Heard a Trey rumor....

[tynimiller]

So....with all the recent hub-bub between Cinci ownership and Trey I had a buddy ask realistically Ty what do you think it takes to get Trey...and honestly it's taking #23 in some kind of package IMO. He is one of the best edges in the game currently and is young enough to likely have three or so high level seasons left in him minimum IMO. So what could such a scenario look like realistically??

1.23 + Kingsley Enagbare + 2026 5th Rounder FOR Trey Hendrickson and 2.49
This trade gives Cinci the first rounder they likely will want...but in order to outbid 49ers infront of us we sweeten the pot with also a guy we likely don't resign that for sure is NFL edge guy in Enagbare plus a 5th in 2026. My buddy thought that was too steep but I disagree, Trey is REALLY REALLY GOOD.

As day 2 starts Gute sees a prototypical GB Packer at a premium position and spends capital to make it happen...
GB sends 2.54 / 5.159 / 2026 3rd rounder for Titans' 2.35 / 6.188

2.35 - Trey Amos CB Ole Miss - checks every single box of a GB CB...and with Jaire still here he can breathe some as a rookie and just play free and if he starts great but if not, no rush...this is about a premium position on a guy we expect to be a starter in the future.

2.49 - Jayden Higgins WR Iowa State - I RUN THE CARD IN...Higgins again is a prototypical Packer and many thought the pick at 35 could be him. Higgins is a consensus second rounder but some are mightedly higher on him (myself included) it isn't unthinkable to see him still here and Love is smiling knowing a MASSIVE basket getter is coming.

3.87 Deone Walker DL Kentucky - toss RAS out, it wasn't built for a guy his size 6'7' 330+lbs anyways....like Karl Brooks, he wins reps. At times Walker has looked unblockable against great lines...but it's his play to play commitment and refinement in focusing more on one position as KY lined him up literally everywhere. He could come in year 1 and help plug Slaton hole left along with Clark.

4.124 *TRADED* to the Chiefs for 4.133 & 7.226...Gute wants some more picks and not many suitors but adds a 7th while dropping just 9 spots.

4.133 - Mitchell Evans TE Notre Dame...an extension of the offensive line in blocking calls, but FULLY capable receiver with incredible hands. Insurance for the future but could easily outplay Ben Sims rookie year.

6.188 - Dalton Cooper OT OklaSt. - A guy I have loved since watching film. Mainly the LT last three years, but some RT sprinkled in. A pass blocking officianado more than run blocker but has the immense length in a sub 6'6' package that GB loves typically - profiles capable outside or sliding inside.

6.198 - Bryce Cabeldue OT Kansas - Was their RT for years but this past year was moved to LT and saw immense success...heavy handed but again a very athletic profile that fits the Packer type to stay outside or the frame work to come inside. Gute essentially preparing for the losses along the OL front after this year.

7.226 - Shaun Dolac LB Buffalo - A new name to many this dude was EVERYWHERE for Buffalo and has been one of the best LBs for years in college football. This past year they slid him to the slot out of the box nearly 200 times and he looked unphased...makes sense with his incredible athleticism. He is shorter in length and height than the typical...but with Dolac you are either getting a diamond in the 7th that continues to do what he always does "deliver" OR you just got an insanely gifted STRONG athletic profile for special teams in the seventh.

7.237 - Hunter Wohler S Wisconsin - Sticking to the athletic profiles for teams worst case Wohler is absolutely just that. Immense experience in the slot, box and deep the last two years he's a chess piece added to the strong safety room. His three cone folks was 6.72...at 6'2' 213 that's special...

7.250 - Seth Henigan QB Memphis - Malik's future is unknown and we would be served well to come away with a prospect...if Henigan does in fact make it here he is perfect. Highly athletic profile who can win with his legs but can absolutely sling the ball.

 

[OldSchool101]

I like it. Ironically, I just watched some general game film of Walker a couple days ago. His only concern was endurance, so I was eye testing a couple games for myself there. They kept him on a snap fresh count if you will. When fresh he’s like plugging a Day1 imo. I still think he’s a good fit for GB because year 1 we generally limit the snap count to his anyways. He’s going to cause problems for many OL if he’s not doubled. He almost always gets some penetration and Walker does a really good job of shedding and using length to mop up RB’s as they cross LOS, mostly for short 1-3 yard gains. Many times his long arms Gorilla the RB seemingly from behind, but regularly for short 2 yard type gains.

