Fußball-Bundesliga

[mhnessie]

Dang... hoped 4th division Würzburg would continue. Some of my friends from Bamberg went to the game. Only a 45 minute train ride. Wurzburg is a nice city. You can drink wine on the bridge with the locals... pretty cool.

And the manager of Würzburg is Bernd Hollerbach, a former HSV legend. (unfortunately he also played for St.Pipi)

 

[Bundesbiers]

Hehe......never thought about it until you mentioned it. Yes, I can imagine that its hard to pronounce. Quite similar - Aua ! Do you know what it means ? Thats the German version for "Ouch" ! Aua Aue.....!

It is??? That's funny.

 

[Bundesbiers]

And the manager of Würzburg is Bernd Hollerbach, a former HSV legend. (unfortunately he also played for St.Pipi)

I like, all except for the Pipi part.

 

[Bundesbiers]

JA JA JA!!! FC Koeln coming to Florida in January with Leverkusen and 2 Brazilian clubs. I'm there!

http://bundesligafanatic.com/2015-florida-cup-bringing-bundesliga-to-the-usa-in-january/

 

[Croak]

Ausgezeichnet!

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

Ausgezeichnet!

You can say that again !!!

 

[PackerFan71]

I dont see any reason for Dortmunds existance other than just as a feeder club for you know who........
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...lation-19-5m-bitter-rivals-Bayern-Munich.html

 

[mhnessie]

You can say that again !!!

Grossartig ! Btw - look who Mainz is playing today, hope the Karnevalsverein kicks their butts !
I'm a little Mainz fan today.

 

[mhnessie]

I dont see any reason for Dortmunds existance other than just as a feeder club for you know who........
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...lation-19-5m-bitter-rivals-Bayern-Munich.html

Well, it's the same old story since decades. Professional football players go where the money is and thats Bayern. It's as simple as that. And Reuss is one of the best German players and if he doesnt want to stay they cant do anything against it.

 

[PackerFan71]

Well, it's the same old story since decades. Professional football players go where the money is and thats Bayern. It's as simple as that. And Reuss is one of the best German players and if he doesnt want to stay they cant do anything against it.

Been going on since time and memorial, but non the less i hate it when a bigger predator club constantly cherrie picks the opposition just because it can. The quality of the league will go down because of that. Would be better if they developed their own instead. Aye dream on.

 

[mhnessie]

Can you believe it ? Mainz lost against Bremen
But we won against Leverkusen and this d****bag Calhanoglu. Thats what counts today.
Btw - how many chances does Bayern need to score against Doofmund. Thats ridiculous.

 

[Croak]

Wow. What a game. The Predators come out on top!

 

[Croak]

Been going on since time and memorial, but non the less i hate it when a bigger predator club constantly cherrie picks the opposition just because it can. The quality of the league will go down because of that. Would be better if they developed their own instead. Aye dream on.

Ok, so they developed Alaba, Schweinsteiger, Lahm, Mueller, and Badstuber. That makes up one half of the first team. Are they allowed to have any players from outside the club.?Also, how did they gain their money. Was it by shrewd management and good development? I don't get the problem unless we want to be socialist. How many current Chelsea first team players were developed by Chelsea?

 

[PackerFan71]

Ok, so they developed Alaba, Schweinsteiger, Lahm, Mueller, and Badstuber. That makes up one half of the first team. Are they allowed to have any players from outside the club.?Also, how did they gain their money. Was it by shrewd management and good development? I don't get the problem unless we want to be socialist. How many current Chelsea first team players were developed by Chelsea?

Depends on what you mean by developed? buying a player and improving him thats developing him. Chelsea have lots of players like that that are farmed out as Chelsea players to other clubs and return and are competing for first team places Courtois and Zouma are two that come to mind Chelsea improved Cahill, Maitic, Willian, Shurrle even Drogba who was not the finished article by any means when he arrived. My main point was Bayern directy taking a decent number of players from a main rival that being Dortmund. To my knowledge Chelsea have not had this approach with another premier team.

 

[Croak]

Depends on what you mean by developed? buying a player and improving him thats developing him. Chelsea have lots of players like that that are farmed out as Chelsea players to other clubs and return and are competing for first team places Courtois and Zouma are two that come to mind Chelsea improved Cahill, Maitic and Drogba who was not the finished article by any meanswhen he arrived. My main point was Bayern directy taking a decent number players from a main rival that being Dortmund. To my knowledge Chelsea have not had this approach with another premier team.

