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Happy for you Nessie. That match got brutal.
Thanks Croak. My biggest wish is a carefree season without being afraid to be relegated. Another little step forward. The next home game against Hannover is a big chance to establish ourselves in the middle of the table. But now I'm just enjoying a perfect start into the weekend. :)
 

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Thanks Croak. My biggest wish is a carefree season without being afraid to be relegated. Another little step forward. The next home game against Hannover is a big chance to establish ourselves in the middle of the table. But now I'm just enjoying a perfect start into the weekend. :)

AND when Cologne loses tomorrow, your team will be ahead of Bundesbiers' boys. :D
 

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Cologne has a decent strategy. Play physical on Müller and Lewandowski. Force the others to make plays. And keep your shape on defense. But the fast counter isn't really working.
 

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Bundesbiers; your boys played a fine game. They have nothing for which to be ashamed. :tup: Bayern should have played that quick against Arsenal. :mad: I think the loss to Arsenal played against Koeln in that Bayern were stinging and wanted to make up for it. They were quick today. Robben looked almost cumbersome compared to the other guys on the field.
 

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Bundesbiers; your boys played a fine game. They have nothing for which to be ashamed. :tup: Bayern should have played that quick against Arsenal. :mad: I think the loss to Arsenal played against Koeln in that Bayern were stinging and wanted to make up for it. They were quick today. Robben looked almost cumbersome compared to the other guys on the field.
Well, after Bayern having played 10 games this season I can note that our 0-5 loss in the first game wasn't that bad compared to other teams performance against them.
Cologne 0-4, Doofmund 1-5, Volkswagen 1-5, Leverkusen 0-3, that's impressive and shows that there is no team that can compete with Bayern at the moment. Is this boring ? For sure, but that wont change soon.
Colognes keeper Timo Horn was interviewed after the game and he did not lose a word about trying to beat them. No, he said they came there to learn from the best. To me the wrong approach but propably a realistic view.
 

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Well, after Bayern having played 10 games this season I can note that our 0-5 loss in the first game wasn't that bad compared to other teams performance against them.
Cologne 0-4, Doofmund 1-5, Volkswagen 1-5, Leverkusen 0-3, that's impressive and shows that there is no team that can compete with Bayern at the moment. Is this boring ? For sure, but that wont change soon.
Colognes keeper Timo Horn was interviewed after the game and he did not lose a word about trying to beat them. No, he said they came there to learn from the best. To me the wrong approach but propably a realistic view.

It's good for the Bundesliga that Bayern does well. Success breeds imitation. When more teams start trying to do what Bayern does, the whole league will become competitive. I still think BVB can challenge. The race for second place is also exciting in and of itself.
 

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Nice to have Robben back!

This DFB match against Wolfsburg tomorrow should be very entertaining
 

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It's good for the Bundesliga that Bayern does well. Success breeds imitation. When more teams start trying to do what Bayern does, the whole league will become competitive. I still think BVB can challenge. The race for second place is also exciting in and of itself.


If you stopped buying all the best players the league could be better. Success for one does not breed money for the other. Sorry, fact of life.
 

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If you stopped buying all the best players the league could be better. Success for one does not breed money for the other. Sorry, fact of life.

Saying it is a fact does not make it a fact.

On the contrary, I believe the success of teams like Bayern, Barca, Arsenal, etc. is what brings interest and viewers to leagues, which ups the cash coming in, which ups teams, and we circle back around. That's a very simplistic description of course.

It's all about publicity. Bayern's demolition of BVB for example, brought a lot of attention to the bundesliga. Was it an exciting match? Only for Bayern. Was it competitive? In this case, no. BUT it garnered far more publicity than a 2-1 win for Darmstadt over Werder, which was probably more exciting. Publicity brings viewers brings money.

Now, that's simply a formula for league expansion. It's not a formula for quality games, in the short term. But if they formula works, and money pours in, all teams benefit. When all teams benefit competitiveness improves. Just take a look at the premier league.
 

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If you stopped buying all the best players the league could be better. Success for one does not breed money for the other. Sorry, fact of life.

Business Management and marketting are two areas that other teams could learn to emulate from Bayern. I've seen so many mismanaged teams in the Bundesliga it isn't even funny. If your offices can recruit good financing then you have a better shot at buying other players. But if you'll notice. A lot of this year's Bayern team came from outside of the Bundesliga.
 

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Saying it is a fact does not make it a fact.

On the contrary, I believe the success of teams like Bayern, Barca, Arsenal, etc. is what brings interest and viewers to leagues, which ups the cash coming in, which ups teams, and we circle back around. That's a very simplistic description of course.

It's all about publicity. Bayern's demolition of BVB for example, brought a lot of attention to the bundesliga. Was it an exciting match? Only for Bayern. Was it competitive? In this case, no. BUT it garnered far more publicity than a 2-1 win for Darmstadt over Werder, which was probably more exciting. Publicity brings viewers brings money.

Now, that's simply a formula for league expansion. It's not a formula for quality games, in the short term. But if they formula works, and money pours in, all teams benefit. When all teams benefit competitiveness improves. Just take a look at the premier league.


Bayern has been playing Dortmund in exciting matches for yearsssssssssssssssssssss. Yet, not a dime to add to any of the other teams in the Bundesliga.

And when Bayern can pay Pizzarro for the money they did, and other teams cannot... that's the problem. It's not about viewership, because the viewership has been there for the Bundesliga for many years. The Bundesliga has even better turnouts to games than the EPL, and the EPL has way more money than the Bundesliga.
 

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So why in the world is Schurrle only a final third of the game substitute for Wolfsburg? Is he hurt? One would think that after selling DeBruyne to England, Wolfsburg would start a world class player like Shurrle.
 

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Several upsets today :eek:

1860 Munich beating Mainz .... Erzgebirge beating Eintracht Frankfurt .... Unterhaching taking down RB Leipzig

Fun stuff
 

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