Yeah it is important to remember that he played one (generously) good season at Texas. Golden Seemed like the BPA and a guy who filled a need at #23. Higgins looks really good but he was too risky as a first round pick. It will be interesting to see where he ends up getting drafted. Probably round 2 or early 3.
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Wasn't sure if we had a thread going for remaining prospects or not, so...figured this was an okay place. Many are still "first round prospects" anyways.
So, how about a look at some guys who were frequently mocked in the first round who made it into the second round (at least). Wonder if any of them will be realistic targets for us?
In parentheses you have their consensus big board ranking
Will Johnson, CB, Michigan (13)
Mike Green, EDGE, Marshall (17)
Nick Emmanwori, S, SC (29)
Donovan Ezeiruaku, EDGE, BC (30)
Trey Amos, CB, Ole Miss (38)
Shavon Revel, CB, ECU (42)
Looking beyond that, here are some of the guys we had in for a Top-30 visit who are still available, along with their big board ranking, too.
Most of them at this point will likely be day three or beyond, but maybe a couple of day two prospects there.
Trey Amos, CB, Ole Miss (38)
Shavon Revel, CB, ECU (42)
TJ Sanders, DL/DT, SC (56)
Jordan Burch, EDGE, Oregon (71)
Anthony Belton, OT, NC State (95)
Tai Felton, WR, Maryland (126)
Isaiah Bond, WR, Texas (134)
Elijah Roberts, EDGE, SMU (141)
Jason Marshall, CB, Florida (227)
Esa Pole, OT, Washington State (258)
John Williams, OT, Cincinnati (289)
Jacob Bayer, OC, Arkansas State (337)
Dalton Cooper, OT, Oklahoma State (342)
Micah Robinson, CB, Tulane (NR)
So, how about a look at some guys who were frequently mocked in the first round who made it into the second round (at least). Wonder if any of them will be realistic targets for us?
In parentheses you have their consensus big board ranking
Will Johnson, CB, Michigan (13)
Mike Green, EDGE, Marshall (17)
Nick Emmanwori, S, SC (29)
Donovan Ezeiruaku, EDGE, BC (30)
Trey Amos, CB, Ole Miss (38)
Shavon Revel, CB, ECU (42)
Looking beyond that, here are some of the guys we had in for a Top-30 visit who are still available, along with their big board ranking, too.
Most of them at this point will likely be day three or beyond, but maybe a couple of day two prospects there.
Trey Amos, CB, Ole Miss (38)
Shavon Revel, CB, ECU (42)
TJ Sanders, DL/DT, SC (56)
Jordan Burch, EDGE, Oregon (71)
Anthony Belton, OT, NC State (95)
Tai Felton, WR, Maryland (126)
Isaiah Bond, WR, Texas (134)
Elijah Roberts, EDGE, SMU (141)
Jason Marshall, CB, Florida (227)
Esa Pole, OT, Washington State (258)
John Williams, OT, Cincinnati (289)
Jacob Bayer, OC, Arkansas State (337)
Dalton Cooper, OT, Oklahoma State (342)
Micah Robinson, CB, Tulane (NR)
Thanks Magooch. Interesting stuff. I didn't realize that the group of six you list represents guys yet to be drafted. I like Johnson and Green and thought they would be off the board by now. More surprises await us I suppose.
The only drama yesterday was the Jags' expensive trade-up to get Hunter, and Dallas drafting a guy at #12 who was mocked to them at least once in round 2.
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Some thoughts on round 1 around the league:
-The Jaguars move was, imo, one of the dumbest things I have ever seen a team do in the draft. The ONLY way that the trade works out is if Hunter becomes a pro bowl caliber, full time player on both sides of the ball. I don't see that happening.
-I really like Colston Loveland as a prospect, but taking a TE at #10 is STOOOOOPID and I'm glad that the Bears did that.
-I liked the Falcons approach to double down on pass rushers, but I don't like either prospect and I hate that they gave up a future 1st rounder to get it done. This is especially true because there are still so many talented edge players on the board-- they could have waited or traded far less to move up today and still get a great second rusher.
-I actually like the pick of Hampton to the Chargers. Jeanty has overshadowed him, but he is close to a blue chip prospect. They had other pressing needs, but I love it when a team knows who they are and leans into that identity.
-The Vikings taking Jackson is a pretty low-impact move. From what I read about him prior to the draft, most OL aficionados were not in love.
