve, but his juice and ability to read and find soft spots when facing zone coverages is special - MASSIVE senior bowl stand out as well and immediately provides that TE2 inline role which Musgrave IMO just isn't built for and assures that we don't need to resign both Musgrave and Kraft....I've also said many times one way to improve our passing attack for the MLF system is pump athletic and good TEs. One drop his entire career - Elijah Arroyo TE from Miami is coming to Green Bay and while fans will bemoan and be mad...I'm trusting my gut and I feel his value and what he might become is higher than anyone else.

3.95 - Pass rush incoming. A guy I haven't really touched on a lot, but really like in Ashton Gillotte from Louisville is the guy I pick. 83 total pressures over the last two seasons, 14 sacks and has experienced success both over and outside the tackle. An explosive twitchy guy with solid size and strength to go with it. He didn't do any agility or speed testing at combine but his fluidity in some of the drills was clear....his strength though against the run and the fact Louisville would deploy him in a 3 tech at times would likely get Hafley excited with experimenting with him. Either way fourth pick I had some much needed pass rush into the edge room.

4.124 - Everyone loved what Edgerrin Cooper could do last year...as the game slowed down and he showed digestion of the defense and got more snaps it was clear this missile could play. I would love to see us have another athletic diverse option incase Quay returns to his 2023 style more so OR also provide a potential out to having to work something out with Quay in lieu of a fifth year option...Danny Stutsman LB out of Oklahoma is a crazy athlete who was all over the field in his college career. Just slightly less traitsy than Cooper was, arms are touch over 32...I still think Danny could be one of the better steals off ball wise in the middle of the draft. Some insurance for this year but potentially a starter alongside Cooper into the future this pick screamed at me and I had to answer.

5.159 - The pressure of needing a starter at CB somewhat lessoned with everything....I still kept looking at my board and pondering a CB essentially ever since the second round....and finally the itch to grab a prospect I'm VERY high on (he's even appeared in my Top100 before this year and likely may wash out just outside it) and that is Mac McWilliams from UCF. A guy that meets the threshold of 190 pounds but is slightly shorter than we normally take at 5'10' but he has exceptional speed and is STICKY in coverage. Rolls his hips over extremely fast and is quick to close. A fifth round coin toss type guy that I think worst case is your CB4 or so and maybe turns into more has immense value. Yes if you just look up stuff on him, he is grossly undervalued IMO in many rankings you'll see - but I'm sticking to my board.

7.237 - Time to take a swing at the OLine in the time frame which is one of my favorites. Gerard Christian-Lichtenhan from Oregon State is an oober experienced starting LT and one I've written about elsewhere. He's a little taller than what we typically go towards, but his 6'8' 328 pound frame doesn't appear strained in movement skills or abilty to explode out of his stance. His 36 inch arms provide an incredible advantage over would be rushers.

7.245 - The 7th picked up in the Washington trade turns into another late Day 3 tackle prospect I really like and that is Esa Pole from Washington State. Now Esa is more the GB type in that 6'5' 323lb build. 33.625 arms and a RAS of 7.30...his 3 cone isn't great though and I could see him really feasting if told to focus on a guard position at the next level. Gave up only 9 pressures last year, which included 0 sacks out of 861 snaps. His pass blocking technique and footwork is very good...needs some strength added for leveraging attack/run blocking but I love Esa as a late round zero risk addition.

7.250 - Making it a trifecta along the OL given that we are pretty set, can always add a better veteran if we leave camp not feeling good about Monk or any of these guys being capable in reserve...but Joe Huber from Wisconsin gets the pick here. Huber has started at RT during his time at Cinci, then switched to LG in 2023, then primarily a RG in 2024 except some needed snaps even at Center. He is the prototypical body structure for GB 6'5' 310lbs solid guard length arms at 32.25 but hasn't posted any agility testing yet. However, I love his film and value on Day3 late.

So in summary:

1st - Derrick Harmon iDL
2nd - Jalen Royals WR & Elijah Arroyo TE
3rd - Ashton Gillotte EDGE
4th - Danny Stutsman LB
5th - Mac McWilliams CB
7th - Gerard Christian-Lichtenhan OT, Esa Pole OT/OG, Joe Huber iOL
One thing the Packers have been doing since signing Banks in FA, is talking to a lot of OT at Pro Days. I'm thinking OT prospects is where they spend Draft capital this year, if they draft any offensive linemen. If I remember correctly, Rhyan was working out at C and G last training camp , so that puts Jenkins, Rhyan and Monk as Center options, plus all have G experience. I feel the IOL is a pretty full room at the moment, vs guys that can play OT effectively, so they need more competition to strengthen that part of the line.
 
