Injuries

[Deleted member 6794]

Correlation does not necessarily equal causation, but I am sure they will be trying to figure this how for the next CBA agreement.

With the current CBA running through the 2030 season they might want to make some changes before that if deemed necessary.

 

[sschind]

I hear you, but I think those who are tired of repeatedly making it to the playoffs and getting exposed might prefer either beating teams at peak strength or taking the loss so as not to suffer through this again. I understand the 'just make it and see what happens' philosophy, but, still...

The W/L outcome I would prefer would be as follows

#1 beat them at their full strength
#2 beat them with a bunch of their players out
#3 lose to them at their full strength
#4 lose to them with a bunch of their players out

Given the choice between losing in the playoffs and not making the playoffs I would choose the former. That doesn't mean I am content to just make the playoffs it means I want them to win as many games as they can. If we are playing the Chiefs in the SB you can be damn certain I'm not going be upset if patrick Mahomes can't suit up.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

The W/L outcome I would prefer would be as follows

#1 beat them at their full strength
#2 beat them with a bunch of their players out
#3 lose to them at their full strength
#4 lose to them with a bunch of their players out

I would love to beat them at full strength, while playing only our backups.

 

[swhitset]

I would love to beat them at full strength, while playing only our backups.

Except Crosby... I’d like him to kick about 9 field goals... after the backup QB gets his 6 TD passes.

 

[PikeBadger]

Anyone hearing anything on how ridiculously long our current injury list is?
I haven’t seen any news on either team’s injuries.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Anyone hearing anything on how ridiculously long our current injury list is?
I haven’t seen any news on either team’s injuries.

I only saw that JA, Z-Dog, Shepherd and Wagner didn't practice. Everyone else on the list practiced in some way (Full or limited).

 

[sschind]

Except Crosby... I’d like him to kick about 9 field goals... after the backup QB gets his 6 TD passes.

Great, then Love would NEVER pass Boyle on the depth chart. That is unless he jumps Boyle and gets the start of course.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Anyone hearing anything on how ridiculously long our current injury list is?
I haven’t seen any news on either team’s injuries.

As Poker correctly pointed out only four players didn't participate at all yesterday. The Jaguars had six players who were forced to sit out Wednesday's practice.

 

[PikeBadger]

I saw an injury list last night on CBS sports that made me feel good. We only have 17 on the list and that includes Covid. Jax had over 20 with a number on injured reserve. My take away is the two teams are sharing the same training and medical staffs to save money.

 

[Poppa San]

I saw an injury list last night on CBS sports that made me feel good. We only have 17 on the list and that includes Covid. Jax had over 20 with a number on injured reserve. My take away is the two teams are sharing the same training and medical staffs to save money.

49ers have 16 players and $87m on IR at this time. Another 2 on PUP, 3 Covid opt outs, 1 Covid list for another $10m. Makes me feel better about our 8 on IR.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

49ers have 16 players and $87m on IR at this time. Another 2 on PUP, 3 Covid opt outs, 1 Covid list for another $10m. Makes me feel better about our 8 on IR.

Agreed. While we have lost some key players (Davante, A. Jones, Bahk, King, Clark) for multiple games, we have been fortunate that we have yet to loose a really important contributor for the entire season. If this team gets on a roll and continues to stay relatively healthy, they might head into the Playoffs in very good shape.

 

[PikeBadger]

Agreed. While we have lost some key players (Davante, A. Jones, Bahk, King, Clark) for multiple games, we have been fortunate that we have yet to loose a really important contributor for the entire season. If this team gets on a roll and continues to stay relatively healthy, they might head into the Playoffs in very good shape.

I wonder what our starters games lost number looks like compared to other teams.

 

[swhitset]

I wonder what our starters games lost number looks like compared to other teams.

Even that might be hard to accurately quantify. Define “starter”... Players lost to IR before the season? .... one game in?... etc...

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I wonder what our starters games lost number looks like compared to other teams.

Even that might be hard to accurately quantify. Define “starter”... Players lost to IR before the season? .... one game in?... etc...

