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I wasn't going to do such a mock, one where I don't try to think as much as Gute for a predictive but a "Tyni is GM approach" type...but here we are.
I'll likely only do one more mock, because I think I enjoy just discussing prospects and such far more...speaking of which Jah Joyner film continues to have me higher on that Edge out of Minnesota than more...a name that GB fans should know.
Anyways, here we go. Few assumptions for this draft...GB and Jaire do nothing and he is on the team still going into the draft and I assume will be in GB for 2025, that and Hobbs coming on plus Nixon focusing solely on trying to be an outside corner in addition to Valentine still IMO being our CB2 behind Jaire I'm not petrified of the CB room atm.
1.23 - GREEN BAY TRADES BACK...KC IS TRYING TO PUSH BACK AFTER THE SB LOSS and knowing their biggest need is OL, they want to trade up to get that help.
Green Bay receives 1.31 / 3.95 / 2026 R4 - KC gets 1.23 *pundits think GB got a fair return but that KC didn't have to give up as much as many would have thought. However, with Harmon, Nolen, Alexander, Williams for iDLs on the board still and edges in Nic Scourton, Landon Jackson and even Pearce on the board I like how my personal board looks and see more value in trade back than drafting someone. If I had stayed I'll be honest my pick is Nolen as I think his ceiling as a player is HIGHER than Harmon....Pearce I keep hearing more and more character concerns and I just don't think that fits in GB (he's incredibly gifted though)
1.31 - Nolen and Pearce go off the board but Harmon is still out there so I rush to make the call and bring Derrick Harmon iDL from Oregon to Green Bay. He's just an explosive multi-skilled prospect with MASSIVE upside but immediate impact. Length for days, massive hands - rarely does a blocker get better leverage against him....has pass rush pressure skills that will keep him on the field also on third down if Hafley would want.
2.54 - Packer fans rejoice collectively and hope that the second round WR run GB is on is going to keep trucking along with Utah State's Jalen Royals. I've gushed about Royals enough and yes I have him in my rankings at 44 which might even be tick low at the time of typing this given how good and well rounded of a WR I think he is. He has the traits and shows the promise of being everything Watson is for us, but perhaps just a little less physical and maybe a little slower...but this dude can scoot, route tree is solid for a prospect and he doesn't shy away from contact. Jennings then Nelson then Cobb then Adams then Watson then Reed then Royals???
2.61 - This pick will shock some...I immediately sacrifice some draft capital to double down on offensive firepower to help Love.....by sending 3.87 / 6.198 / 2026 3rd to Washington for 2.61 / 7.245. This is a guy I think when about 2027 rolls around many will be pointing to him as a massive steal in the draft, and a guy positionally that is on his way to being one of the Top10 at his position, and maybe even more. The crazy thing is I actually say that now about who will be his teammate here in Green Bay. This is a guy that is that term we hear often "raw" to many but I see a guy that finally when a transfer addition happened was able to be utilized to his fullest potential and that is a versatile and dual threat tight end in the offense. He is skilled in the slot or inline, very willing blocker who comes in better than Musgrave even is now at blocking but will need to improve, but his juice and ability to read and find soft spots when facing zone coverages is special - MASSIVE senior bowl stand out as well and immediately provides that TE2 inline role which Musgrave IMO just isn't built for and assures that we don't need to resign both Musgrave and Kraft....I've also said many times one way to improve our passing attack for the MLF system is pump athletic and good TEs. One drop his entire career - Elijah Arroyo TE from Miami is coming to Green Bay and while fans will bemoan and be mad...I'm trusting my gut and I feel his value and what he might become is higher than anyone else.
3.95 - Pass rush incoming. A guy I haven't really touched on a lot, but really like in Ashton Gillotte from Louisville is the guy I pick. 83 total pressures over the last two seasons, 14 sacks and has experienced success both over and outside the tackle. An explosive twitchy guy with solid size and strength to go with it. He didn't do any agility or speed testing at combine but his fluidity in some of the drills was clear....his strength though against the run and the fact Louisville would deploy him in a 3 tech at times would likely get Hafley excited with experimenting with him. Either way fourth pick I had some much needed pass rush into the edge room.
4.124 - Everyone loved what Edgerrin Cooper could do last year...as the game slowed down and he showed digestion of the defense and got more snaps it was clear this missile could play. I would love to see us have another athletic diverse option incase Quay returns to his 2023 style more so OR also provide a potential out to having to work something out with Quay in lieu of a fifth year option...Danny Stutsman LB out of Oklahoma is a crazy athlete who was all over the field in his college career. Just slightly less traitsy than Cooper was, arms are touch over 32...I still think Danny could be one of the better steals off ball wise in the middle of the draft. Some insurance for this year but potentially a starter alongside Cooper into the future this pick screamed at me and I had to answer.