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One thing the Packers have been doing since signing Banks in FA, is talking to a lot of OT at Pro Days. I'm thinking OT prospects is where they spend Draft capital this year, if they draft any offensive linemen. If I remember correctly, Rhyan was working out at C and G last training camp , so that puts Jenkins, Rhyan and Monk as Center options, plus all have G experience. I feel the IOL is a pretty full room at the moment, vs guys that can play OT effectively, so they need more competition to strengthen that part of the line.

Correct on Rhyan. Trust me I'm all for the mindset of even drafting one of the top flight OTs....however I also know we have one year of having 5/6 guys that can play and start and OL is a weak link system so for one more year I was comfortable grabbing prospects late that easily could become that next Rasheed Walker.
 

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I wasn't going to do such a mock, one where I don't try to think as much as Gute for a predictive but a "Tyni is GM approach" type...but here we are.

I'll likely only do one more mock, because I think I enjoy just discussing prospects and such far more...speaking of which Jah Joyner film continues to have me higher on that Edge out of Minnesota than more...a name that GB fans should know.

Anyways, here we go. Few assumptions for this draft...GB and Jaire do nothing and he is on the team still going into the draft and I assume will be in GB for 2025, that and Hobbs coming on plus Nixon focusing solely on trying to be an outside corner in addition to Valentine still IMO being our CB2 behind Jaire I'm not petrified of the CB room atm.

1.23 - GREEN BAY TRADES BACK...KC IS TRYING TO PUSH BACK AFTER THE SB LOSS and knowing their biggest need is OL, they want to trade up to get that help.
Green Bay receives 1.31 / 3.95 / 2026 R4 - KC gets 1.23 *pundits think GB got a fair return but that KC didn't have to give up as much as many would have thought. However, with Harmon, Nolen, Alexander, Williams for iDLs on the board still and edges in Nic Scourton, Landon Jackson and even Pearce on the board I like how my personal board looks and see more value in trade back than drafting someone. If I had stayed I'll be honest my pick is Nolen as I think his ceiling as a player is HIGHER than Harmon....Pearce I keep hearing more and more character concerns and I just don't think that fits in GB (he's incredibly gifted though)

1.31 - Nolen and Pearce go off the board but Harmon is still out there so I rush to make the call and bring Derrick Harmon iDL from Oregon to Green Bay. He's just an explosive multi-skilled prospect with MASSIVE upside but immediate impact. Length for days, massive hands - rarely does a blocker get better leverage against him....has pass rush pressure skills that will keep him on the field also on third down if Hafley would want.

2.54 - Packer fans rejoice collectively and hope that the second round WR run GB is on is going to keep trucking along with Utah State's Jalen Royals. I've gushed about Royals enough and yes I have him in my rankings at 44 which might even be tick low at the time of typing this given how good and well rounded of a WR I think he is. He has the traits and shows the promise of being everything Watson is for us, but perhaps just a little less physical and maybe a little slower...but this dude can scoot, route tree is solid for a prospect and he doesn't shy away from contact. Jennings then Nelson then Cobb then Adams then Watson then Reed then Royals???

2.61 - This pick will shock some...I immediately sacrifice some draft capital to double down on offensive firepower to help Love.....by sending 3.87 / 6.198 / 2026 3rd to Washington for 2.61 / 7.245. This is a guy I think when about 2027 rolls around many will be pointing to him as a massive steal in the draft, and a guy positionally that is on his way to being one of the Top10 at his position, and maybe even more. The crazy thing is I actually say that now about who will be his teammate here in Green Bay. This is a guy that is that term we hear often "raw" to many but I see a guy that finally when a transfer addition happened was able to be utilized to his fullest potential and that is a versatile and dual threat tight end in the offense. He is skilled in the slot or inline, very willing blocker who comes in better than Musgrave even is now at blocking but will need to improve, but his juice and ability to read and find soft spots when facing zone coverages is special - MASSIVE senior bowl stand out as well and immediately provides that TE2 inline role which Musgrave IMO just isn't built for and assures that we don't need to resign both Musgrave and Kraft....I've also said many times one way to improve our passing attack for the MLF system is pump athletic and good TEs. One drop his entire career - Elijah Arroyo TE from Miami is coming to Green Bay and while fans will bemoan and be mad...I'm trusting my gut and I feel his value and what he might become is higher than anyone else.