Yeah that "games lost due to injury" doesn't always tell you the complete story. If Funchess is included in that, I would say he was never actually on the team. If MVS was lost, is that as big of a blow as losing Adams?

I guess like many stats, you have to have a college education in statistics to either fully understand them or to be able to manipulate them, in order to try and pretend to actually be making a legitimate point.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I saw an injury list last night on CBS sports that made me feel good. We only have 17 on the list and that includes Covid. Jax had over 20 with a number on injured reserve. My take away is the two teams are sharing the same training and medical staffs to save money.

The number of players on the injury list isn't the important one though. For example Z is on for this week but him missing Wednesday's practice was not injury related.

Only three players didn't participate in yesterday's session, that's the number to look at.

Even that might be hard to accurately quantify. Players lost to IR before the season? .... one game in?... etc...

That would be taken care of as the metric reflects the number of games missed by starters. Unfortunately it doesn't account for quality of those players.

 

[swhitset]

The number of players on the injury list isn't the important one though. For example Z is on for this week but him missing Wednesday's practice was not injury related.

Only three players didn't participate in yesterday's session, that's the number to look at.



That would be taken care of as the metric reflects the number of games missed by starters. Unfortunately it doesn't account for quality of those players.

Which was exactly my point. Incidentally editing my post and the quoting it missing the key sentence in it doesn’t really make a lot of sense. My whole point was the fact that one person’s definition of a “starter” might not agree with someone else’s. I’m not really interested in what yours is... nor do you need to care want mine is... the point is... that trying to determine which teams are hurt more by injuries is not an exact science.

 

[PikeBadger]

The number of players on the injury list isn't the important one though. For example Z is on for this week but him missing Wednesday's practice was not injury related.

Only three players didn't participate in yesterday's session, that's the number to look at.



That would be taken care of as the metric reflects the number of games missed by starters. Unfortunately it doesn't account for quality of those players.

I fully realize that but I find it increasingly annoying that our numbers listed is consistently in the high teens and I see Indianapolis with 2 and Tennessee with 3. Gives me unpleasant flashbacks to that 5 year stretch where we always looked like a mash unit.

 

[PackerDNA]

Looking more and more like Bak and Lazard will play.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Incidentally editing my post and the quoting it missing the key sentence in it doesn’t really make a lot of sense. My whole point was the fact that one person’s definition of a “starter” might not agree with someone else’s.

Actually my only point was that the number of games missed by a player is accounted for in the metric. I agree it doesn't present any information about the quality of those players though.

I fully realize that but I find it increasingly annoying that our numbers listed is consistently in the high teens and I see Indianapolis with 2 and Tennessee with 3. Gives me unpleasant flashbacks to that 5 year stretch where we always looked like a mash unit.

I'm not sure where you got the information from but the Titans had 10 players listed on their injury report this week leading up to their game vs. the Colts. Indy was pretty healthy with only four players appearing on it though.

 

[jon]

I wonder what our starters games lost number looks like compared to other teams.

from
https://www.espn.in/blog/green-bay-...er-word-for-packers-changing-injury-situation

"According to the injury-tracking website Man-Games Lost, the Packers had the eighth-fewest injuries during the 2019 regular season. Digging deeper, it valued the Packers' injury issues as the fourth lowest in the league in a measure it calls 'lost approximate value,' which measures the impact of injuries based on the quality of players from their previous season performance.... So far this year, the same site has the Packers near the middle of the league -- at No. 14 -- in overall injuries but ninth in the 'lost approximate value' category."

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Well add one more person to the injury list.

TE/FB John Lovett will miss the rest of the season due to a Torn ACL injury suffered in practice today.

 

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[Deleted member 6794]

Well add one more person to the injury list.

TE/FB John Lovett will miss the rest of the season due to a Torn ACL injury suffered in practice today.

Lovett hardly played on offense but his presence on special teams will be missed.

 

[sschind]

Well add one more person to the injury list.

TE/FB John Lovett will miss the rest of the season due to a Torn ACL injury suffered in practice today.

Might as well throw in the sponge

 

[Half Empty]

...or even the towel