5.159 - The pressure of needing a starter at CB somewhat lessoned with everything....I still kept looking at my board and pondering a CB essentially ever since the second round....and finally the itch to grab a prospect I'm VERY high on (he's even appeared in my Top100 before this year and likely may wash out just outside it) and that is Mac McWilliams from UCF. A guy that meets the threshold of 190 pounds but is slightly shorter than we normally take at 5'10' but he has exceptional speed and is STICKY in coverage. Rolls his hips over extremely fast and is quick to close. A fifth round coin toss type guy that I think worst case is your CB4 or so and maybe turns into more has immense value. Yes if you just look up stuff on him, he is grossly undervalued IMO in many rankings you'll see - but I'm sticking to my board.
7.237 - Time to take a swing at the OLine in the time frame which is one of my favorites. Gerard Christian-Lichtenhan from Oregon State is an oober experienced starting LT and one I've written about elsewhere. He's a little taller than what we typically go towards, but his 6'8' 328 pound frame doesn't appear strained in movement skills or abilty to explode out of his stance. His 36 inch arms provide an incredible advantage over would be rushers.
7.245 - The 7th picked up in the Washington trade turns into another late Day 3 tackle prospect I really like and that is Esa Pole from Washington State. Now Esa is more the GB type in that 6'5' 323lb build. 33.625 arms and a RAS of 7.30...his 3 cone isn't great though and I could see him really feasting if told to focus on a guard position at the next level. Gave up only 9 pressures last year, which included 0 sacks out of 861 snaps. His pass blocking technique and footwork is very good...needs some strength added for leveraging attack/run blocking but I love Esa as a late round zero risk addition.
7.250 - Making it a trifecta along the OL given that we are pretty set, can always add a better veteran if we leave camp not feeling good about Monk or any of these guys being capable in reserve...but Joe Huber from Wisconsin gets the pick here. Huber has started at RT during his time at Cinci, then switched to LG in 2023, then primarily a RG in 2024 except some needed snaps even at Center. He is the prototypical body structure for GB 6'5' 310lbs solid guard length arms at 32.25 but hasn't posted any agility testing yet. However, I love his film and value on Day3 late.
So in summary:
1st - Derrick Harmon iDL
2nd - Jalen Royals WR & Elijah Arroyo TE
3rd - Ashton Gillotte EDGE
4th - Danny Stutsman LB
5th - Mac McWilliams CB
7th - Gerard Christian-Lichtenhan OT, Esa Pole OT/OG, Joe Huber iOL
I'll likely only do one more mock, because I think I enjoy just discussing prospects and such far more...speaking of which Jah Joyner film continues to have me higher on that Edge out of Minnesota than more...a name that GB fans should know.
Anyways, here we go. Few assumptions for this draft...GB and Jaire do nothing and he is on the team still going into the draft and I assume will be in GB for 2025, that and Hobbs coming on plus Nixon focusing solely on trying to be an outside corner in addition to Valentine still IMO being our CB2 behind Jaire I'm not petrified of the CB room atm.
1.23 - GREEN BAY TRADES BACK...KC IS TRYING TO PUSH BACK AFTER THE SB LOSS and knowing their biggest need is OL, they want to trade up to get that help.
Green Bay receives 1.31 / 3.95 / 2026 R4 - KC gets 1.23 *pundits think GB got a fair return but that KC didn't have to give up as much as many would have thought. However, with Harmon, Nolen, Alexander, Williams for iDLs on the board still and edges in Nic Scourton, Landon Jackson and even Pearce on the board I like how my personal board looks and see more value in trade back than drafting someone. If I had stayed I'll be honest my pick is Nolen as I think his ceiling as a player is HIGHER than Harmon....Pearce I keep hearing more and more character concerns and I just don't think that fits in GB (he's incredibly gifted though)
1.31 - Nolen and Pearce go off the board but Harmon is still out there so I rush to make the call and bring Derrick Harmon iDL from Oregon to Green Bay. He's just an explosive multi-skilled prospect with MASSIVE upside but immediate impact. Length for days, massive hands - rarely does a blocker get better leverage against him....has pass rush pressure skills that will keep him on the field also on third down if Hafley would want.
2.54 - Packer fans rejoice collectively and hope that the second round WR run GB is on is going to keep trucking along with Utah State's Jalen Royals. I've gushed about Royals enough and yes I have him in my rankings at 44 which might even be tick low at the time of typing this given how good and well rounded of a WR I think he is. He has the traits and shows the promise of being everything Watson is for us, but perhaps just a little less physical and maybe a little slower...but this dude can scoot, route tree is solid for a prospect and he doesn't shy away from contact. Jennings then Nelson then Cobb then Adams then Watson then Reed then Royals???