3.95 - Pass rush incoming. A guy I haven't really touched on a lot, but really like in Ashton Gillotte from Louisville is the guy I pick. 83 total pressures over the last two seasons, 14 sacks and has experienced success both over and outside the tackle. An explosive twitchy guy with solid size and strength to go with it. He didn't do any agility or speed testing at combine but his fluidity in some of the drills was clear....his strength though against the run and the fact Louisville would deploy him in a 3 tech at times would likely get Hafley excited with experimenting with him. Either way fourth pick I had some much needed pass rush into the edge room.

4.124 - Everyone loved what Edgerrin Cooper could do last year...as the game slowed down and he showed digestion of the defense and got more snaps it was clear this missile could play. I would love to see us have another athletic diverse option incase Quay returns to his 2023 style more so OR also provide a potential out to having to work something out with Quay in lieu of a fifth year option...Danny Stutsman LB out of Oklahoma is a crazy athlete who was all over the field in his college career. Just slightly less traitsy than Cooper was, arms are touch over 32...I still think Danny could be one of the better steals off ball wise in the middle of the draft. Some insurance for this year but potentially a starter alongside Cooper into the future this pick screamed at me and I had to answer.

5.159 - The pressure of needing a starter at CB somewhat lessoned with everything....I still kept looking at my board and pondering a CB essentially ever since the second round....and finally the itch to grab a prospect I'm VERY high on (he's even appeared in my Top100 before this year and likely may wash out just outside it) and that is Mac McWilliams from UCF. A guy that meets the threshold of 190 pounds but is slightly shorter than we normally take at 5'10' but he has exceptional speed and is STICKY in coverage. Rolls his hips over extremely fast and is quick to close. A fifth round coin toss type guy that I think worst case is your CB4 or so and maybe turns into more has immense value. Yes if you just look up stuff on him, he is grossly undervalued IMO in many rankings you'll see - but I'm sticking to my board.

7.237 - Time to take a swing at the OLine in the time frame which is one of my favorites. Gerard Christian-Lichtenhan from Oregon State is an oober experienced starting LT and one I've written about elsewhere. He's a little taller than what we typically go towards, but his 6'8' 328 pound frame doesn't appear strained in movement skills or abilty to explode out of his stance. His 36 inch arms provide an incredible advantage over would be rushers.

7.245 - The 7th picked up in the Washington trade turns into another late Day 3 tackle prospect I really like and that is Esa Pole from Washington State. Now Esa is more the GB type in that 6'5' 323lb build. 33.625 arms and a RAS of 7.30...his 3 cone isn't great though and I could see him really feasting if told to focus on a guard position at the next level. Gave up only 9 pressures last year, which included 0 sacks out of 861 snaps. His pass blocking technique and footwork is very good...needs some strength added for leveraging attack/run blocking but I love Esa as a late round zero risk addition.

7.250 - Making it a trifecta along the OL given that we are pretty set, can always add a better veteran if we leave camp not feeling good about Monk or any of these guys being capable in reserve...but Joe Huber from Wisconsin gets the pick here. Huber has started at RT during his time at Cinci, then switched to LG in 2023, then primarily a RG in 2024 except some needed snaps even at Center. He is the prototypical body structure for GB 6'5' 310lbs solid guard length arms at 32.25 but hasn't posted any agility testing yet. However, I love his film and value on Day3 late.

So in summary:

1st - Derrick Harmon iDL
2nd - Jalen Royals WR & Elijah Arroyo TE
3rd - Ashton Gillotte EDGE
4th - Danny Stutsman LB
5th - Mac McWilliams CB
7th - Gerard Christian-Lichtenhan OT, Esa Pole OT/OG, Joe Huber iOL

Thoughts:

1) I like the trade down scenario. I want more picks and I think the caliber of player at #23 and #31 will be similar. That might beg the question as to why KC would come up, but you never know.

2) I really like Derrick Harmon. If I had to guess with highly regarded iDL they're most interested in, it would be him. He's definitely a Packers type. It would surprise me if he made it to #31, but I wont' be "he's not going to be there" guy.

