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<blockquote data-quote="vince" data-source="post: 615007" data-attributes="member: 10935"><p>Hi guys. New here. It looks like there's some good banter on this site so I'll chime in. </p><p></p><p>Conservative offense? Yup. That hurt but I think HRE is correct that ball control is paramount in that situation. If they have a successful 4-minute offense in that situation no one questions it post-mortem. In retrospect, there's no way to deny that they should have done something different offensively to get a first down and burn more clock. Up 2 scores as they were, I have a hard time blaming McCarthy for having confidence in his offense to move it a bit more effectively but even more so in his defense to make Seattle take more time than they did to score.</p><p></p><p>Defensive meltdown? Yup but over the course of the game the defense not just controlled Seattle, but dominated them for 55 minutes. They needed a bit more help not just from the offense in the 4th quarter but - and this in my opinion was the most impactful cause of that loss by many orders of magnitude - from Special Teams - especially Brandon Bostick. In football, rarely does one play have such a defining impact on the outcome of the game as that one did.</p><p></p><p>Within a matter of seconds, Seattle went from a desperate team 2 scores down and barely more than 2 minutes on the clock to an energized team less than 1 score down with the ball in enemy territory, a ton of time on the clock and unbelievable momentum against a shell-shocked defense who couldn't believe what just happened. All because one guy, who was coached to do a very simple thing - block the defender who's trying to recover the ball and protect your teammate who is the designated recoverer - suffered from a momentary lapse of reason and tried to recover the easy pop up but without teammate protection and had it go through his hands, doink of his helmet and fall right into the guy's hands who he neglected to block. Had he just done his job, Jordy could have muffed the pop-up and still sat down on the ball because there would have been no-one around him.</p><p></p><p>It was a Billy Buckner moment - but at least Buckner was trying to do the right thing. Had Brandon Bostick (BB - something fateful about that coincidence) just tried to do the right thing, the Packers almost certainly win that game.</p><p></p><p>You can look at every play from both offense and defense, and say a different decision or execution would have brought a different result, but NONE of those other decisions or results had even remotely close to the same impact on the outcome as that one on-side play. At that singular moment, and as a direct result of Bostick's fateful decision AND failure to execute, what was actually a great defensive performance and a gutty, grind-it-out offensive effort against the best defense in the league, became the opposite.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vince, post: 615007, member: 10935"] Hi guys. New here. It looks like there's some good banter on this site so I'll chime in. Conservative offense? Yup. That hurt but I think HRE is correct that ball control is paramount in that situation. If they have a successful 4-minute offense in that situation no one questions it post-mortem. In retrospect, there's no way to deny that they should have done something different offensively to get a first down and burn more clock. Up 2 scores as they were, I have a hard time blaming McCarthy for having confidence in his offense to move it a bit more effectively but even more so in his defense to make Seattle take more time than they did to score. Defensive meltdown? Yup but over the course of the game the defense not just controlled Seattle, but dominated them for 55 minutes. They needed a bit more help not just from the offense in the 4th quarter but - and this in my opinion was the most impactful cause of that loss by many orders of magnitude - from Special Teams - especially Brandon Bostick. In football, rarely does one play have such a defining impact on the outcome of the game as that one did. Within a matter of seconds, Seattle went from a desperate team 2 scores down and barely more than 2 minutes on the clock to an energized team less than 1 score down with the ball in enemy territory, a ton of time on the clock and unbelievable momentum against a shell-shocked defense who couldn't believe what just happened. All because one guy, who was coached to do a very simple thing - block the defender who's trying to recover the ball and protect your teammate who is the designated recoverer - suffered from a momentary lapse of reason and tried to recover the easy pop up but without teammate protection and had it go through his hands, doink of his helmet and fall right into the guy's hands who he neglected to block. Had he just done his job, Jordy could have muffed the pop-up and still sat down on the ball because there would have been no-one around him. It was a Billy Buckner moment - but at least Buckner was trying to do the right thing. Had Brandon Bostick (BB - something fateful about that coincidence) just tried to do the right thing, the Packers almost certainly win that game. You can look at every play from both offense and defense, and say a different decision or execution would have brought a different result, but NONE of those other decisions or results had even remotely close to the same impact on the outcome as that one on-side play. At that singular moment, and as a direct result of Bostick's fateful decision AND failure to execute, what was actually a great defensive performance and a gutty, grind-it-out offensive effort against the best defense in the league, became the opposite. [/QUOTE]
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