2.61 - This pick will shock some...I immediately sacrifice some draft capital to double down on offensive firepower to help Love.....by sending 3.87 / 6.198 / 2026 3rd to Washington for 2.61 / 7.245. This is a guy I think when about 2027 rolls around many will be pointing to him as a massive steal in the draft, and a guy positionally that is on his way to being one of the Top10 at his position, and maybe even more. The crazy thing is I actually say that now about who will be his teammate here in Green Bay. This is a guy that is that term we hear often "raw" to many but I see a guy that finally when a transfer addition happened was able to be utilized to his fullest potential and that is a versatile and dual threat tight end in the offense. He is skilled in the slot or inline, very willing blocker who comes in better than Musgrave even is now at blocking but will need to improve, but his juice and ability to read and find soft spots when facing zone coverages is special - MASSIVE senior bowl stand out as well and immediately provides that TE2 inline role which Musgrave IMO just isn't built for and assures that we don't need to resign both Musgrave and Kraft....I've also said many times one way to improve our passing attack for the MLF system is pump athletic and good TEs. One drop his entire career - Elijah Arroyo TE from Miami is coming to Green Bay and while fans will bemoan and be mad...I'm trusting my gut and I feel his value and what he might become is higher than anyone else.
3.95 - Pass rush incoming. A guy I haven't really touched on a lot, but really like in Ashton Gillotte from Louisville is the guy I pick. 83 total pressures over the last two seasons, 14 sacks and has experienced success both over and outside the tackle. An explosive twitchy guy with solid size and strength to go with it. He didn't do any agility or speed testing at combine but his fluidity in some of the drills was clear....his strength though against the run and the fact Louisville would deploy him in a 3 tech at times would likely get Hafley excited with experimenting with him. Either way fourth pick I had some much needed pass rush into the edge room.
4.124 - Everyone loved what Edgerrin Cooper could do last year...as the game slowed down and he showed digestion of the defense and got more snaps it was clear this missile could play. I would love to see us have another athletic diverse option incase Quay returns to his 2023 style more so OR also provide a potential out to having to work something out with Quay in lieu of a fifth year option...Danny Stutsman LB out of Oklahoma is a crazy athlete who was all over the field in his college career. Just slightly less traitsy than Cooper was, arms are touch over 32...I still think Danny could be one of the better steals off ball wise in the middle of the draft. Some insurance for this year but potentially a starter alongside Cooper into the future this pick screamed at me and I had to answer.
5.159 - The pressure of needing a starter at CB somewhat lessoned with everything....I still kept looking at my board and pondering a CB essentially ever since the second round....and finally the itch to grab a prospect I'm VERY high on (he's even appeared in my Top100 before this year and likely may wash out just outside it) and that is Mac McWilliams from UCF. A guy that meets the threshold of 190 pounds but is slightly shorter than we normally take at 5'10' but he has exceptional speed and is STICKY in coverage. Rolls his hips over extremely fast and is quick to close. A fifth round coin toss type guy that I think worst case is your CB4 or so and maybe turns into more has immense value. Yes if you just look up stuff on him, he is grossly undervalued IMO in many rankings you'll see - but I'm sticking to my board.
7.237 - Time to take a swing at the OLine in the time frame which is one of my favorites. Gerard Christian-Lichtenhan from Oregon State is an oober experienced starting LT and one I've written about elsewhere. He's a little taller than what we typically go towards, but his 6'8' 328 pound frame doesn't appear strained in movement skills or abilty to explode out of his stance. His 36 inch arms provide an incredible advantage over would be rushers.
7.245 - The 7th picked up in the Washington trade turns into another late Day 3 tackle prospect I really like and that is Esa Pole from Washington State. Now Esa is more the GB type in that 6'5' 323lb build. 33.625 arms and a RAS of 7.30...his 3 cone isn't great though and I could see him really feasting if told to focus on a guard position at the next level. Gave up only 9 pressures last year, which included 0 sacks out of 861 snaps. His pass blocking technique and footwork is very good...needs some strength added for leveraging attack/run blocking but I love Esa as a late round zero risk addition.
7.250 - Making it a trifecta along the OL given that we are pretty set, can always add a better veteran if we leave camp not feeling good about Monk or any of these guys being capable in reserve...but Joe Huber from Wisconsin gets the pick here. Huber has started at RT during his time at Cinci, then switched to LG in 2023, then primarily a RG in 2024 except some needed snaps even at Center. He is the prototypical body structure for GB 6'5' 310lbs solid guard length arms at 32.25 but hasn't posted any agility testing yet. However, I love his film and value on Day3 late.
So in summary:
1st - Derrick Harmon iDL
2nd - Jalen Royals WR & Elijah Arroyo TE
3rd - Ashton Gillotte EDGE
4th - Danny Stutsman LB
5th - Mac McWilliams CB
7th - Gerard Christian-Lichtenhan OT, Esa Pole OT/OG, Joe Huber iOL
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