3) Jalen Royals is a Packer all day long.

4) I wouldn't be in favor of drafting a TE that high. I don't think that's their weakness and I don't see Arroyo as being too good to pass up or trade up for.

One position that I think the Packers could draft higher than anyone expects (a la your pick of a TE) is quarterback. They value the position really highly as an organization and Malik Willis is in a contract season. If he shows promise again in preseason or during the regular season in relief of Love, someone will give him 6-10M AAV to come be in the mix for them and Green Bay will need a new QB2.
 
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Thoughts:

1) I like the trade down scenario. I want more picks and I think the caliber of player at #23 and #31 will be similar. That might beg the question as to why KC would come up, but you never know.

2) I really like Derrick Harmon. If I had to guess with highly regarded iDL they're most interested in, it would be him. He's definitely a Packers type. It would surprise me if he made it to #31, but I wont' be "he's not going to be there" guy.

3) Jalen Royals is a Packer all day long.

4) I wouldn't be in favor of drafting a TE that high. I don't think that's their weakness and I don't see Arroyo as being too good to pass up or trade up for.

One position that I think the Packers could draft higher than anyone expects (a la your pick of a TE) is quarterback. They value the position really highly as an organization and Malik Willis is in a contract season. If he shows promise again in preseason or during the regular season in relief of Love, someone will give him 6-10M AAV to come be in the mix for them and Green Bay will need a new QB2.

The Arroyo pick is one I don’t think Gute would do but is one I’d do fully admit.

QB I love for us Day3 is Seth Henigan, there is a ton to love about him IMO
 
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Thoughts:

1) I like the trade down scenario. I want more picks and I think the caliber of player at #23 and #31 will be similar. That might beg the question as to why KC would come up, but you never know.

2) I really like Derrick Harmon. If I had to guess with highly regarded iDL they're most interested in, it would be him. He's definitely a Packers type. It would surprise me if he made it to #31, but I wont' be "he's not going to be there" guy.

3) Jalen Royals is a Packer all day long.

4) I wouldn't be in favor of drafting a TE that high. I don't think that's their weakness and I don't see Arroyo as being too good to pass up or trade up for.

One position that I think the Packers could draft higher than anyone expects (a la your pick of a TE) is quarterback. They value the position really highly as an organization and Malik Willis is in a contract season. If he shows promise again in preseason or during the regular season in relief of Love, someone will give him 6-10M AAV to come be in the mix for them and Green Bay will need a new QB2.

Put it this way, honestly it’s a Gute type draft but instead of trading up for Arroyo it could have been a CB today Darien Porter a high traitsy guy and then in the fifth perhaps we stay with the thought of TE depth and future and Mitchell Evans from Notre Dame heads to Green Bay.

To be fair flip to that and I bet a ton of folks like it a LOT more
 

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I don't need a whole new thread, but here's a mock draft scenario for the Packers:

-Sign Mo Alie-Cox to a modest deal as the blocking specialist at TE.
-Trade Jaire Alexander for a 6th round pick.

1.23: Donovan Ezeiruaku, DE, Boston College-- This class is very deep at defensive end, but I think waiting could be a mistake-- there's likely to be a huge run at the position in the top 40. So I think the Packers should take advantage of the depth by landing a talent at #23 that wouldn't make it that far in a normal class. Enter Ezeiruaku. Pros: Highly productive (45.5 career TFL, including 30 sacks, 8 career FF); highly athletic (81st% broad, 88th% vert, 96th% 3C and shuttle); highly nuanced; plus length (34" arms; 6'10"+ wingspan); durable (didn't miss a game to injury in his final three seasons at BC) committed & known quantity (spent four years at BC, three of them under Jeff Hafley). Cons: Lacks the power to bull rush and deal with blockers in his frame (6025, 248#).

Ezeiruaku checks virtually every box you could want checked and is my favorite prospect in this class. If he was an inch taller and 10 lbs heavier, he's a top 10 prospect. The Packers typically like bigger defensive ends, but they reportedly had a lot of interest in Will McDonald, who was very similar (6040, 239 w/ 35" arms w/ 42 career TFL). He would bring a skill-set to the DE room that currently doesn't exist. I believe they're willing to have a guy on the roster at the position who is undersized, but that player needs to be a true asset as a pass rusher. That is definitely Ezeiruaku. Comp-- Will McDonald IV.