Having Trey Hendrickson would be amazing. He’s an automatic upgrade at Pass Rush and having that quite possibly lifts those around him as he draws attention. Much like when JA is on the field at CB, he commands respect and it makes Life easier for the Defenders around him. Those type players can be trusted is what I’m
Saying and it allows Haf to venture out more boldly with his other pieces.

I’m totally fine with a WR in RD2. I’m not saying they’ll best Watson, but with a few injections of Hardman to keep opponents honest. I think another dynamic College receiver will add some juice in that Doubs to Reed type feel and we won’t really miss Watson that much. I still think Matt needs to redirect some plays to involve more TE usage and a smidge more RB usage to offset. We have Lloyd and Musgrave back and Tucker and Jacobs can be counted on in that phase a smidge more. Wonderful players in space that’s their MO

 

[tynimiller]

I like it. Ironically, I just watched some general game film of Walker a couple days ago. His only concern was endurance. I still think he’s a good fit for GB because year 1 we generally limit the snap count to his anyways. He’s going to cause problems for many OL if he’s not doubled. He almost always gets some penetration and Walker does a really good job of shedding and using length to mop up RB’s as they cross LOS, mostly for short 1-3 yard gains. Many times his long arms Gorilla the RB seemingly from behind, but regularly for short 2 yard type gains.

Having Trey Hendrickson would be amazing. He’s an automatic upgrade at Pass Rush and having that quite possibly lifts those around him as he draws attention. Much like when JA is on the field at CB, he commands respect and it makes Life easier for the Defenders around him. Those type players can be trusted is what I’m
Saying and it allows Haf to venture out more boldly with his other pieces.

You described Walker well, his size and that length is just insane...even if he can give just 10-20 snaps of his peak ceiling abilities it would be incredible and allow him to grow.

This draft depletes 2026 draft equity...but its' the cost to play the Hendrickson game and still come away with a premium position prospect in Amos...we leave the draft with just 5 picks in the 2026 draft but I feel the team just got crazy better now, but especially in 2026 potentially.

 

[OldSchool101]

Oh and the TE pick is smart. It’s not the first thought that comes to mind because we’ve splurged lately at TE. Tucker is the multi-role TE. Musgrave is the Flex and we need another TE who can stay home. With maybe a sprinkle of those Mercedes type passes, but primarily an inline role as bully blocker. We already can see that we are gearing up to Win in the Run game upfront. We value blocking at all positions, so if we can get an upgrade over that Ben Sims feel out if Baylor is not a blocking mechanism. He came into the NFL 10 pound light with 15 Reps, so he was picked because he’s light on his feet. We need a replacement for Mercedes.

Imagine trying to tackle Jacobs or Lloyd or Tucker at second level with momentum on our side. These are 220-255lb guys who are almost always superior interfacing with a DB or the more protocol new age LB once into 2nd level. Reminds me of that RB (Steelers?)that used to bulldoze our DB’s a few years ago I cant think of his name but he actually hurt JA bad

 

[tynimiller]

Oh and the TE pick is smart. It’s not the first thought that comes to mind because we’ve splurged lately at TE. Tucker is the multi-role TE. Musgrave is the Flex and we need another TE who can stay home. With maybe a sprinkle of those Mercedes type passes, but primarily an inline role as bully blocker. We already can see that we are gearing up to Win in the Run game. We value blocking at all positions, so if we can get an upgrade over that Ben Sims feel out if Baylor is not a blocking mechanism. He came into the NFL 10 pound light with 15 Reps, so he was picked because he’s light on his feet. We need a replacement for Mercedes

I've gotten to know Evans over the years because of my close proximity to ND and I could easily see him embracing a role in the NFL where a team tells him to put ten more pounds on or get ten pounds lighter. He's a diverse TE that is comfortable doing whatever is needed.

You brought up Lewis and little note on how they compare...Evans and him are three pounds apart as prospects coming out...inch difference...Evans .10 faster in the forty and slighlty better splits (he has enough burst off the line to be useful in passing game), Evans shuttle was light years better at 4.4 vs Lewis's 4.84 but their 3 cones are nearly identical...Lewis explosion testing (vert and broad) is where he has Evans. I see the comp though or the thought and each are similar in that they are athletic enough and have sure hands to be an absolute threat in the passing game if a team doesn't account for it.

