Gruden's Raiders HC Contract

[PackerDNA]

10 years, $100M.
Now that's lunacy, folks.

 

[shockerx]

and moving to Las Vegas!

 

[PackAttack12]

10 years, $100M.
Now that's lunacy, folks.

Not for Jon Gruden.

 

[LambeauLombardi]

I like him, but jfc that's stupid.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Alabama pays Saben over $11M/year and they are a non profit institution. LOL

 

[AmishMafia]

Damn! That Vegas market must be unbelievably lucrative.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Just sets the new bar for paying coaches is all. McCarthy is going to want $12M/year if he wins the SB next year.

For a sport/team that is willing to pay a single player (Carr).....$25M/year that doesn't seem like "that much" for a guy supposedly responsible for a business valued at over $2.1 Billion.

 

[Mondio]

It's their money I guess. I liked Gruden, though I personally think they're paying a crap load of money for what amounts to a crap load of hype. There's a decent coach in there, but there's a lot more hype.

 

[weeds]

I'm not sold on Chuckie. I'd be more curious as to what becomes of McKenzie. Chuckie will want roster control

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

It's their money I guess. I liked Gruden, though I personally think they're paying a crap load of money for what amounts to a crap load of hype. There's a decent coach in there, but there's a lot more hype.

Hype sells tickets and merchandise, especially when you are moving to Vegas!

 

[Mondio]

Hype sells tickets and merchandise, especially when you are moving to Vegas!

but it only lasts so long. But I don't think this owner has a clue to what he's doing. I don't think they'll have many hardcore fans left after a while and any new ones they pick up will flutter away at the next squirrel that crosses their path.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Hope this is on the first Raider Home Game Program Cover

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[Jed12]

Didn’t they fire this guy once? Let’s pay him 100 million when he returns because nothing says loyalty like a truck load of cash!

 

[weeds]

Well it sure would get my attention.

 

[Packer Fan in SD]

Hype sells tickets and merchandise, especially when you are moving to Vegas!

but it only lasts so long. But I don't think this owner has a clue to what he's doing. I don't think they'll have many hardcore fans left after a while and any new ones they pick up will flutter away at the next squirrel that crosses their path.

They will have very expensive luxury boxes to sell. I also think this will actually keep both hardcore and casual fans involved, especially important since they are moving the team.

 

[Packer Fan in SD]

I'm not sold on Chuckie. I'd be more curious as to what becomes of McKenzie. Chuckie will want roster control

They worked together for a couple of years in Green Bay, maybe they built a bit of a relationship.

 

[GoPackGo1985]

Crazy. Both the $10 million a years and the 10 year contract. If I looked right only 5 coaches have been at same job 10 or more straight years. Belichick, Harbaugh, Lewis, McCarthy and Tomlin. Payton would have been on list if he wasn’t suspended for 2012 season

 

[McKnowledge]

Not for Jon Gruden.

Not mad @ Jon Gruden...not at all. He created a market for himself. Teased all the teams over the years, saw an opening, and exploited it. Not my place to comment on whether or not he deserves it. However, the whole situation is organizational synergy. The Raiders are set up quite nicely for the next decade, whether Gruden finishes the contract or not.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Don't forget about what happened back in 2002 when Tampa Bay Traded with the Raiders to get Gruden as their coach.

The trade included Tampa Bay's 2002 and 2003 first-round draft picks, 2002 and 2004 second-round draft picks, and $8 million in cash

 

[rodell330]

Just sets the new bar for paying coaches is all. McCarthy is going to want $12M/year if he wins the SB next year.

For a sport/team that is willing to pay a single player (Carr).....$25M/year that doesn't seem like "that much" for a guy supposedly responsible for a business valued at over $2.1 Billion.

MM just isn’t the personality or character Gruden is tho. Gruden just has this way about him that makes him must see t.v. Not to mention the fact that If you listen to the guy he sounds like he can write a book on football terminology based off x’s and o’s. MM just comes across as smug and overly bothered all the time. He’s boring . Outside of the one SB they really have nothing in common. I definitely feel like Gruden is the better coach.

 

[rodell330]

Didn’t they fire this guy once? Let’s pay him 100 million when he returns because nothing says loyalty like a truck load of cash!

Definitely wasn’t fired from Oakland..Tampa Bay made them an offer they couldn’t refuse for Grudens services..worked out pretty well for both sides actually as they both went to the SB the next yr.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

MM just isn’t the personality or character Gruden is tho. Gruden just has this way about him that makes him must see t.v. Not to mention the fact that If you listen to the guy he sounds like he can write a book on football terminology based off x’s and o’s. MM just comes across as smug and overly bothered all the time. He’s boring . Outside of the one SB they really have nothing in common. I definitely feel like Gruden is the better coach.

I know that there is more to judging a coach then wins and losses, but when you look at Gruden VS McCarthy...

Gruden:

Regular season: 95-81
Post season: 5-4

McCarthy:

Regular season: 121-70-1
Post Season: 10-8

 

[PackAttack12]

I know that there is more to judging a coach then wins and losses, but when you look at Gruden VS McCarthy...

Gruden:

Regular season: 95-81
Post season: 5-4

McCarthy:

Regular season: 121-70-1
Post Season: 10-8

Fair to point out the obvious difference in starting QBs each guy has had to work with though.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Fair to point out the obvious difference in starting QBs each guy has had to work with though.

Totally fair. Like I said, coaching records aren't the only determining factor in rating the job that coaches do. Also remember McCarthy, just like Gruden with Tampa Bay, inherited quite a mess from Sherman when he was hired.

 

[Zartan]

I guess the Raiders already have a gambling problem before ever moving to Vegas...