2.54: Alfred Collins, DT, Texas--
I believe that the Packers are very interested in Derrick Harmon, so in this scenario they end up with a discount version in round 2. Collins isn't the pass rusher that Harmon is, but I do think he has the potential to become one. More importantly for the present, he could help replace Slaton's snaps at the 1T and develop into the future replacement of Kenny Clark. Comp-- DaQuan Jones.

3.87: Tory Horton, WR, Colorado State--
This is a little high for Horton against consensus, but I think he's a guy who will rise in the media. Horton has been billed as a savvy possession receiver whose athleticism is lacking, but I think that's a misread. At 6024, 196# he jumped 37.5" and ran a 4.46 coming off a knee injury that cut short his 2024 season. Furthermore, he's been a highly effective punt returner over his career (26 returns for 423 yards and 3 touchdowns-- 16.3 average), which is a good indicator of applied athleticism. He's been in college for five years, but he's still only 22 and was good immediately for Nevada. I think he could become a replacement for Romeo Doubs in the possession role, but with athletic upside to become a better version of the same player. Comp-- Poor Man's Garrett Wilson; Rich Man's Jakobi Meyers.

4.123: Caleb Rogers, OL, Texas Tech--
Rogers is the quintessential Packers OL prospect. He's 6050, 312# with 32.5" arms; he had a 7.43 3C and a 4.49 shuttle (they typically want guys below 7.8 and 4.8 respectively). He has started 16 games at left tackle, 2 at left guard, 1 at right guard, and 36 at right tackle. He has the combination of size, strength, and movement skills to do whatever you want in the running game. He's actually very similar to Aaron Banks, but with more tackle experience. Most see him as a guard at the next level due to length, but GB is generally less concerned about that than most. With uncertainty brewing at both tackle (Walker) and guard (Rhyan), he would be an ideal player to add to the mix. Comp-- Aaron Banks w/ tackle feet.

5.159: Chimere D.ike, WR, Florida--
D.ike was one of the few players at the combine who elected to perform a full workout. He came in at 6010, 196# with 32.2" arms and ran a 4.34 forty with a 1.51 split. The rest of his workout was excellent and he came out with a 9.69 RAS. So he's a Packers type. More importantly, he would bring some vertical ability to the receiver room (18.4 YPR in 2024; 16.3 for his career). He's very similar to Darius Slayton coming out of Auburn and I have him going here in a similar range of the draft. Comp-- Darius Slayton.

6.???: Justin Walley, CB, Minnesota--
This is late for the Packers to be drafting their first corner, but I can see them waiting longer than people expect. Certainly if the right guy is there at the right pick, I wouldn't rule it out at any point, but the reality is that the top 3 corners are pretty much set: Nixon was a solid outside corner, Hobbs was clearly signed to play, and Valentine acquitted himself well on 547 snaps. Bullard is also going to see a lot of the snaps in the slot. Furthermore, all four players will be under contract in 2026 as well. So there isn't a pressing immediate need, nor is there a big issue going into next season. For those reasons, I could see them backfill the depth without worrying about immediate impact. Walley is shorter than they like, but he has the experience and movement skills to make a roster.

6.198: Bilhal Kone, CB, Western Michigan-- Further depth at corner.

7.237: Brady Cook, QB, Missouri-- A flier on a developmental QB with a lot of natural talent.

7.250: Kain Medrano, LB, UCLA-- A potential dime backer with ST acumen.
 
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I don't need a whole new thread, but here's a mock draft scenario for the Packers:

-Sign Mo Alie-Cox to a modest deal as the blocking specialist at TE.
-Trade Jaire Alexander for a 6th round pick.

1.23: Donovan Ezeiruaku, DE, Boston College-- This class is very deep at defensive end, but I think waiting could be a mistake-- there's likely to be a huge run at the position in the top 40. So I think the Packers should take advantage of the depth by landing a talent at #23 that wouldn't make it that far in a normal class. Enter Ezeiruaku. Pros: Highly productive (45.5 career TFL, including 30 sacks, 8 career FF); highly athletic (81st% broad, 88th% vert, 96th% 3C and shuttle); highly nuanced; plus length (34" arms; 6'10"+ wingspan); durable (didn't miss a game to injury in his final three seasons at BC) committed & known quantity (spent four years at BC, three of them under Jeff Hafley). Cons: Lacks the power to bull rush and deal with blockers in his frame (6025, 248#).