 

[OldSchool101]

We’re actually turning into the 49ers I don’t know if anyone has noticed. lol

That’s not meant as a slight either. We’re gearing up to out physical our opponent. We need that to win our Division imo. Possibly our conference. We’ll need a iDL and better blocking past Tucker at TE

 

[gopkrs]

I saw the D tackle from Oregon mocked to us. His write up sounds very good

 

[OldSchool101]

I saw the D tackle from Oregon mocked to us. His write up sounds very good

I’m assuming that’s Harmon. Although Burch is another guy? Burch is rising into that 2nd Round discussion and more DE and I between our 2nd and 3rd round placing.
Oregon has several really dynamic players entering the draft that fit a need in GB that might cross our pathway. Mr Girthy Caldwell and even Tez at WR are a few more. Great story about Tez he was raised by Bo Nix’s Dad. While not legally, he’s Bo Nix’s step brother if you will. Totally a Packer type overcoming some serious adversity as a young Teenager.

 

[tynimiller]

I saw the D tackle from Oregon mocked to us. His write up sounds very good

Harmon I assume is who you speak to, yes Harmon in many ways is a more refined Walker. He could offer some 1tech but is a diverse offering at DL who can make pressure and play the run well. If Harmon's name is called we can smile, cuz we got a good one IMO

 

[OldSchool101]

Harmon I assume is who you speak to, yes Harmon in many ways is a more refined Walker. He could offer some 1tech but is a diverse offering at DL who can make pressure and play the run well. If Harmon's name is called we can smile, cuz we got a good one IMO

He’s also floating right around our pick there don’t you think?
Seems like 2/3 time he’s drafted later 20’s and 1/3 just before our selection.

 

[tynimiller]

He’s also floating right around our pick there don’t you think?
Seems like 2/3 time he’s drafted later 20’s and 1/3 just before our selection.

Yeah Harmon is likely to go somewhere between 20-35 IMO.

 

[OldSchool101]

Yeah Harmon is likely to go somewhere between 20-35 IMO.

Just off the cuff, it Seems like to me there’s not much difference between a low 20’s to higher 20’s type selection. Now obviously that might not be the case as often there is that player or two that slide out of the Teens into a later 20’s but this draft seems like it’s got very good value all the way well into later RD2 at positions like OL, WR, DT, EDGE all positions of focus for us. Similar to that safer draft selection like Edgerrin Cooper types at their respective positions. Which is why I keep saying trade back and maybe using our 3rd or 4th to flip into RD2 for a later Day1 and pair of 2nd Rounders might be prudent. Similar concept to your Trey trades.

The question will be do we want to get an upgrade over TJ? Which will likely include a RD1-RD2 DT. Or should we be patient and go DT more in that RD3-4 area where there’s still more than adequate prospects coming across our table naturally. I don’t think we need to force our hand at DT I think one falls right into our lap inside 3 selections. At CB or WR or Edge it seems they disappear from the board a little faster. Maybe that just in interactive Mocks or maybe that’s some truth based on teams positional needs in 2025 idk. I just know DT seems to get overlooked in RD2-3 and high graded players are left.

 

[tynimiller]

Just off the cuff, it Seems like to me there’s not much difference between a low 20’s to higher 20’s type selection. Now obviously that might not be the case as often there is that player or two that slide out of the Teens into a later 20’s but this draft seems like it’s got very good value all the way well into later RD2 at positions like OL, WR, DT, EDGE all positions of focus for us. Similar to that safer draft selection like Edgerrin Cooper types at their respective positions. Which is why I keep saying trade back and maybe using our 3rd or 4th to flip into RD2 for a later Day1 and pair of 2nd Rounders might be prudent.

I think the issue this year perhaps more than most years is finding a trade partner...and potentially if you do, you may have to take less compared to some other years. To me unless Jaxson Dart is high enough on a teams' board for folks really not wanting to miss out on the third QB off the board....it could be slim pickens for a team...I'm desperately hoping one of the top two RB is there still or perhaps one of the top three WRs....those could score us better return from a team looking for those positions.

 

[OldSchool101]

I think the issue this year perhaps more than most years is finding a trade partner...and potentially if you do, you may have to take less compared to some other years. To me unless Jaxson Dart is high enough on a teams' board for folks really not wanting to miss out on the third QB off the board....it could be slim pickens for a team...I'm desperately hoping one of the top two RB is there still or perhaps one of the top three WRs....those could score us better return from a team looking for those positions.