-Tyleik Williams is a solid pick, but I am happy that the Lions didn't land a great pass rusher-- that would be way more dangerous.
-The Jaguars move was, imo, one of the dumbest things I have ever seen a team do in the draft. The ONLY way that the trade works out is if Hunter becomes a pro bowl caliber, full time player on both sides of the ball. I don't see that happening.
-I really like Colston Loveland as a prospect, but taking a TE at #10 is STOOOOOPID and I'm glad that the Bears did that.
-I liked the Falcons approach to double down on pass rushers, but I don't like either prospect and I hate that they gave up a future 1st rounder to get it done. This is especially true because there are still so many talented edge players on the board-- they could have waited or traded far less to move up today and still get a great second rusher.
-I actually like the pick of Hampton to the Chargers. Jeanty has overshadowed him, but he is close to a blue chip prospect. They had other pressing needs, but I love it when a team knows who they are and leans into that identity.
-The Vikings taking Jackson is a pretty low-impact move. From what I read about him prior to the draft, most OL aficionados were not in love.
-Tyleik Williams is a solid pick, but I am happy that the Lions didn't land a great pass rusher-- that would be way more dangerous.
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I don't care if he ever is a great blocker. Sure, he can put his body in the way when he has to but I don't believe that blocking is why he'll be good for us or that it is necessary. I honestly think that LaFleur has put too much emphasis on receivers blocking. If he is an excellent receiver; that is enough for me to have him on the field. I guess MVS is a good example.
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Not to mention they already I think had the fewest picks in this draft....and they just depleted it further...morons.
BUT once we get to their two picks at #101 and #118 I bet they might be willing to deal a little better than normal given they have literally those two picks and 218....and that is IT.
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So sad. 
Also read that he used his N.I.L. $ to buy her a handicap accessible van to get around prior to being hospitalized. Sounds like a really good guy with his priorities in line.
Also read that he used his N.I.L. $ to buy her a handicap accessible van to get around prior to being hospitalized. Sounds like a really good guy with his priorities in line.Agreed. Golden was drafted for his speed and his hands. Sticking with the MVS example, MVS was a good blocker with questionable hands. Golden will develop blocking skills in the NFL, or he won't. For an otherwise talented WR, I certainly wouldn't pass on him because he didn't block much in college.
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I don't recall Greg Jennings or Jordy Nelson being particularly great blockers. Still, they managed to have pretty solid NFL careers.
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Jordy absolutely was a willing blocker, for a WR he was solid
I don't remember Jennings and Nelson for their blocking skills. They caught a lot of passes, put up a lot of yards, and scored a lot of TDs.
I think Lazard was a decent blocker. He also never rose above a WR3 on the roster.
Blocking skill for a WR is not a qualifying or disqualifying factor. We'll know in three years, maybe less, what kind of WR Golden will be. I'm not gonna hold it against him at this point because he maybe didn't block well in college.
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personally my opinion is that it’s kind of a “cherry on top” trait. Certainly nice to have, and in some situations it is more important and or valued than others, BUT….
If you are an elite route runner, pass catcher, playmaker, etc… odds are that you won’t lose a job due to being a mediocre blocker
And if you can’t run routes, have brick hands, and are an average athlete… you probably won’t make a roster just for being a great blocker.
Of course if you have two players who are equal in every other way then sure, prioritize the better blocker. But that’s rarely the case. I guess my point is that IMO if Golden “makes it” or not, his blocking at WR isn’t going to be the decisive factor
If you are an elite route runner, pass catcher, playmaker, etc… odds are that you won’t lose a job due to being a mediocre blocker
And if you can’t run routes, have brick hands, and are an average athlete… you probably won’t make a roster just for being a great blocker.
Of course if you have two players who are equal in every other way then sure, prioritize the better blocker. But that’s rarely the case. I guess my point is that IMO if Golden “makes it” or not, his blocking at WR isn’t going to be the decisive factor
That's a wrap! Well put Magooch.
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You hope more often than not that a wideout does not get called for holding or an " illegal " block. Or injured trying to block. Receivers initially can test their blocking ability on special teams.
All good points. The receiver does need to be careful to not throw a pick at a defender. It doesn't happen a lot, but it can ruin a 3rd down attempt. The point being there's more to blocking that meets the eye.
Ty pointed out that Golden needs to improve his blocking skills at the next level. If that's the biggest rap on him, then Gluten may well have found a winner. Even so, and even for first-round guys, there is a lot to learn, and that includes unglamorous jobs like booking and running decoy routes.