By developed, I meant ones who came up through the system. Those I listed for Bayern were not "improved" they came through Bayern's system of development. I used Chelsea for two reasons; A. I know you like Chelsea, and B. I know few of their starters who came up through their system. Players want to play for a winner. They also want the money. So if a player can play for a winner and the money, where's the problem. Are we saying Chelsea doesn't have players on their team because of the winning and the money. Forgive me, but it's a little like the pot calling the kettle black.

 

[PackerFan71]

By developed, I meant ones who came up through the system. Those I listed for Bayern were not "improved" they came through Bayern's system of development. I used Chelsea for two reasons; A. I know you like Chelsea, and B. I know few of their starters who came up through their system. Players want to play for a winner. They also want the money. So if a player can play for a winner and the money, where's the problem. Are we saying Chelsea doesn't have players on their team because of the winning and the money. Forgive me, but it's a little like the pot calling the kettle black.

As i said : My main point was Bayern directy taking a decent number of players from a main rival that being Dortmund. To my knowledge Chelsea have not had this approach with another premier team.

 

[Croak]

As i said : My main point was Bayern directy taking a decent number of players from a main rival that being Dortmund. To my knowledge Chelsea have not had this approach with another premier team.

2? Is that a decent number?

 

[Croak]

What if Bayern's manager had connections with an agent who could sign him 7 to 12 international stars because he was Bayern's manager's agent? Hmmm? Would that be a better model?

 

[PackerFan71]

5 is better

 

[PackerFan71]

What if Bayern's manager had connections with an agent who could sign him 7 to 12 international stars because he was Bayern's manager's agent? Hmmm? Would that be a better model?

A more even competitive playingfield for all concerned would be a better model.

 

[Croak]

A more even competitive playingfield for all concerned would be a better model.

I do agree there. But the question is; How does one achieve an even playing field when some teams have excellent front office personal and some teams have front office personell who can't tell their "pass from a pole in the ground"? And Pep has repeatedly stated he has enough strikers he isn't interested in Reus. However, Man U, Arsenal and Chelsea are, from what I've read.

My next question is; Why do the players want out of Dortmund so bad? You don't see Schweinsteiger, Lahm, Mueller rushing for the exit at Bayern. I know they say Juergen Klopp is a good guy, but I wonder if the team really likes playing under him. Why would the front office allow Lewandowski to go unsigned? If you ask me these are strange questions that need to be asked about Dortmunds front office. Why all the easy release clauses too? Strange, strange, strange.

 

[PackerFan71]

I do agree there. But the question is; How does one achieve an even playing field when some teams have excellent front office personal and some teams have front office personell who can't tell their "pass from a pole in the ground"? And Pep has repeatedly stated he has enough strikers he isn't interested in Reus. However, Man U, Arsenal and Chelsea are, from what I've read.

My next question is; Why do the players want out of Dortmund so bad? You don't see Schweinsteiger, Lahm, Mueller rushing for the exit at Bayern. I know they say Juergen Klopp is a good guy, but I wonder if the team really likes playing under him. Why would the front office allow Lewandowski to go unsigned? If you ask me these are strange questions that need to be asked about Dortmunds front office. Why all the easy release clauses too? Strange, strange, strange.

Sadly its dog eat dog some clubs are too stupid with bad owners etc its Crapowla but it does not make it right.

Human nature its always greener elsewhere espcially when your wages go through the roof, Hummels however for now is the exception hes staying although Manure and **** are both after him he will leave on a free in a few years no doubt but at least hes staying so fairplay to him. However Dortmund are just really a better run version of Aston Villa and a good player there nearly always ended up going to Manure the bigger glamour team. Same everywhere. Dortmunds front office need their heads examined for letting Lewandowski away on a free.

 

[Croak]

How about a FIFA wide salary cap? Then if you want a Guardiola and Martinez or a Mourinho and Costa, you'll have to weigh who else you are willing to sacrifice, not to mention a Ronaldo.

 

[PackerFan71]

How about a FIFA wide salary cap? Then if you want a Guardiola and Martinez or a Mourinho and Costa, you'll have to weigh who else you are willing to sacrifice, not to mention a Ronaldo.

That would be a daisycutter it would change everything, clubs all over europe would have to restructure. the English Premiership would lose its appeal to all the big names. I'm not saying its a bad idea but FIFA i doubt would ever have the guts to do it, its all about the big money im afraid and it would rock the boat too much for them.

However what is ironic about the NFL its structured on an almost Socialist model in comparison to the cut throat manner of European Soccer, what with salary caps and giving the poorest teams the better draft choices etc.

 

[Bundesbiers]

How about a FIFA wide salary cap? Then if you want a Guardiola and Martinez or a Mourinho and Costa, you'll have to weigh who else you are willing to sacrifice, not to mention a Ronaldo.

That would be great because with Real Madrid's debt, they would lose about 75% of their players.