You mean doing a player for draft collateral trade?

 

[tynimiller]

You mean doing a player for draft collateral trade?

Nope just speaking to how the draft I think could fall to actually increase the amount of folks wanting to trade up = better return for us.

 

[gopkrs]

I think the issue this year perhaps more than most years is finding a trade partner...and potentially if you do, you may have to take less compared to some other years. To me unless Jaxson Dart is high enough on a teams' board for folks really not wanting to miss out on the third QB off the board....it could be slim pickens for a team...I'm desperately hoping one of the top two RB is there still or perhaps one of the top three WRs....those could score us better return from a team looking for those positions.

OTOH if the running backs and QB go before our pick; we'll have a couple of other picks to choose from. I don't necessarily agree we can get the same quality by trading down this year.

 

[tynimiller]

OTOH if the running backs and QB go before our pick; we'll have a couple of other picks to choose from. I don't necessarily agree we can get the same quality by trading down this year.

Oh the avenue is there and value too but very dependent on position. If it falls somewhat how I envision or as the consensus envisions DL there will be value, edge there will be value and maybe (much more dependent) at WR. OL to me has a clear tier drop likely, as does CB most likely (seems quite unpredictable tho).

I agree I want one of either extreme

Option A : both RBs go before us, Dart for sure and maybe even a shocking fourth QB, a run on three or four WRs and both TEs….this is likely dragging some serious edges and defensive lineman and even starting OTs to us.

Option B : none of that happens or very little and a team with those needs is salavating at those positions and a trade back makes immense sense.

 

[gopkrs]

Oh the avenue is there and value too but very dependent on position. If it falls somewhat how I envision or as the consensus envisions DL there will be value, edge there will be value and maybe (much more dependent) at WR. OL to me has a clear tier drop likely, as does CB most likely (seems quite unpredictable tho).

I agree I want one of either extreme

Option A : both RBs go before us, Dart for sure and maybe even a shocking fourth QB, a run on three or four WRs and both TEs….this is likely dragging some serious edges and defensive lineman and even starting OTs to us.

Option B : none of that happens or very little and a team with those needs is salavating at those positions and a trade back makes immense sense.

I guess I'm saying if even one of those seious edges or D lineman or starting tackle is there; we should take him. Maybe even a receiver.

 

[tynimiller]

Had some believe getting the Bengals second is too much back, and honestly I'd settle for their third and if we wanted to stay in the same position that third could be used on a Tre Harris, Savion Williams or perhaps what many would see as a reach on Thornton out of TN.

 

[Thirteen Below]

we leave the draft with just 5 picks in the 2026 draft but I feel the team just got crazy better now, but especially in 2026 potentially.

At least it's likely we'll get a comp pick for Josh, and Gute can always trade back once or twice to pick up some capital. But yeah, it's better to start out with 7 or 8 from the get-go than 5 or 6, and have to wheel and deal for more.

I'm desperately hoping one of the top two RB is there still or perhaps one of the top three WRs....those could score us better return from a team looking for those positions.

I've been secretly hoping a couple of the WRs would drop, and someone in the bottom of the round feels they just have to have one.

Also, I've read some speculation that the Bengals may draft Shemar Stewart at #17, freeing them up to trade Hendrickson for another 1st rounder - which might give us an opportunity to trade #23 for Trey. Both the draftwatchers that I read seemed to feel that he could be had straight-up for a 1st, which I'm not so sure of. But again, I'm no expert by any means.

 

[tynimiller]

At least it's likely we'll get a comp pick for Josh, and Gute can always trade back once or twice to pick up some capital. But yeah, it's better to start out with 7 or 8 from the get-go than 5 or 6, and have to wheel and deal for more.


I've been secretly hoping a couple of the WRs would drop, and someone in the bottom of the round feels they just have to have one.

Also, I've read some speculation that the Bengals may draft Shemar Stewart at #17, freeing them up to trade Hendrickson for another 1st rounder - which might give us an opportunity to trade #23 for Trey. Both the draftwatchers that I read seemed to feel that he could be had straight-up for a 1st, which I'm not so sure of. But again, I'm no expert by any means.

FTR Josh ain’t getting us anything since we signed Banks and Hobbs. Myers and Slaton won’t get anything.