Ezeiruaku checks virtually every box you could want checked and is my favorite prospect in this class. If he was an inch taller and 10 lbs heavier, he's a top 10 prospect. The Packers typically like bigger defensive ends, but they reportedly had a lot of interest in Will McDonald, who was very similar (6040, 239 w/ 35" arms w/ 42 career TFL). He would bring a skill-set to the DE room that currently doesn't exist. I believe they're willing to have a guy on the roster at the position who is undersized, but that player needs to be a true asset as a pass rusher. That is definitely Ezeiruaku. Comp-- Will McDonald IV.

2.54: Alfred Collins, DT, Texas--
I believe that the Packers are very interested in Derrick Harmon, so in this scenario they end up with a discount version in round 2. Collins isn't the pass rusher that Harmon is, but I do think he has the potential to become one. More importantly for the present, he could help replace Slaton's snaps at the 1T and develop into the future replacement of Kenny Clark. Comp-- DaQuan Jones.

3.87: Tory Horton, WR, Colorado State--
This is a little high for Horton against consensus, but I think he's a guy who will rise in the media. Horton has been billed as a savvy possession receiver whose athleticism is lacking, but I think that's a misread. At 6024, 196# he jumped 37.5" and ran a 4.46 coming off a knee injury that cut short his 2024 season. Furthermore, he's been a highly effective punt returner over his career (26 returns for 423 yards and 3 touchdowns-- 16.3 average), which is a good indicator of applied athleticism. He's been in college for five years, but he's still only 22 and was good immediately for Nevada. I think he could become a replacement for Romeo Doubs in the possession role, but with athletic upside to become a better version of the same player. Comp-- Poor Man's Garrett Wilson; Rich Man's Jakobi Meyers.

4.123: Caleb Rogers, OL, Texas Tech--
Rogers is the quintessential Packers OL prospect. He's 6050, 312# with 32.5" arms; he had a 7.43 3C and a 4.49 shuttle (they typically want guys below 7.8 and 4.8 respectively). He has started 16 games at left tackle, 2 at left guard, 1 at right guard, and 36 at right tackle. He has the combination of size, strength, and movement skills to do whatever you want in the running game. He's actually very similar to Aaron Banks, but with more tackle experience. Most see him as a guard at the next level due to length, but GB is generally less concerned about that than most. With uncertainty brewing at both tackle (Walker) and guard (Rhyan), he would be an ideal player to add to the mix. Comp-- Aaron Banks w/ tackle feet.

5.159: Chimere D.ike, WR, Florida--
D.ike was one of the few players at the combine who elected to perform a full workout. He came in at 6010, 196# with 32.2" arms and ran a 4.34 forty with a 1.51 split. The rest of his workout was excellent and he came out with a 9.69 RAS. So he's a Packers type. More importantly, he would bring some vertical ability to the receiver room (18.4 YPR in 2024; 16.3 for his career). He's very similar to Darius Slayton coming out of Auburn and I have him going here in a similar range of the draft. Comp-- Darius Slayton.

6.???: Justin Walley, CB, Minnesota--
This is late for the Packers to be drafting their first corner, but I can see them waiting longer than people expect. Certainly if the right guy is there at the right pick, I wouldn't rule it out at any point, but the reality is that the top 3 corners are pretty much set: Nixon was a solid outside corner, Hobbs was clearly signed to play, and Valentine acquitted himself well on 547 snaps. Bullard is also going to see a lot of the snaps in the slot. Furthermore, all four players will be under contract in 2026 as well. So there isn't a pressing immediate need, nor is there a big issue going into next season. For those reasons, I could see them backfill the depth without worrying about immediate impact. Walley is shorter than they like, but he has the experience and movement skills to make a roster.

6.198: Bilhal Kone, CB, Western Michigan-- Further depth at corner.

7.237: Brady Cook, QB, Missouri-- A flier on a developmental QB with a lot of natural talent.

7.250: Kain Medrano, LB, UCLA-- A potential dime backer with ST acumen.

Every single one of these guys are absolutely Packer types and I love. Horton is one of those dudes that I say has a close ceiling and floor but he absolutely will contribute - Romeo is my comp for him that folks know.

Collins is in my Top50 so you know I love that pick!

Cook is my other QB for last grabs like Henigan!

Love it man!
 

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